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3081  Economy / Speculation / Re: I think I am going to have to move the market on: November 17, 2013, 12:22:09 AM
then explain how I would make the market go down with my supposed "gazillion dollars"? Lol.

I'd like to hear you explain how you plan to move the market, per the title of this thread.

By enlightening us with his superior wisdom obviously.

Its not magic all i have to do is convince you that bitcoin is going down and it will go down. 

I think you need to convince a few 100.000 people....
3082  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time for a new poll: Will BTC pass $500 on Gox before year's end? on: November 16, 2013, 10:37:32 PM
We seem to be inching up the ladder for the past few days.
Using a piece of paper on the GOX chart I'd bet on

Day guess:  26-11-2013 (Tuesday)
Time guess: 21:51 Cheesy
3083  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happens when Hedge Fund managers get involved? on: November 16, 2013, 10:24:51 PM
zomg next stop $100m  Grin
3084  Economy / Speculation / Re: this time it's different... on: November 16, 2013, 05:00:22 PM
we're all anticipating a big crash, but maybe the whales dont have as much impact as they did a year or two ago?

How many whales still exist with >100000 BTC ? I bet there aren't many left.
3085  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will You Sell when BTC Hits $1,000? on: November 16, 2013, 01:36:06 PM
If there are 7,000,000,000,000 people and all get in when we mined all coins then we will be sharing 1 BTC with 333 people.
That would mean that if every average joe has $10000 in cash now and we would go full-bitcoin a coin could become $3.3M.
So $100.000 a coin could be possible in the near future.
3086  Economy / Speculation / Re: are we at a new base price? on: November 15, 2013, 12:30:50 PM
I know shit about trading but if a resistance barrier is broken it becomes the new support.
So yes it is the new base unless we get a panic then we go to the previous support.
3087  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1 BTC = 1,000,000 usd on: November 15, 2013, 12:27:54 PM
Do you think BTC will ever cost a millon dollars?

When?

Yes, definitely!

The national debt of the U.S. already exceeds its GDP.  There are only two ways out of this situation -- fiscally responsible spending or hyperinflation and collapse of the dollar.  You've seen the way things are going.  Do you really think the U.S. government is suddenly going to become fiscally responsible?

Lol you made the comment I wanted to make. This holds true for every country btw Smiley.

A better question would be "When can I buy a Bar of gold with one BTC" or "When can I retire (with no loss in income) if I have 1 BTC an average job"
3088  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin hits $151,998 on: November 15, 2013, 08:19:28 AM
I am going to predict the future here. We are going to hit this price in april 2018 Wink
3089  Economy / Speculation / Re: how long till 1mBTC = 1USD? on: November 15, 2013, 08:16:35 AM
Why not work from the bottom up

1000 satoshi
100000 satoshi
A million satoshi
A thousand satoshi
Etc.

Sounds good and sounds like more money and once we need to divide more we add in another bitcoin founding father.
3090  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis never ends on: November 14, 2013, 11:08:01 PM
Guys, there's no "proving" here. If something could be proved, we'd all be rich (then subsequently, very broke).

A better phrasing might be "can you convince me that..."

Well we can probably prove that Bitcoin has always been in an uptrend.
3091  Economy / Speculation / Re: I fear a collapse on: November 14, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
We just saw that in the "Will you sell at $1000?" that 88% would not.  So presumably, if the price even went to $200, LOTS of "Buy and Hold" people would buy like crazy.  (I know I would.)

I'll be in at $250 Wink
3092  Economy / Speculation / Re: I fear a collapse on: November 14, 2013, 09:45:42 PM
Looking at mtgoxlive you can see that a Marketorder of 15000 BTC will lower the price approx $100.
Since accounts up to 150000 BTC exist yes a panic could still be achieved. But bitcoin would still rebound.
I believe that bitcoin is getting stronger by the day and don't fear collapse.
3093  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin crashes when those investing realise 2 things on: November 14, 2013, 09:33:46 AM
From a formal point of view, it shouldn't make a difference, [...]. However, keep in mind that the valuation of any object is determined by the market, and I am not at all sure if the idea of the number of subunits tending towards infinity will not affect the valuation of the base unit.

I am 100% sure. The precision will only change if the smallest unit becomes worth an impractically large amount of money, ie. the smallest unit is too large to make small purchases. This will in no way alter the value of larger sub-units/units.

Edit: Let me also say that I DO live in a country that has removed the penny from circulation and it in no way impacted the value of my money. If the smallest unit of bitcoin becomes impractical, people will welcome the change and it will only increase the value of the system.

Stocks split two for one all the time that dosen't change the stock. As does dividing bitcoins.
If bitcoins weren't divisable then theoretically bitcoin could hit a point where it would be too big to be used as a currency.
Like trying to buy gas at a gas station with a pound of gold bullion for which there is no change.
Divisability is a good thing.
3094  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will You Sell when BTC Hits $1,000? on: November 14, 2013, 09:17:10 AM
I'll never sell my BTCs to any fiat paper. Never!

Land, precious metals? Maybe.

+1
3095  Economy / Speculation / Re: ugh, timing the market isn't worth the trouble on: November 14, 2013, 09:02:43 AM
Depends on how you look at it, but even you made $30 USD extra a day,5 days a week x 48 week, you'll have $7,200 USD and may be more on top of your regular investment and salary from your day job!

As the market is open 24/7, more chance to to make more $$$

Good Luck!!!

Risk/Reward is too low... Greed can become a killer...  Grin
3096  Economy / Economics / Re: I am buying BTC and hold them and even forget about them and in 4 years... on: November 14, 2013, 12:41:36 AM
I am buying BTC and hold them and even forget about them and in 4 or 5 years will look back and see what happened to them.

What do you think about this strategy?

How much do you think each BTC will cost in 5 years?

I will try to buy at least 20 or 40 BTC

Will I be rich in 5 years?

Start buying!!!

You could end up with either 0 or millions depending if bitcoin reaches gold bar price.
3097  Economy / Speculation / Re: $70 gain in 1 day... is this the biggest 1-day gain in $ terms ever? on: November 14, 2013, 12:05:00 AM
3098  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sold earlier at $380.... on: November 13, 2013, 11:57:06 PM
My "sensible" cashing out principles

Once you hit 10x or 100x your initial investment then take the investment out (1-10% of your total). You can no longer loose whatever happens.

Determine how much you need to live the rest of your life comfortably. Think realistic like $400,000.00 to $800,000.00
If you have your goal cash out 50-90% of your bitcoins for dollars, euro's, gold, whatever...
Make sure you did your taxes up to that point so you don't get in trouble Smiley
Invest a part in a house or other items that will set you for life, you now only need food and drinks to survive Smiley
The remaining 10-50% of bitcoins can be cashed out or used when needed. Hopefully they will become more so you can afford luxuries like a big ass boat, jetliner, etc....  Grin

Live your life...
3099  Economy / Speculation / Re: $500 before Christmas ? on: November 13, 2013, 09:09:51 PM
WOW WOW We're half way there .... WOW WOW living on a bitcoin prayer......

If it keeps on going we'll be there at the beginning of next week. hahahaha  Grin
3100  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sold earlier at $380.... on: November 13, 2013, 04:48:56 PM
But when to buy back in...dammit.  Should have bought when it dipped to $298.
Its over.  You won't get another opportunity for it to dip that low again.  Time to invest in something else. 
Beanie babies perhaps LOL  ... kidding.
ONVO, IRBT, SSYS are all very good suggestions....

Or US bonds....  Roll Eyes
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