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3081  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: May 23, 2020, 03:44:25 AM
So what Trump said is equivalent to saying you aren't black unless you vote for me?

No.  Biden said something stupid, admitted it and apologized.
3082  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: May 23, 2020, 03:30:22 AM

Is the UK SARS-CoV-2 virus a member of the union and negotiated a 2-day resting period of its dying members?


No, but the people reporting the deaths probably are.  Use your brain.

You mean only in the UK, rest of the world works different. In your theory monday would be the highest number reported, not the lowest. Use your brain or is it oxygen starved?

No.  Other countries have a weekly patterns also.
For the US, Tuesdays are almost always the highest and Sundays the lowest.



I don't know exactly how each system runs, but it really only takes a basic understanding of bureaucracy and what a 'work week' is to realize why the data looks like that.

Did you feel like a super-sleuth shading that pattern in the UK chart?

 

3083  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: May 23, 2020, 02:00:59 AM
“Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/22/joe-biden-breakfast-club-interview-274490

This guy is like the human incarnation of the Hindenburg.

Definitely a stupid thing to say.  But Black people really do like Biden.  Like overwhelmingly.  I think he polled highest with blacks throughout the entire primary...as an old white guy that's nuts.  

The identity politics numbers have been pretty consistent since day 1.  This is from the most recent fox poll, I don't think  (Don't get triggered Trump fans, it's just a general poll,....nothing to do with electoral college.  We all know Biden has a 0% chance of winning)








https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/05/Fox_May-17-20-2020_Complete_National_Topline_May-21-Release.pdf

Perhaps Trump didn't say "I'm the best thing that ever happened to black people" and "I'm the least racist person in the world" enough times.
3084  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: May 22, 2020, 11:16:32 PM
Ok how about something a little bipartisan.

#nofilter


3085  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: May 22, 2020, 08:54:25 PM
I do know she emailed herself to document what she was told, and the most likely explanation for that is she didn't believe what she was told, and didn't want to be the one held responsible for these crimes.

I don't know for sure either, and I do agree that this was her covering her ass, but I just don't see how this could be interpreted as Rice trying not to become the fall guy for Obama.  It looks more like she was literally just keeping the record straight.

By law, her notes - and literally any other notes or emails involving the President or VP belongs in the Presidential records with plans to eventually be made public.  I don't think it's unreasonable to think on her last day of work (Inaguration) she was taking care of the last of whatever it takes to put things in the record.  I assume Obama, Biden and Comey all know how the system works and expected there to be a record of their meeting, like every other meeting.  I bet Comey filed a memo also considering it was one of the few times they ever spoke.

The reason that is a big deal is because if they had information to support the claim that Flynn was working with the Russians, they had no excuse to not inform the incoming president about this so he could take precautions. So in the end this is not just about keeping Flynn in the dark, it is about keeping the president in the dark. If they really believed Flynn did this, they would intentionally be risking national security to go after Trump by not informing him. You can't have it both ways.

It was about whether or not they could trust Flynn with sensitive information regarding Russia.

It was already known that there were connections between Trump, his family, his campaign and Russia.  In Flynns case, he was fired by Obama in 2014 as head of the DIA and a few months later was being paid by RT and having dinner with Putin.

Isn't that alone enough for Obama to ask Comey 'should I worry about what we hand over to Flynn about Russia right now?'.  I know it was only a couple weeks left, but he was still President and responsible for the country.  And he did reportedly warn Trump about Flynn.  Told him not to hire him.  Chris Christie (when he was head of transition) also said he was a train wreck waiting to happen or something.

If this is not her covering her ass from becoming the fall guy, what is she covering her ass from exactly? Please do tell me the liability you think she is concerned about. Of course the emails are part of the record, that is why she emailed herself explicitly to make it part of public record. Not all meetings are transcribed and recorded.

Yes, we get it, that is the pretext for the Flynn investigation. That still doesn't explain what evidence they had to get the warrant to begin with, and still doesn't explain why they did not inform Trump so he could take precautions to protect national security. Either they thought Flynn was a real threat or they didn't. Either they believed him to be a security risk, and put national security at risk to go after Trump by not informing him, or they knew it was a baseless illegal warrant used as pretext to go after Trump. Telling him not to hire him is not the same as briefing him on a potential security threat, one which never existed by the way.

There are ZERO documented connections involving ANY criminal activity linking the Trump campaign and Russia. This claim is based on 3 years of baseless investigation relying upon illegal warrants and media hype. There is no substance behind any of these claims. You can swear up and down there are but you can't actually ever provide any evidence of it. That makes this whole freak show A TOTALLY ILLEGAL PARTISAN OPERATION utilizing the intelligence and surveillance apparatus of this nation in a criminal attempt to target a duly elected sitting president by the outgoing administration. This is unprecedented criminal behavior putting the very nation itself at risk by threatening the peaceful transition of power that marks an actual democracy.

I think it's possible that Obama truly did make an effort to put a wall between himself and any criminal investigation into ties between Trump campaign and Russia and focus only the National Security side of things.  There's obviously a bit of overlap, which makes things tricky and all the more reason to make the record very clear the motivations for his actions.

The now public Rice email seems to be doing just that.  

You're right about the Warrant thing.  The FISA system is a mess and the FBI basically just exploited it.  I don't want to have another Russia collusion debate on what we learned years later, but I agree with you that in Jan 2017 the FBI did not have solid evidence that a crime was committed.  There was smoke though.  And the FISA warrants had nothing to do with spying on Russians.  We have to spy on Russia.

I'm not sure if you believe it or not, but let's assume for sake of argument that the FBI had intercepted a call between Flynn and Russian Ambassador where Flynn told the Ambassador not to worry about the sanctions.

Is that a crime?  I honestly don't know.  I do think it's a big deal though.  A retired 3 star general who had served as director of the DIA (basically the CIA for just the military) under Obama for 2 years, undermining the administration by telling our enemy not to worry about the sanctions his president had just applied.

If all that really happened, what's the right thing to do?

And what do you do when you see Flynn lie about it to Pence and Spicer, who turned around and told the Nation?

In hindsight, they probably just should've let Flynn get away with it.  But at the time they didn't know what else Flynn, the National Security Advisor to the President, was lying about.
3086  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 22, 2020, 08:17:54 PM
Barr appointed the Connecticut state attorney, John Durham, to lead the review of whether US intelligence and law enforcement agencies acted properly when they examined possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.



While Barr said Monday that he does not expect Durham's work to lead to a criminal investigation of either Obama or Biden, he suggested that "others" could be vulnerable in the criminal inquiry.

I don't think it was off topic when you posted about the same investigation in this thread 7 months ago when it was opened.  Pretty sure that this is also what Trump is talking about when he says 'OBAMA-GATE!' 'biggest political crime in American history!'

Quote
"Senate Republicans break with Trump over ‘Obamagate’"

Quote
Trump accused the former president of committing the “biggest political crime in American history.”
Quote
When asked Monday what crime Obama allegedly committed, Trump replied: “You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to everybody, all you have to do is read the newspapers.”
Quote
President Donald Trump’s aggressive campaign to encourage sweeping investigations of his predecessor Barack Obama met a unanimous response from Senate Republicans: No thanks.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/11/senate-republicans-trump-obamagate-24973
3087  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: May 22, 2020, 07:19:00 PM

Is the UK SARS-CoV-2 virus a member of the union and negotiated a 2-day resting period of its dying members?


No, but the people reporting the deaths probably are.  Use your brain.
3088  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: May 22, 2020, 07:13:26 PM
I do know she emailed herself to document what she was told, and the most likely explanation for that is she didn't believe what she was told, and didn't want to be the one held responsible for these crimes.

I don't know for sure either, and I do agree that this was her covering her ass, but I just don't see how this could be interpreted as Rice trying not to become the fall guy for Obama.  It looks more like she was literally just keeping the record straight.

By law, her notes - and literally any other notes or emails involving the President or VP belongs in the Presidential records with plans to eventually be made public.  I don't think it's unreasonable to think on her last day of work (Inaguration) she was taking care of the last of whatever it takes to put things in the record.  I assume Obama, Biden and Comey all know how the system works and expected there to be a record of their meeting, like every other meeting.  I bet Comey filed a memo also considering it was one of the few times they ever spoke.

The reason that is a big deal is because if they had information to support the claim that Flynn was working with the Russians, they had no excuse to not inform the incoming president about this so he could take precautions. So in the end this is not just about keeping Flynn in the dark, it is about keeping the president in the dark. If they really believed Flynn did this, they would intentionally be risking national security to go after Trump by not informing him. You can't have it both ways.

It was about whether or not they could trust Flynn with sensitive information regarding Russia.

It was already known that there were connections between Trump, his family, his campaign and Russia.  In Flynns case, he was fired by Obama in 2014 as head of the DIA and a few months later was being paid by RT and having dinner with Putin.

Isn't that alone enough for Obama to ask Comey 'should I worry about what we hand over to Flynn about Russia right now?'.  I know it was only a couple weeks left, but he was still President and responsible for the country.  And he did reportedly warn Trump about Flynn.  Told him not to hire him.  Chris Christie (when he was head of transition) also said he was a train wreck waiting to happen or something.
3089  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: May 22, 2020, 05:54:00 PM
The population of Great Britain is 66.65 million people. And you are talking about as many as 256 people.
Do you feel that these are disparate figures?
One in five in the world dies of AIDS. Where is the panic and graphics? Why are they silent about this, and do not give out barrier contraceptives?

Comparisons like this are stupid and irrelevant, but you really fucked this one up and I can't help myself.

Top 2 are UK covid deaths and cases by day.
Bottom is UK aids by year.





3090  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 22, 2020, 05:17:47 PM
"Barr: Obama, Biden not under criminal investigation despite Trump's claims"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/18/obama-biden-not-under-criminal-investigation-despite-trumps-claims/5213295002/


Kind of reminds me of a few months ago...


"U.S. inquiry into FBI, Clinton spurred by Republicans ends without results: Washington Post"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-investigation/u-s-inquiry-into-fbi-clinton-spurred-by-republicans-ends-without-results-washington-post-idUSKBN1Z905V


Or a couple years ago...


"Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud"

https://apnews.com/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d/Report:-Trump-commission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud

None of this is on topic.

I wish you were right.  He generally shouldn't be involved directly in the investigation of anyone, especially personal enemies - aside from maybe the voter fraud commission, all he's doing is introducing the appearance of a conflict of interest should any of his enemies actually get indicted.  But he keeps doing it and making it all about himself.  These are not FBI or even congressional investigations...they're Trump Investigations.


"Senate Republicans break with Trump over ‘Obamagate’"

Quote
Trump accused the former president of committing the “biggest political crime in American history.”
Quote
When asked Monday what crime Obama allegedly committed, Trump replied: “You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to everybody, all you have to do is read the newspapers.”
Quote
President Donald Trump’s aggressive campaign to encourage sweeping investigations of his predecessor Barack Obama met a unanimous response from Senate Republicans: No thanks.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/11/senate-republicans-trump-obamagate-249734
3091  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: May 22, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
"Declassified Rice Email Confirms Obama, Biden And Comey Targeted Flynn"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/declassified-rice-email-confirms-obama-biden-and-comey-targeted-flynn

Here's the declassified part:

"Director Comey affirmed that he is proceeding ‘by the book’ as it relates to law enforcement. From a national security perspective, Comey said he does have some concerns that incoming NSA Flynn is speaking frequently with Russian Ambassador Kislyak. Comey said that could be an issue as it relates to sharing sensitive information. President Obama asked if Comey was saying that the NSC should not pass sensitive information related to Russia to Flynn. Comey replied ‘potentially.’ He added that he has no indication thus far that Flynn has passed classified information to Kislyak, but he noted that ‘the level of communication is unusual.'"\

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000172-2e48-d57a-ad7b-7e6f97060000

They were discussing whether or not to give Flynn classified information before Trump took office.

The email points to Obama not wanting to have anything to do with the law enforcement side of things.  Just the National Security stuff.

"The President stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. He reiterated that law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the book."

Thanks for demonstrating how lost you are. This declassified email is what you call "covering your ass". Rice was put in a position to speak for these people in a way that put her in liability, they were attempting to use her as a patsy. She predicted this eventuality based on the nature of the illegal investigation, as a result, she sent this email TO HERSELF to provide an out in case this was in fact investigated. Who sends emails to themselves?

Just to be clear, do you think the truth is the opposite of what she said in her email to herself?  How did the declassified paragraph change anything then?  Everything else was declassified in 2018.

The article you linked, and much of the right wing media are making the 'smoking gun' out to be the fact that Obama and Comey discussed the possibility of limiting the amount of classified information involving Russia that Flynn was exposed to during the transition.
3092  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 22, 2020, 04:02:42 PM
"Barr: Obama, Biden not under criminal investigation despite Trump's claims"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/18/obama-biden-not-under-criminal-investigation-despite-trumps-claims/5213295002/


Kind of reminds me of a few months ago...


"U.S. inquiry into FBI, Clinton spurred by Republicans ends without results: Washington Post"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-investigation/u-s-inquiry-into-fbi-clinton-spurred-by-republicans-ends-without-results-washington-post-idUSKBN1Z905V


Or a couple years ago...


"Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud"

https://apnews.com/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d/Report:-Trump-commission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud
3093  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: May 22, 2020, 12:28:00 PM
"Declassified Rice Email Confirms Obama, Biden And Comey Targeted Flynn"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/declassified-rice-email-confirms-obama-biden-and-comey-targeted-flynn

Here's the declassified part:

"Director Comey affirmed that he is proceeding ‘by the book’ as it relates to law enforcement. From a national security perspective, Comey said he does have some concerns that incoming NSA Flynn is speaking frequently with Russian Ambassador Kislyak. Comey said that could be an issue as it relates to sharing sensitive information. President Obama asked if Comey was saying that the NSC should not pass sensitive information related to Russia to Flynn. Comey replied ‘potentially.’ He added that he has no indication thus far that Flynn has passed classified information to Kislyak, but he noted that ‘the level of communication is unusual.'"\

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000172-2e48-d57a-ad7b-7e6f97060000

They were discussing whether or not to give Flynn classified information before Trump took office.

The email points to Obama not wanting to have anything to do with the law enforcement side of things.  Just the National Security stuff.

"The President stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. He reiterated that law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the book."
3094  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: May 22, 2020, 11:38:44 AM
Do you have a source for this?

He's basically just quoting a Mike Adams article on NewsTarget.com.  Mike adams is a pseudo science, conspiracy theorist, fake news guy that also owns Natural.news, Trump.news and a bunch of other similar sites.

The gist of the article is that the only reason so many people are dying is because they are all being treated for the wrong thing, and the 100% confirmed cure is....injecting bleach.

So it turns out covid-19 is not a acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient.Inflammation and the ticking (clotting) of Blood prevents it from carrying oxygen and the patient eventually die of asphyxiation.
Who was responsible for not allowing autopsys at beginning, WHO?


Direct quotes from this article: BREAKING: Researchers claim 100 percent cure rate vs. covid-19 in 100+ patient trial conducted in Ecuador, using intravenous chlorine dioxide


To simplify these findings, covid-19 is not acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient. The use of ventilators only makes the problem worse, which is why previous observational studies have found that 88% of patients put on ventilators end up dying. They are dying because the ventilator treatment is the wrong treatment.

Covid-19 isn’t an Acute Respiratory Disease (ARD), it turns out. Rather, it often presents as an inflammation and blood clotting condition (see The Lancet research, below) which causes the blood to be unable to carry oxygen, resulting in patient hypoxia and eventual asphyxiation.

3095  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING & DEAN NOLAN: Disastrous Reputation! Read This Reddit Post. on: May 22, 2020, 10:55:19 AM
There is no way you can spend THAT much money to luxury life, he has to have some of it to his account for this day. But what we are not really seeing is that, if you are doing something like this to scam people, you are usually not alone, he is the face of the heist but there must have been some other people with him as well, so he had  to keep paying people to stay silent as well, that has to be the biggest portion that he lost.

I really do not think he needs the 200 dollars to claim from bitsler but I agree that it looks like he is doing it as well, so I can't really say why someone who stole that much money would still come in for the extra 200 dollars? It doesn't compute in my mind to get millions of dollars and still try to work hard for 200 more. He is definitely a weird dude.

No amount of money is too much to gamble away in a very short period of time.  Lose thousands that aren't yours and then millions chasing the thousands.  In my opinion, that's most likely what happened with Dean.  I would be absolutely shocked if he's not broke.
3096  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: May 19, 2020, 07:30:59 AM
I would put money on either Michelle Obama or Killary taking his spot.

Let's go.

I would be glad to take money from you retards, but gambling in the US is illegal in most states, and you would probably report me after I took your money.

We could just bet signatures.

No money involved.

Whoever loses has to post the signature that the winner requests.  We can figure out a specific terms if you're interested.

Perfectly open to negotiations. I realize your sig is worth more than mine.  (I would need a 'no scam ICO/casino/BCH' clause, for example - and I would expect you to require the same - maybe we could just figure out what the sigs would say before hands) and I would understand if you were only willing to risk a portion of your sig/avatar/text in exchange for mine.

Maybe take the bet with suchmoon instead.  I'd probably buy a piece of that.

It's an interesting thought no?  Let's discuss.  Make an offer.
No.

Let me know if you change your mind (again).  We could figure something out where loser has to make donation to some specified charity.



I would put money on either Michelle Obama or Killary taking his spot.
I would put money on either Michelle Obama or Killary taking his spot.
I would put money on either Michelle Obama or Killary taking his spot.
I would put money on either Michelle Obama or Killary taking his spot.
I would put money on either Michelle Obama or Killary taking his spot.





No.
No.
No.
3097  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Door To Door Forced Vaccinations Now Taking Place in Samoa on: May 19, 2020, 05:20:49 AM
It is no coincidence this escalation is being tested as a dry run in a smaller US territory filled with ethnic minorities. This is to work out the bugs before they roll it out across the USA and the rest of the world. What side of history will you be on?

Global mandatory vaccinations in 3...2...

Finally...you're being optimistic!
3098  Economy / Services / Re: JacksClub.io - Signature Design Contest [PRICEPOOL 0.045 BTC] on: May 19, 2020, 05:01:43 AM
Is there an Escrow for contest funds?
recomended escrow service: Hhampuz


We don't have any atm, but as a new member I understand the request.
I am currently talking to several escrow services, it will be sorted out before the contest ends!



It you want it to be successful, sort it out right away.  Not 'before the contest ends' ... right now.  And if it takes a couple days, let people know that the prizes aren't guaranteed until they are.  You have no buisness running any sort of contest until this happens.
You need to find a trusted member of the community to control the funds. The only reason not to do so means you either don't understand this world or you intend to scam - not a good look either way.
3099  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: May 19, 2020, 04:45:35 AM
I would put money on either Michelle Obama or Killary taking his spot.

Let's go.

I would be glad to take money from you retards, but gambling in the US is illegal in most states, and you would probably report me after I took your money.

We could just bet signatures.

No money involved.

Whoever loses has to post the signature that the winner requests.  We can figure out a specific terms if you're interested.

Perfectly open to negotiations. I realize your sig is worth more than mine.  (I would need a 'no scam ICO/casino/BCH' clause, for example - and I would expect you to require the same - maybe we could just figure out what the sigs would say before hands) and I would understand if you were only willing to risk a portion of your sig/avatar/text in exchange for mine.

Maybe take the bet with suchmoon instead.  I'd probably buy a piece of that.

It's an interesting thought no?  Let's discuss.  Make an offer.
3100  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 19, 2020, 04:29:51 AM
Dude.  Go back and read the documents I posted.

I'll post them again if you want.  But you have to promise to read them and be willing to discuss what they say.

Hey look who it is! TwattySqueal here to die on this hill. Keep defending these frauds and lies regardless of how many facts come out proving it to be baseless and illegal. It is a good look for you.

Can we call a truce please?

When you call me mean names it make me sad  Cry

Let's be nice to each other from now on, even if we disagree.  What do you think?
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