Are any of these BTC sportsbooks as reliable as fiat sportsbooks? I remember someone getting ripped off for $300k by a BTC sports book but I can't find the thread.
These 4 books are the safest as far as the BTC sportsbooks. I wouldn't put them up there with a book like Pinnacle yet but these 4 are good. "A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013) |
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When you order the bet, you know who are the starting pitchers as they are displayed when you order the bet.
Now if there is a change in the starting pitchers then you know your bet will be pushed regardless of the game result.
Technically we only send out the refunds after the game is over, but you already know before the game even started that the bet will be pushed There's no record of both pitchers on the bet slips. The only way to settle disputes is by looking at the bet slip. Instead of being receptive to problems that you are having you are making false allegations. You don't see what you are doing as a problem with not listing both pitchers on the bet slip and then saying that both pitchers must start? |
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You MUST list the pitchers on his bet slip at the time of the bet. In our Baseball rules page we specifically state that all "Listed" bets will be void unless both named pitchers listed start as pitchers in the first fielding innings for their respective teams. We also refer bettors to the Moneyline (Listed) bet to obtain the names of the two listed pitchers. Another indication is the word "Listed" which is written clearly in the bet slip indicating that it's a listed bet and not an action or "One Listed" bet. The most important thing is that we follow our rules consistently. We have also pushed bets on this game that would have turned to be losers had there was no change in the starting pitchers. So if a bet comes in at approximately the same time that the pitching change occurs and shows up on the Don Best or Sports Options screen then the player doesn't know whether he has a bet or not until after the game because your bet slips fail to mention the pitchers. It allows you to cancel winners and accept losers after the game. You need a lot more experience and aren't following any rules. You must go by the bet slip. What DirectBet is doing is unacceptable when he fails to abide by bet slips. Once again, I made the bet early in the day, yesterday. The Astros changed their listed pitcher (I just looked it up) a couple hours before game time, AFTER I made the bet. I was not aware of the rule, nevertheless, the rule clearly states that if a listed pitcher changes before game time, it will 'Push' the bet...win or lose. I am now aware of this rule and have absolutely no hard feelings with the outcome. tins- I'm glad that everything was fine in your situation. The point that I'm making with DirectBet is there will be times when bets are placed near the same time that pitching changes are announced and he will then be able to decide after the game whether the bet is good or not. |
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You MUST list the pitchers on his bet slip at the time of the bet. In our Baseball rules page we specifically state that all "Listed" bets will be void unless both named pitchers listed start as pitchers in the first fielding innings for their respective teams. We also refer bettors to the Moneyline (Listed) bet to obtain the names of the two listed pitchers. Another indication is the word "Listed" which is written clearly in the bet slip indicating that it's a listed bet and not an action or "One Listed" bet. The most important thing is that we follow our rules consistently. We have also pushed bets on this game that would have turned to be losers had there was no change in the starting pitchers. So if a bet comes in at approximately the same time that the pitching change occurs and shows up on the Don Best or Sports Options screen then the player doesn't know whether he has a bet or not until after the game because your bet slips fail to mention the pitchers. It allows you to cancel winners and accept losers after the game. You need a lot more experience and aren't following any rules. You must go by the bet slip. |
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He should have paid you on this bet. Your bet slip lists Hutchinson and he started the game.
Our Baseball rules are very clear. Following is the relevant information from our rules page : All "Listed" bets will be void unless both named pitchers listed start as pitchers in the first fielding innings for their respective teams. For the named starting pitchers please refer to the Moneyline (Listed) bet. This is a standard universal rule for "Listed Pitchers" bets. For the complete rules please visit http://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtmlThe most important thing is that we follow our rules consistently, meaning that this bet would have been pushed even if the selected team lost the game. For those of you who don't know, Peeps Place getting is paid by our competitors to spread false and misleading information on DirectBet in an attempt to discredit us. He is once again coming here in an attempt to stir controversy. At least this time he is not doing it while hiding behind his Skipper2 account  You MUST list the pitchers on his bet slip at the time of the bet. If a pitcher isn't listed, then it's action for that team. Hutchinson was listed and started the game. Anyone that has made baseball bets for more than 6 months understands action and listed. You ALWAYS go by the bet slip. It was your fault for not listing the 2nd pitcher. No one knows when the change was announced since you failed to list the 2nd pitcher. A suspicious person may think that you would have counted that bet as a loss or push depending on the outcome since you didn't grade it until after the game. Vegas and offshore would all consider that wager a winner. |
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Peeps-
Do me a favor and stop posting my user name as leverage to bash DirectBet.
You keep quoting me and quite frankly I don't appreciate it.
The quote was from his thread; not yours. Thanks
sorry. If there are any quotes that you would like deleted, then I will do it. . |
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He should have paid you on this bet. Your bet slip lists Hutchinson and he started the game. Quote
IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP ERA
Drew Hutchison 3.0 6 4 4 0 2 1 1.35 4.62
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Event : TOR @ HOU
Start Time : 07/31/2014 19:10
Competition : MLB 2014
Bet Type : Moneyline (Listed)
Your Selection : Toronto (D Hutchison) @ Best Available Odds On Receipt. Every other book in the world grades this as a win. |
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It should also be noted that each book targets different markets. Not all of the books want baseball action so their lines may not be competitive, nor will they offer props and derivatives for the baseball market.
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Which book has best odds? Any suggestions?
They all break at different points. Here are some good books with decent lines for baseball: Betcoinsports -106 Cloudbet -106 Casinobitcoin -106 Nitrogen -107 Jetwin -107 Anonibet -108 at best but has a good sized variance. Some books rated lower have -110 and above. You should look at all books for your own preference. Some books with higher holds are opinionated or move on action negating the hold depending upon the side. Even those books moving on air may be slow to move. Players or books can add to it or correct me. |
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Hutchinson started. As I said, you don't understand it and should pay the player. Your rules have mistakes. We aren't going through two pages arguing about it here but will in your thread if you want. IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP ERA
Drew Hutchison 3.0 6 4 4 0 2 1 1.35 4.62 Event : TOR @ HOU
Start Time : 07/31/2014 19:10
Competition : MLB 2014
Bet Type : Moneyline (Listed)
Your Selection : Toronto (D Hutchison) @ Best Available Odds On Receipt. |
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DirectBet and BTCVegas are angered by their ratings which is why they posted. Here are the ratings to the link posted above by rz20 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0"A" rated booksAnonibet A (2011) "B"rated booksNitrogenSports B+ (2012) Betcoinsports B- (2013) Casinobitcoin B- (2013) "C" rated booksCloudbet C+ (2013) SBObitcoin C+ (2013) * Jetwin C (2013) BetOWI C- (2014) * BetVIP C- (2014) "D" rated books Coindraft D+ (2014) Roadbet D+ (2012) Webetcoins D+ (2014) Gobetgo D+ (2014) Bitbm D "F" rated booksBetCas F Bitcoinsport F Bitcoinlivebets F Coinbet F Sportbet.im F StakeBTC F Blockbet F Bitcoinvegas F NRDarkbet Betmoose Fairlay Cointeller Bitbook xbet.io Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports Predictious tdsports betxcp * longer accepting cash deposits Maximum grade based upon time in business: A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players |
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Which book has best odds? Any suggestions?
anyone want to answer? Reduced juice book can also step in. |
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DirectBet - I'll give you one reply to my posts above. It will stand if it's on topic. I'll reply to only what you say and then I'm done with you unless you are stiffing or slow paying.
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On DirectBet July 28 maok please add Quark. I use bitcoin to bet but now I am stuck with 2 BTC in your system because there are 54 minutes till the last bitcoin block. Quark has 30 seconds confirmation time and is specifically build for real financial market with 0.4% inflation annually(1 million quark) its build to get spent not be hoarded, perfect for losing money betting July 30 PharaohUB Can you explain why sometimes it takes forever to say you received the bet? It's very frustrating with live betting. Blockchain recorded my bet at 6:25, but it still hasn't been confirmed or assigned odds 7 minutes later. So much can change in 7 minutes and sometimes you are instant, some times you arent? https://blockchain.info/address/1GcLd4gthgVApX8uqxZz1dyjFW98cnBqgR/20 minutes this is ridiculous. The match will be decided before the bet gets processed and there is no way for me to cancel out. I just have to accept whatever you give me when you decide to accept the bet? This is unnacceptable :-/ Finally accepted 21 minutes later at 3.2 and not 4 which is what it was when I submitted. Oh well jeremypwr This has happened to me on a few occasions with DirectBet. I bet in game for the world cup and the match was over by the time my "pending" bet was accepted. Luckily, I won the bet but the odds were much worse than they were 15 minutes before I placed the bet
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Peeps, if you don't want us to post here we will respect your request.
However, we will not tolerate it when you post incorrect information on DirectBet.
Please delete your misleading post or let us post a correction.
Feature set is not a subjective matter, it's a fact. Either you have that feature or not.
We do have the feature you claim we don't.
I'll post the correction again now.
Event : TOR @ HOU
Start Time : 07/31/2014 19:10
Competition : MLB 2014
Bet Type : Moneyline (Listed)
Your Selection : Toronto (D Hutchison) @ Best Available Odds On Receipt. You lie and you have problems on a daily basis. It takes too much time to go back and forth with you on your problems. Your website was down a lot of the day yesterday. Posters are still complaining about bets being held up. Firm odds cannot be canceled if a player wants to bet without depositing. Your bet slips are misleading. Baseball bets can be listed pitchers, action or one listed pitcher. You canceled a guys bet that was a winner according to the bet slip(see slip above). The bet slip showed that one listed pitcher was needed. The poster complained and you showed a rule that says both must start. Then the slip MUST contain the name of both pitchers. A huge problem is that you are new to gambling and don't understand a lot about it. Then when there's a discussion, you are confused and just decide to attack with lies. I would rather just ignore all your problems and not let you post here. You broke the thread rules and knew the consequences. |
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Players : If you have any questions about the books, fire away and the book or another poster can answer.
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Thursday's News. I'll try to post some remarks that were posted about the books. It was a slow day so I just made some misc. comments.
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011) : Earn up to 10% of your losses each month.
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012) : Exchange lowest hold of any BTC book.
Betcoinsports B- (2013) : Best interface imo.
Casinobitcoin B- (2013) : Publicly traded entity.
"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013) : 100% bonus up to 5 BTC. Some issues with the site being slow.
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) * : Agent site.
Jetwin C (2013) : 100% welcome bonus and 300% micro bonus.
BetOWI C- (2014) * Fiat book that converts bitcoins to USD.
BetVIP C- (2014) : 100% bonus, no US players. Licensed in Curacao.
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014) Only bitcoin fantasy sports site but very little liquidity.
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014) : Some payouts taking 24 hours. Added parlay betting. Reduced juice book.
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitcoinvegas F
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
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I'm thinking about making daily post with updates and problems with every book. DirectBet will not be posting here to respond to any allegations. Should problems with DirectBet just be ignored and left out of all conversations or should problems and updates, such as contests or bonuses, still be mentioned?
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I looked through the basic books and haven't found offer of bonus for the deposit. Do BTC books offer it at all?
Cloudbet has 100% bonus. BetVIP had a bonus but I don't see it on their homepage now. Books, chime in if you offer a bonus. Got off topic again. Anyone else know of bonuses? The beginning of the NFL season normally brings out the bonuses. |
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Peeps Place if you are not rating DirectBet, and not allowing to post DirectBet, then you don't have right to quote post from DirectBet thread.
If you accuse DirectBet from quoting then he have all rights to defend himself.
DirectBet was well aware of what would happen if he continued to talk about books other than DirectBet. He bashes me on a consistent basis in his thread. I've decided not to enter his thread there and he's not entering here. He knew the rules. I'm not going to defend myself against his daily attacks and clutter the thread. I think his posts in the locked thread provide the best evidence of DirectBet's character and book. Then Why are you igniting fire, quoting from DirectBet thread. For both of you better you don't care about him and he don't care about you. Just both of you guys stop talking each other. Just delete that post you quote from DirectBet if you are not going to rate DirectBet. You stopped rating them so better don't quote them and leave that book alone. If you still quoting them and then think they will not reply so making moderated thread you are misusing your power. iram, This is a serious thread. Directbet wasn't mature enough to abide by the rules. Scams and problems will be pointed out and DirectBet is no longer going to dictate the rules of the thread. But this time you are making joke of this thread, you want to accused Directbet and don't want that he will not defend. P.S. I know you can delete my post too, but I don't care, because you are doing wrong this time. I'm not deleting player's posts unless overly repetitive. Let's use an example. Coindrafts is rated low. Coindrafts could come in this thread and make a mockery of the thread. I would then disallow Coindraft from posting but continue to post problems. Books will not dictate the thread. That is my point Peep Place, you are rating Coindrafts but not DirectBet, you can accuse Coindraft because you gave them low rating. But you removed DirectBet from rating then leave them alone or include again in ratings. If a few other's agree with you, then the change will be made. I'm glad that you spoke up. The players will dictate the evolution of this thread. The only thing that is steadfast, is that DirectBet won't be posting here since he was warned on the consequences many times. If you continue to crap up the rating guide, then I'll just take you off and start a self moderated thread in which you won't be allowed to post. Thanks |
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