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3081  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trade Bitcoin - AVOID "Get Rich Quick" Shit Coin Pump and Dump on: November 17, 2019, 08:37:32 PM
There are pumps and dumps in Bitcoin as well and those who traded it in the last few months experienced them first hand. Going into bitcoin trading and especially trying to trade with leverage will make them play you like a fiddle. That's what those fast moves of 1k BTC on Bitstamp are meant to do. Liquidate all the leveraged suckers and influence exchanges with higher liquidity.
3082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Addiction at its Worst! on: November 17, 2019, 08:13:01 PM
I don't think that it will happen to myself since i am not a person who is not comfortable not having any money that I can use when I want to buy something I like but I know someone that always go to casino and even sold his car just to have money to gamble in the casino.

I feel the same. I've never done anything I should be ashamed of when it comes to money, gambling, borrowing, whatever. I'm not and have never been in debt and I don't feel like I'll ever be addicted to gambling. I just don't feel it and know that I can stop at any time. It doesn't draw me in and I don't think about it when I'm doing other things.

The stories from OP's links are tragic but they don't happen often. Think of how many people get mugged everyday and how many employees steal from their employers. These things happen and gambling related crimes are a very small piece of the pie.
3083  Economy / Speculation / Re: A Saving Plan on: November 17, 2019, 08:02:10 PM
bitcoin is now entering $ 8k, and a little more waiting before the halving stage. maybe op is also still accumulating bitcoin according to plan.

If you read a bit more of this thread you'd know that he is.

I'm still buying and dollar cost averaging. Are you doing it too? Eheh.

It's a good plan since BItcoin tends to revisit past highs and 50% of ATH is always a good place to start buying. I had my main focus on 6k last year as the bottom and it should have been the bottom but we fell lower due to manipulation.
3084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Stellar burned half of it's supply and Price Spikes on: November 17, 2019, 07:49:50 PM
It spiked the price up for stellar but what's next? the dumping session has come.
It's a great example of limited supply increasing value and a proof that another bitcoin halving will be followed by a pump.
Bitcoin halving will be much better than stellar and other altcoins that just held their halving just like Litecoin. Base on the history, just take a look at the two halvings that was made by bitcoin.

I like the saying that past does not indicate future performance and you should never take the price for granted. We could easily see a big dump around the halving. Things like that happened before you can see it on the same charts you're using to show the pumps! Before the first and the second halving there was a lot of blood, but BTC recovered. I hope it will recover again.
3085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Stellar burned half of it's supply and Price Spikes on: November 17, 2019, 07:29:59 PM
It's a great example of limited supply increasing value and a proof that another bitcoin halving will be followed by a pump.

That's a really good move coming from the xlm devs they are always thinking about their coin
They're focused on the money that's how these centralized coin devs think about their coins. They are just money making machines for them nothing else. The move was good I agree but it was supposed to increase the value of their holdings.
3086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why are you gambling? on: November 16, 2019, 08:22:02 PM
The poll looks funny because nobody chose "i'm addicted" and I bet there's more than one addict browsing this forum. When I see people tell their stories of how they borrowed money from someone and gambled it all away I know they are addicted but first rule of addiction is that real addicts don't want to admit it. That's why on this forum where addicts are posting every day nobody chose this option.

I don't gamble much but when I do it's to win more money and do something excited. Sometimes you need that little dose of adrenaline and gambling gives it.

3087  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-11-13] Bitcoin Getting Favored by Retirees in Australia Despite Volatility on: November 16, 2019, 08:10:03 PM
2.5% of the retirees intend to get some crypto in the next half year? I find that hard to believe as that generally is the category to not pay much attention to speculative assets such as crypto.

I wonder how they exactly measured that. Probably just another survey with a few hundred participants, and they were probably excited (read, more bullish) due the increase some months ago. I'm quite sure that if the survey was conducted today the results wouldn't be completely different. Common joes like to buy what they see go up, but ignore what goes down.

A report made by the crypto exchange Independent Reserve
When someone registers on an exchange, to deposit and withdrawals fiat currency people have to comply with the KYC policy, or at least submit the id.
An exchange knows who buys and sells bitcoin, including their age, which explains the method of the survey and what they are planning to do with the pension funds in retirement.

Instead of asking them to participate in the survey they're processing their private data for purpose of marketing and research. This is why you shouldn't do KYC people.
Most people think their ID gets read once by an employee who presses a green or red button and the ID gets deleted. That's what many of these exchanges are telling us that our documents will be deleted after verification.

This is strange that old people are choosing crypto. When you're older you usually don't have the nerves to risk your money.

3088  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banks do not control my bitcoins - Zimbabwe News! on: November 16, 2019, 07:52:49 PM
Not only Zimbabwe there are many more countries going through the sam problem. Surely Bitcoin means freedom from centralized control and Banks.

But, I do not understand how are you relating Bitcoin to financial freedom. As per my understanding you have to convert Bitcoin to fiat, you are still depending on Fiat.

It is a crisis situation out there, do not make a mockery of it. They need Fiat to survive, hospitals and food store there do not accept Bitcoin but Fiat.

Zimbabwe is one of the leaders in bankruptcy and insolvency a bit like Venezuela but many of you don't even know about hyperinflation in some countries that are acting like they have it under control. Belarus had to print new bills 10 years ago because they had already exchanging million ruble bills and told people to sell the old bills to the government and in return they'd get the new smaller notes. It's a great way to battle hyperinflation by robbing citizens and giving them something new that now would be worth even less Cheesy

Only cryptocurrency and decentralization can save people from being cheated by their governments.
3089  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Have You Paid Tax On Bitcoin? on: November 16, 2019, 07:45:49 PM
I didn't pay anything but in Germany you can hold for a year and then sell tax free if that's what you want. I also prefer to hold so I'm probably selling €1k a year and spend it on little things gifts electronics. I buy one phone every 2-3 years and don't have much expensive stuff so even If I lived in a different country I would have such a low income from crypto that I wouldn't have to pay tax.
3090  Economy / Speculation / Re: I wan't to believe on: November 16, 2019, 07:15:16 PM
now we have entered November 2019, and the price of BTC is currently 9200. So I doubt the article that you shared. but I do not consider all of it as a failed prediction, there is still time to wait for other predictions. The closest time is that the prediction is February 2020, we will wait until February, I still hope that the prediction is in accordance with the reality later, and I am sure that everything can happen. because I often hear that in 2020 the price of bitcoin will increase.


None of these people consider possible manipulation in their TA. There's a lot of shorting and rich people manipulating Bitcoin because of its small liquidity. In a normal stock market people are investing tenths of millions. Many of these companies are worth over 100 million. If you had 100 million which is really the value of a big transatlantic ship you could crash the price of Bitcoin and put it back in a bear market. 
3091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Can an expert tell me how to identify a shitcoin (example: Insight Chain) on: November 16, 2019, 03:05:34 PM
I usually use a one red flag rule with altcoins. If I see a single red flag i never touch the coin.

Possible red flags are fake team pictures, fake resumes, anonymous team, bad sites with bugs, stolen code or code based on another coin with very little changes, plagiarized anything like white paper or articles, only tradable on small and shady exchanges.

You won't be sure if the coin is a failure until you see the price and volume.
3092  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Halving Price Prediction $55,000 - $130,000 on: November 16, 2019, 02:56:21 PM

Right after the first halving in 2012, the Bitcoin price rose from $12 to $140. Weeks after the second halving in 2016, Bitcoin started a rally that propelled its price from $582 to $20,000.
the problem is :

in 2012 and 2016 halving, people still put a lot of doubts in bitcoin saying bitcoin will have zero value, majority did not believe that bitcoin will be worthy in the future and then the price skyrocketed, proven they all wrong.
nowadays majority so over confident about the upcoming bitcoin halving making speculation it will worth 5 to 20times from the current price , guess what should happen? the price fall down , prove the majority wrong?

a little bit confusing , i just don't want to act over confidently , it was never safe for your health  Wink

The price has no mind of its own and it doesn't want to do anything or prove anyone wrong. People see the halving as a catalyst for growth because of math.
If the reward gets halved the value of new coins will have to double.

Even if the price of the existing coins will not miners won't sell new coins for 8k USD but will want to make some money mining them and wait until the price is at least 16k. This will create a shortage of supply and those who decide to buy will have to buy from holders not from miners.
3093  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 51% attack now Possible by the Top 3 Mining Pool Operators on: November 16, 2019, 02:46:01 PM
I don’t think it’s easy to coordinate that kind of attack at this point. You would need to get all three to agree to do something drastic an I just don’t think they will all cooperate to do that.

It's not and even if 3 major pools could do it they won't because each of them has a lot to lose and not a lot to win.

If one of them decided to play the other 2 it could make them lose money and time trying to perform an attack, fail and compromise themselves. The operator who would expose them would make more money and gain respect of the community for exposing the attack. Also a stable network benefits all miners. If they were able to compromise it by attacking it would be like they bought a car and then burned it in public to get insurance money. It's not worth it!
3094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have You Counted Or Estimate All Your Losses And.... on: November 16, 2019, 12:58:39 AM
I lost some money gambling but it wasn't that much really. I don't know the exact numbers but it was less than 200 dollars.

I usually keep my wins and losses in balance with a slight tip towards the loss unfortunately. I'm also not a frequent gambler and when I do gamble I don't place big bets. It's usually $20 here $20 there.

Don't beat yourself up if you lost a lot. One day you lose the other day you win and life goes on. I lost so much by not trading BTC when I should that I could buy a good car but I don't think about it. Nothing good would come out of it.
3095  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 3 Concerns You Have For Bitcoin on: November 16, 2019, 12:42:27 AM
My main concern for Bitcoin is that if it ever become popular it will be centralised by the government especially when it is finally been accepted by the governments as part of the country currency.
Another concern is that after this adoption, many people will hodl it, monopolizing it, and it will become a thing for the rich only.

LOL is that really your main concern? If it really is you can stop worrying invest and focus on doing something else while your money grows.

Bitcoin will never be centralized. It's decentralized by nature, you can't make it centralized. You'd have to buy out all the miners and even then you'd only be able to centralize transactions not the coins people are holding and you wouldn't be able to change destination of the coins. You'd be the king of nothing.

The second concern is also funny. If you're afraid that people will hold it and be rich then buy now while it's cheap and hold it yourself. You're funny.
3096  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Could Make Bitcoin Drop To $5? on: November 15, 2019, 10:49:17 PM
Possible on a single exchange especially on one of those with lower volume. They don't have enough liquidity and if some big holder dumped a thousand bitcoin in there who knows what buy orders would get triggered and what would the bots do.

If you're asking about global price going to 5 USD it would be a long process possibly taking years. There are people who bought for more than 5 and would never sell even if the price were to hit 100 USD or something like that so I doubt it's possible for us to ever go below 1k at this point. The community of hodlers is too big.
3097  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: An investor lost $24 million worth of bitcoin on: November 15, 2019, 10:21:51 PM
This should be a lesson to all those who hold money on exchanges and in online wallets.
There were so many things ho could do to be safe and all of those things were so easy.

Buy a hardware wallet.
Divide money between wallets.
Keep some on exchanges so at least you'd have different emails and account names for each of them.
Not use gmail.
3098  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the halving a catalyst for a Bitcoin price bubble? on: November 15, 2019, 10:03:16 PM
It could be but the previous halvings needed time to ignite. If you check the exact times of halvings the price was pretty low right before they hit.

If the story repeats itself we won't see a bull run until Summer or Autumn 2020. I'd like us to at least stay at 50% of ATH until then but we can't even hold 9k.
3099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bounty hunters do not need to wait for altcoin season on: November 15, 2019, 06:22:22 PM
Due to the worst condition of the market mostly projects turn into SCAM because of their failure in achieving their target. Secondly, good exchanges charge for a listing of the coin so there again bounty hunters suffer they have to wait too long to sell their earned coins. In this condition only signature campaigns are good that are paying in BTC or ETH.

Scam projects aren't doing it because of bear market. If they want to scam they want to scam and the market has nothing to do with it. Most scam projects are built to scam like bitconnect and you have to see the difference between bankrupt projects and scams. Bankruptcy can happen to anyone and can be the result of the bear market.

You shouldn't wait for the altcoin season. Any moment is good to accumulate and wait. Bull market can sometimes last for only 2 months. What are you going to do then? Rush all bounties at once?
3100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'm planning to invest in Tron Coin on: November 15, 2019, 05:37:05 PM
There's a potential in Cardano and I think you should also consider this coin because it's very similar to Tron and even following it as far as the market moves are concerned.

There are pros and cons of choosing Tron the main positive is that there's a lot of hype surrounding it but a lot of this hype comes from the CEO himself and the money he's spending on promotion. The same hype can disappear when the money stops flowing or the CEO does something to make the community turn towards another coin.

For me Tron is too risky.
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