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3101  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoins in 2030 on: December 08, 2020, 03:27:21 PM
Very fascinating scenario. There is also another unknown variable to be considered: how much a dollar will be worth every step on the way and will be the dollar still keeping its dominance as the most common currency in the world? If bitcoin lives up to its own expectations a parabolic rise like the one you imagined it is not impossible at all.

That is indeed a factor, but I don't think it holds so much weight, we use the U.S dollar because it's the easiest medium of exchange that we understand, but in reality, bitcoin needs to go up in value against what the majority of the world uses a "currency", miners will have to pay for electricity and make some profit, so whichever medium of exchange they use to pay those bills must drop against the exchange value of Bitcoin.
3102  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Can I improve luck by mining with multiple pools on: December 08, 2020, 02:26:31 PM
Is it advantageous to mine in multiple pools at the same time? Or is it generally considered better to put all your power in with one mining pool?

The only advantage to mining in different mining pools is redundancy against pool failure, including problems with their server/node or any network related issue that would stop your miner from connecting to that pool, plus the chances of a pool closing down or refusing to pay you, but as far as luck goes, there is really nothing you can do to increase it.

If Slushpool's luck is giving you troubles, just mine to a PPS+/FPPS pool and you won't have to worry about anybody's luck, it comes with a higher fee of course.
3103  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: December 08, 2020, 01:39:48 PM
@stompix , i skimmed through it real quick.

Greater efficiency — Bitcoin miners are in a global race to submit a block before any other pool or miner once solved. Based in North America and with nodes all over the world, Titan Pool members have a greater chance of submitting and propagating solved blocks in a timely manner, increasing their chances of earning rewards.

Bullshit, first of all most miners are on PPS, so a block is submitted or not isn't something they really care about, secondly and most importantly the majority of the nodes that matter is owned by Chinese pools, having your node in the U.S is nothing special, plus it is not like all these pools don't have servers in the U.S anyway.

Greater simplicity — The Titan Pool reduces jurisdictional and support issues for North American miners, who previously may have entered into potentially complicated, trans-national agreements.

I am not a north American miner, but what issues would one have with a Chinese pool that would urge him to migrate to an American mining pool?

The most important thing would be their fees, the rest is really just noise.

With that being said, I am happy to see non-Chinese mining pools joining the game, it is good for Bitcoin in general, after all, they can't be worse than the Antpool.
3104  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: لندعم لغتنا العربيه mempool on: December 08, 2020, 01:58:05 AM
من يقوم بعمل ال Review على الترجمة العربية؟ يجب على الاخ " BARO0K" التوقف عن الترجمة مع كامل احترامي له, يبدو انه يستعمل الترجمة الالية والنتيجة سيئة جدا, والخطاء بالاساس على الشخص الذي يقوم بمراجعة الترجمة وقبولها!

امثلة على الاخطاء

1- inputs and outputs تم ترجمتها على انها (المساهمات و الانتاجيه)
2- transaction تم ترجمتها على انها (صفقة)
3-fee ترجمت على انها (مجانا)

ارجو من المشرف على هده الترجمة تغير نظام الترجمة وتسليم التأكيد لشخص يتكلم العربية والانجليزية بطلاقة.
3105  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history on: December 08, 2020, 12:27:14 AM
Thanks for finding the post, I started this topic to help the mining community locate repair services nearby, since sending gears back to China isn't working as it should, I believe this thread would be very helpful, I hope that we all band together to grow the list in that topic.
3106  Bitcoin / Mining support / Where to fix your Asic miners. on: December 08, 2020, 12:02:06 AM
Shipping your mining gear back to China for repair isn't the best idea, shipping to and from China will cost a lot, or your miner could be "confiscated" by the manufacturer.

I thought there should be a list of good repair services that all miners can access locally based on their geographical location, this will ensure a cheaper shipping rate and a much faster repair process.

I will be updating the list regularly as information come by, if you have or know a repair service please share it here or send it to me via pm, I will try to do some basic research on all the services I list here, but you will deal with them at your own risk.

Inputs coming from trusted members of the mining community in Bitcointalk will be very helpful.



United States

Service: https://www.hmtech.co/services/
Prices: $150 for basic repairs - $300 for advanced (Based on my years of mining, most issues are basic)
City/State: North Carolina
First Mention by: philipma1957

Service: Bitmain Repair Service
City/State: NASHUA, NH
Address and more info: https://blog.bitmain.com/en/bitmain-announces-new-repair-site-in-new-hampshire-usa-to-support-more-customers/

Service:  Scott’s Crypto Mining
Prices: $50 diagnostics fee waived if repaired. Repair fee, $150 per board.
Address: 16520 La Vela Circle Upper, Brookfield, WI 53005
Website: https://repair.scottscryptomining.com/repair/

Service: Myrig
City/State: Denver, Colorado
More info : https://service.myrig.com/

** There was a negative review on Myrig, there are mixed reviews on this service, some clients are happy with their services, others are not, there are no "direct scam" reports against "myrig", but some members mentioned that they had to wait for months to get a reply from them, please read the reviews and decide for yourself.


Europe

-https://www.zeusbtc.com/Repair.asp
-Located in (The Netherlands and Georgia)

While ZeusBtc is a trusted company with a great reputation, the repair centers displayed on their home page are not owned by them.

Quote from: //www.zeusbtc.com/Repair.asp
Attention: The miner repair points shown on the map below are independent individuals. This site only offers a free display. Please contact the maintenance point for specific matters. If there is any dispute, please resolve it by negotiation. Any consequences will not be related to this site.

It's unlikely that someone will go to this extremes measure to scam, also since these providers are nearby, it would make sense that you could actually visit them in real life to confirm their integrity, while I wouldn't blindly trust them, I believe they are likely legit, but you MUST dyor.


** I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY LOSS/DELAY YOU MAY ENCOUNTER USING ANY OF THE SERVICES LISTED ABOVE, THIS TOPIC IS MAINTAIN FREELY AND BASED ON THE COMMUNITY REVIEWS, TRADE AT YOUR OWN RISK**.
3107  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Interested in Mining, doing due diligence, have some hardware questions. on: December 07, 2020, 09:02:01 PM
Buying new S17s brand new from Bitmain comes with an average failure rate of 30% (please pay attention to the word average), so buying a second-hand gear from Alibaba comes with even greater risk, you should avoid all the 17 series altogether.

What newbies do is the following, they go to whattomine.com or any mining calculator for that matter and enter their hashrate + power rate and they get a monthly profit of X in fiat. For example, they enter 10 cents per kWh , 110th, and 3500w ( the specs of S19 pro). The result will be :

Total = $15.56
Net profit after paying the power bill =$10.50

Gear cost = 4000, so ROI = 4000/10.50 = 380 days or just over a year, what's funny is that even some of these calculators will tell you that you need 380 days to return your investment, but this couldn't be further from the truth.

These calculators assume static price and difficulty, and this is never the case, there is no way that both difficulty and price will remain the same, but you might say, well this is totally random since they can go either way, so 380 days could be 100 days and can be 500 days.

Well, not really, on the scale of probability and based on historical data from the genesis block up to now, the difficulty only goes up when the timeframes considered are a few months and above, on the other hand, price doesn't do that all the time. so it isn't a 50/50 chance here, it's worse, think of it as your odds against the casino.

With that being said, even if the stars were aligned perfectly and you did manage to get back your $4000 in 380 days and then you sell it for $2000 thus making a profit of $2000, that total $6000 you end up with might not worth the btc that you spend today, so while you may manage to ROI in USD terms, you lose big time in BTC, this assumes your gear will still be profitable and you won't be forced to shut it down sooner and sell it for pretty cheap.

There is a lot more to it than just this, this post is just the summary of how calculating mining profit isn't as simple as these websites show you, I can go on forever but the short version of my story is if you can't ROI in a few months, you have better chances making more profit buying BTC directly rather than going into the rabbit hole of mining.

As for solar, phill will be your guy, he runs most of his gears on solar power and he probably knows best.
3108  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: كيفية إيقاف معاملة عبر تطبيق البلوكشين on: December 07, 2020, 08:36:32 PM
مش رقم محفظتي وللاسف المحفظة ناقصه 0.18               

                                 المفروض تكون ناقصه 0.8 فقط     

                                                 هل هناك اي طريقه لاستعادة العمله

ان كنت تريد ان نساعدك يجب عليك ان تهداء وتجاوب على الاسئلة, الاخ خالد سئلك سؤال محدد ( ماهي المحفظة التي تستخدمها)؟

بالنسبة لي 0.08496567 بتكوين التي تم تحويلها لي 1DppEPhySoSKfKP3RFoVJbaUXSbzLWQYr8 فهده خلاص راحت ولايمكن استرجاعها باي طريقة واي شخص يقول عكس هدا فهوا يااما نصاب او لا يفهم هدا المجال ابدا.

اما بالنسبة للباقي وهوا 0.10327963 فهوا على الاغلب لايزال يمكن الوصول اليه, فقط اعمل ريفريش للمحفظة ومن المفترض ان يظهر الرصيد
3109  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Multiple workers from single S9 on: December 06, 2020, 10:24:58 PM
What you want is parallel mining, it's a long story, the short version of it is "no".

What you can do instead is download AwesomeMiner, it's free since you have only 1 miner, and then use the change pool command based on time intervals and so you can achieve

Son 1 worker : 12AM to 12PM
Son 2 worker : 12PM to 12AM

You can do 6 hours each or any other combination, but try to switch pools as less frequently as possible since it results in a loss of some mining rewards.
3110  Local / منصات التبادل / Re: الميكر والتيكر on: December 06, 2020, 09:08:11 PM
شكرا على هذا التوضيح. فعلا هناك لخبطة كثيرة حول هاذين الكلمتين خصوصا أن بعض المنصات تفرض رسوما على هذه العمليات. كما تفرض كذلك رسوما على العروض التي تريد الغاؤها يعني مثلت وضعت عرض بيع او طلب شراء و و تريد الغاءه قبل ان يستعمله عضو اخر على نفس المنصة فانك ستضطر الى دفع رسوم شبيهة بالتي تدفعها حين وضع العرض.

لم استعمل في حياتي منصة تفرض عليك رسوم على اي order لم يتم شرائه\بيعه, اي منصة تفعل هدا فهيا منصة نصب واحتيال!

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فانه يجب معرفة أنو ليس جميع المنصات تفرض رسوما على عملية التداول في حد ذاتها بتصنيفك على أنك Taket أو Maker و تكتفي برسوم السحب.

ايضا لم ارى منصة تتيح التداول المجاني الا في حال كان هناك عرض مؤقت لجدب زبائن جدد او شي من هدا القبيل, مكسب المنصات من السحب قليل ولا يكفي ليكون مصدر دخل اي منصة محترمة, بالاضافة الى ان بعض العملات يمكن سحبها مجانا, والبعض الاخر تكون العمولة فيه شبه نفسها التي تدفعها المنصة لل miners يعني المصدر الرئيسي هوا عممولة ال maker and taker.
3111  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Rack Style Mining (AntRack) on: December 06, 2020, 07:53:59 PM
I'd really like to get an up-close look at the guts of one of these. Looks like they have one heat exchanger per hashboard instead of individually mounted heatsinks on each asic. That should make reliability an order of magnitude higher than the air-cooled ones.

The 19 series uses a single large heatsink that covers all chips, Microbt M20s and M30s have two heatsinks each covering about half of the chips, also, IIRC the heatsinks are not glued/soldered to the chips, they are attached using some screws, of course, it's more than likely that they put the thermal paste in between.

This one large heatsink instead of one heatsink per chip design looks like it's going to be the future for all miners to come.
3112  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Rack Style Mining (AntRack) on: December 06, 2020, 02:35:04 PM
Not that it is needed with prices of coins high.

Different scenarios require different set-ups, at times more of less-efficient hashrate makes you more profit than more-efficient but less total hashrate, this is one good thing about custom firmware, using Vnish and a management tool like awoesomeminer you can automate this process, you enter certain variables such as price, difficulty, your power rate and etc, and then the software will handle the efficiency profile based on what's the most profitable at any given time.

If bitmain wants to stop the usage of custom firmware, they should implement this in their new Antrack, at least 3 to 5 power modes should be there, I don't think it's all that difficult for them to implement.
3113  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history on: December 06, 2020, 01:38:18 PM
Bitmain doesn't really shame on their dirty ways of making money for the owners!    Angry

Indeed, I think they trapped him into sending his gear by quoting him an estimate of $30 to fix his S17+, what kind of a fix would bitmain put their staff on for $30  Undecided, anyway, people should look for alternative ways to fix their gears, check zeusbtc or ask other forum members about workshops that are specialized in mining, phill knows a few in the U.S he perhaps should make a dedicated topic in regards to that.
3114  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Interested in Mining, doing due diligence, have some hardware questions. on: December 05, 2020, 09:10:56 PM
I usually ignore such questions since really almost all the information you need can be found around the forum, but you seem very serious and you put quite a lot of effort into asking your questions.

The sad truth is that it isn't a great idea to consider mining with the power rates you have, even your lowest tier rate is high, let alone the 3rd tier of 14 cents, while power rate isn't the only thing that separates a successful mining business from a losing one - it still is the most essenital factor, mining, in a nutshell, is competing with thousands of other miners around the globe.

It is pretty safe to assume that the average power cost for large mining farms is 4 cents, let's be "optimistic" and say its 5 cents per kWh, so your odds are terrible, and the chances that your miner will die before you hitting ROI are very high, now one mistake many miners do is focus on the fiat value of mining to determine a succesful business plan, there is no doubt that even with 14c kwh you might make $5000 out of the $4000 you invest in S19 pro, but this isn't how to look at it.

$4000 is 0.21BTC, are you going to make 0.21btc before your power bill surpasses your earnings or before the miner is dead? hard to tell, but unlikely.

Are you 100% guaranteed not to make a profit? of course not, miracles do happen, China might ban mining altogether or a hurricane hits 10-20 large farms in China making your S19pro 5 times more profitable, but you don't want to bet against the odds, at least not while making a business plan for your retirement.
3115  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history on: December 05, 2020, 05:53:49 PM
1. We will apply for equal coupon compensation for you based on the current market value of the second hands miners; the coupon value is 1127usd

They are lying to you, used S17+ go for above $1500, for $1127 you can only get S17-56th.

4. We can also help you contact the buyer, and sell the coupons in your hand at 90% of the coupon price, so that you can get the corresponding USD or BTC;

Point number 4 is really funny, they want to persuade you to sell them the miner at a much cheaper rate, nobody is going to pay 90%, they will be that "buyer" so (1127-30$)*0.9 = $987.3, also expect a 5-10% less with an excuse of bitcoin price is lower on the exchange they use. Undecided

Sorry that this is happening to you man, Bitmain is indeed a terrible company to deal with. Embarrassed
3116  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Rack Style Mining (AntRack) on: December 05, 2020, 01:31:10 AM
I believe the S19 pro will do a lot better than these numbers, the stock efficiency for S17 Pro is 39.5 W/T,  the stock values for the S19 pro is 29.5W/T, if Vnish can turn 39.5w to 26w then it should do a lot better in tuning 29.5w to below 20 range, anyway it won't be too long till we find out, I believe in a one to two months Vnish for S19pro should be ready.
3117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2020, 01:09:39 AM
13.4k?!  I'm glad to see you took your hat off before making this post  Wink

Never really had one to wear  Cry Cry

13.4K is the ultimate bear scenario, eventually, we will HAVE to make a major correction down to the 20MA on the weekly, we have gone up 100% without any major correction, these corrections that happen every time will pretty much happen soon, and they are 25-35% easily, so it's up to the market as of when to take that dive, if it isn't 19.5k to 13.5k (30%) then it will be 22k to 15.5k, or 26k to 18k, the point here is that major corrections will have to happen and weak hands will panic and sell, so it's good to know that a drop of 25-35% is very likely and is very normal on the way up.

Now if you are a long-term investor, this shouldn't really mean much to you, these corrections happen so fast (2-3 weeks) and the market takes about the same duration to recover to where it tanked from, but if you are a trader waiting for good entries then placing buy orders near the 20MA on the weekly is almost always a perfect entry point.

With that being said, don't attempt to short bitcoin. Grin.

3118  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2020, 12:26:33 AM
Wonder how low we gonna go...




$13400-$14000 would be my "guess".

3119  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: December 04, 2020, 10:13:22 PM
Here is an interesting read https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/84781/bulk-preorders-bitcoin-miners-spring-2021

This is the most important part:

We are still working hard to try to get more chip capacity from Samsung to satisfy more preorders for future stocks," the MicroBT spokesperson said in a WeChat message. Bitmain, on the other hand, sources silicon chips from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC)

My guess is that both TSMC and Samsung don't see mining as a sustainable long-term business, so it would make sense that these silicon providers will favor supplying other businesses, Bitmain vs Apple Nvidia or AMD is a clear lost-competition, and then we have Intel who has now turned to TSMC.

Here is another interesting article https://www.supercryptonews.com/bitmain-introduces-smaller-5nm-chip-with-new-mining-rig/

In short: Mining manufacturers can't get their hands on enough chips - Great news to all miners who already have mining gears bought at decent prices, the difficulty should stay within the 20T-25T range up until mid-2021 unless bitcoin price goes past 40-50k whereby the average joe can fire up his S7 and S5 then we MAY go to 30-35T, and keep in mind that difficulty of 25T with Bitcoin price at 18-20k is much better than how things were post halving, so the majority of miners should be mining happily for months to come.
3120  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoins in 2030 on: December 04, 2020, 08:52:07 PM
1.5625 BTC as rewards for those who run the nudesnodes.

Running a bitcoin "node" doesn't earn you anything, the mining rewards go to "mining nodes" and given the current nature of mining, at least 90% of the rewards go to people who don't even know how to run a node.

Now back to your question, exactly a year back I posted this thread called "For how long can we actually mine", I tried to evaluate the future of mining and what should bitcoin be worth in order to

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1- Mining to be as profitable as it is today.
2- The incentives for mining remains the same.
3- Mining decentralization does not fade away.
4- 51% attack cost / difficulty does not decrease.

And this came out:



This ignores the "unknown" block fees (So the "required" price is less than what shows in that table) because we don't know how will bitcoin be 10 or 20 years from now, are you going to increase block size to meet mass adoption on-chain or are we just going to keep the blockchain exclusive for huge final-settlements that are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in order to fuel the mining incentives with a small block size?

I tend to agree that the second theory will be more likely, I also seem to prefer that approach (for reasons that are off-topic), but all in all, Bitcoin price is essential to its existence or at least to its securty and reliability.

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