If anyone else sells merit, I assume a member like Vod or Lauda (or anyone else on DT) will happily red them if they find all accounts involved as negging a throwaway doesn't really do much.

Listen up good mdayonliner.

First of all, you are not the staff, you are not Satoshi or anyone who started this forum.  You're just some guy wasting time on a power trip obsessing about some trivial new rules that joined the forum a few months ago.  I've been here for years involved in crypto, you are in no place to judge me or my intentions.  You really should be focusing on something more important than this with your life.  I don't really have to explain myself to you, but I will anyways to induldge anyone that is listening and might think this is something important, which it's not.

Again, I didn't even want these merits to begin with.  If they never existed and the forum never gave them to me that would've been just fine, I couldn't care less.  Because of this whole thing they're way more trouble that they're worth with everyone bitching and moaning.  "here have some free stuff but you can only use it in a certain way or you're in trouble!"  What joke, you can keep it then.  It was just something free that fell out of the sky like an airdrop that I got rid of, I don't want them and have none left now.  Even if I didn't have a high rank I would still be here discussing crypto and I would be involved in crypto.  This forum is here to discuss ideas and communicate with each other.  All the ranks and merits and blah blah is a bunch of superfluous nonsense, you're getting way too caught up on that.  You don't have these kinds of ranking systems on other communication platforms like telegram for example because they don't matter, the words and messages matter.

Yeah I noticed people using merits, but again I don't care so I didn't pay all that much attention.  I still didn't look into the rules deeply after that because it was a waste of my time.  It's some meaningless self validation junk such as likes on facebook or thumbs up on reddit, who gives a shit.  I did multiple trades because that's how he wanted it done, again I didn't think about it too much.  That's all the explanation that is necessary, nit picking every minute detail is some ocd level of obsession.

I stand by what I said in that PM I sent you, negging me is completely uncalled for.  I don't have any more merit left and I won't be using it again if I do get some more.  From what I see the system is heavily flawed and not worth participating in if it results in things like this that are wasting even more of my time.

I would still be here discussing crypto

This forum is here to discuss ideas

I did multiple trades because that's how he wanted it done, again I didn't think about it too much.

Hi All !!!!
I have very big problem. I do not have only 5 merit to get Member.
I create good topics. Answered the question of participants. But no one sends me a merit

Tell me how i can earn Merit without buying it?

It's called Bitcoin Talk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1116027 Bilipus August 20, 2017
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1115986 Akselrod August 20, 2017

 

My response is...
1. I didn't know anything I was doing was against any rules, I thought your merits were your own and you could do whatever you wanted with them.  If that isn't the case then I have to plead ignorance and I sincerely wasn't aware of it.  I guess I have to look over the merit rules more in depth since everyone seems to be throwing a hissy fit.  I had other concerns at the time when merits were introduced and didn't really read much up on it.

2. I was contacted asking if someone could trade for my merits.  I said sure, why not.  Again I didn't have much interest in them so I got rid of them as my understanding was you're going to lose them at some point anyways.  Use them or lose them.  I've been on other forums with similar point systems where you could trade them without issue.

People are acting like it's some malicious plot, lol.  It's not that serious to me, I didn't honestly give it another thought until one of those guys sent me a message there was a thread about it.  Also OP should've messaged me too if it was such an issue.

Like you mentioned The Pharmacist, there are a lot more serious things going on in the forum that people should be fighting against first.

2. I was contacted asking if someone could trade for my merits.  I said sure, why not.

OP should've messaged me too if it was such an issue

Like you mentioned The Pharmacist, there are a lot more serious things going on in the forum that people should be fighting against first.

This could actually be a veiled way of sending merits to yourself. Given a good post, few would question the use of sMerit upon it.

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However, this would only be to "new" account farmers rather than older ones since they would just as well post on their higher-ranked accounts and rank them up.

Perhaps it's a new wave of accounts being farmed as the max monthly merit cap is reached?

There is mentioned, multiple account and account sales are allowed.
Its mean, no problem if 1person having 2 account?

This could actually be a veiled way of sending merits to yourself. Given a good post, few would question the use of sMerit upon it.

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However, this would only be to "new" account farmers rather than older ones since they would just as well post on their higher-ranked accounts and rank them up.

Perhaps it's a new wave of accounts being farmed as the max monthly merit cap is reached?

But for me, i still don't know. Can we have 2 or more account?

selling or buying merit is not against the rules,there will always be people who try to abuse ANY system in place
the thing is,they cannot just get away with it easily
if their posts are rubbish and they get 5-50 merits for an obviously spam post (or a "special" merit magnet topics as I call them)
the rules also do not prohibit for a D1-D2 trust member to waste their efforts by red tagging
don't know where the 28$ figure is coming from,but that is crazy

Hi guys. Alan here from CryptoBoreas.

Regrettably we don't have that kind of power and when we get a power upgrade in the near future I have to go through our customer waiting list first. I am prioritizing smaller customers first!

Link of profile :  bitcoinpositive

Karena merit adalah sebuah patokan bagi seorang anggota untuk kenaikan pangkat mereka sehingga bagi orang yang tidak sabar dalam berproses mereka akan mengambil jalan pintas . Hal ini membuat persaingan anggota menjadi tidak sehat maka dari itu menurut saya merit tidak efektif dalam menilai seorang anggota karena ketika kita membeli merit meski post kita tidak berkualitas kita tetap mendapat merit maka dari itu sebaiknya merit dihapuskan saja.

Quote from: The Pharmacist on Today at 11:53:20 AM
I tagged the first two of those idiots, who are quite obviously engaged in merit abuse.

- How do you do it? Can someone else like me can tag them as well?

I tagged the first two of those idiots, who are quite obviously engaged in merit abuse.

This constant trend to use salutations  (Sir, Dear, Respected) is also a cultural difference. To you, it maybe normal to show respect to someone in a position of power over you, but as far as netiquette and western work culture is concerned, this is considered sycophancy/ ass-kissing. This is considered the hallmark of an incapable, scheming individual and not of respect. So avoid this like a plague. Instead, address people with a normal Mr./ Miss

you admit to stealing content! you then insult people.. you are not getting your account back - you deserve the ban..

now move on and forget about this easy income that you do not deserve

You confessed to copy past plagiarism. Too late to change your story now. The moderators would not have banned you otherwise. So get it into that thick skull of yours that nobody here is going to help a thief. We're all really happy you got banned.

In reality it will just reinforce older privileges, lead to farming like that, and make bitcointalk less atractive for new users.

Edit: I am in support of merit system to improve the content quality of the forum. Bringing merit on the table is a really very good step by the theymos. The way the spammers were using the forum, for theymos - he had no choice but to do something to make it a better place.

The issues we are seeing with merit are not actually the idea is wrong, it's actually the same spammers/scammers are trying to abuse it finding its holes. It's completely normal for a idea which is new and every idea needs improvisation after implementation. Merit needs improvisation on how the users will use it (application level). People are misusing it because it is directly related to rank. And since it's directly related to rank so I believe some of the twist (if possible) taking in consideration will stop (make a big difference) abusing it.

Exchange of merit doesn't really prove anything, especially if the amount of merits is small.

It would anyway cease once the smerit handed out to accounts during the roll out of the merit system dries up.

Over time, the cycle of merit exchanges from senders to receivers and back will come to the end because they will finally lose all of their sMerits. And after that point, if they can not contribute to the forum, they will hardly earn more merits. Therefore, they won't have more sMerits to exchange each other.

I appreciate your efforts but there is a thread for this stuff: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.160 You can post it there with the same format or just link this thread there. However not much will happen, they are usually not tagged or anything but I will give you some merit for your effort.

I tagged the first two of those idiots, who are quite obviously engaged in merit abuse.

But let's knock 'em down one by one.  Thanks for identifying these guys.

I'm probably unusual in that I completely ignore trust. I don't do any trading, apart from a few domain names, and those tend to be run through an escrow service. I thought trust was about trading, and money exchanges, but it seems to be a lot more here. I'm not sure that I understand it's purpose. It seems to be used as a weapon, more than a trading rating.

I stumbled by accident over a [b]scam account that uses YouTube videos[/b] from different accounts to gain some bounty tokens

OMG!!!
Please I really want to believe that that Expert3 is not Coin Bloq.

I personally follow Coin Bloq channel and he really make sense. He is doing really hard work and great job to deliver his contents and look his channel has now 23K followers! Do you think he has time to do such nonsense things in this forum?

What I suspect is, Expert3 just tried to use one of his video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS2RJUePR5Q) claiming his (Expert3) just to receive some bounty coins. I also doubt Coin Bloq does not have any clue yet that something like this happened with his video.

I do not know about Martins Hacks. Possibly he can be Expert3 or I may be totally wrong. I just checked Martins Hacks hacks has 16K subscribers.

It's too late today in my side. I really need to dig more on this since I still think Coin Bloq is not Expert3. I just need to be 100% sure about it.

PS: If your evidences proves true then you definitely reserve credits for this post.