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Deadley- If you have been gambling 7 or 8 years then you know the percentage of books that have gone under without lasting a year. Most of them go under or are complete scams. This goes for fiat as well as bitcoin. Pinnacle, 5 Dimes and CRIS have been around a long time.
All of the other rating sites had some of their top books go under. It's better to be cautious. The credibility of the ratings is ruined when top books go under. "B-" and above are recommended.
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I think anoni deserved to be #1, at least I used it and had no problems but I havent tried all posrt books so I can't say there arent any better than anonibet.
Only Nitrogen deserve number spot for now, only that book who don't have much complaint except some downtime because of maintenance, Peeps gave Anonibet top spot just only 1 reason because they are oldest book, and I don't understand why he is using this criteria, I am playing on sports book last 7-8 years but never saw this kind of stupid rating that book will be on top because they are oldest. It can be one of the some criteria points but not only points to be rated top. Peeps just show me one rating where only this rule applying for giving rating. I wasn't the one that suggested putting a time table on ratings. Someone else suggested it and I thought it was a good idea after seeing some of what most thought were good books, such as Blockbet and Bit365 go under. I do appreciate your input and that from others as this can always be changed. |
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Is there a way to lock this thread or make it self moderated. I want to start a self moderated thread in which only books would be moderated.
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We can't read the threads of each book daily. This thread was intended so that matters with all books could be brought to our attention. We need input from posters to do this. The thread has alerted players to 4 scam books before they went under. Players have been paid here because the dispute between book and player was brought to this thread.
DirectBet is not going to turn this into his personal thread and has been deleted from the ratings.
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Can you go into more reasoning over why you are giving Anonibet A-? As legend_ points out, there are some suspicious circumstances that makes it possible to conclude that they may be shady / scamming. I am not judging right now, but you should investigate and update ratings if appropriate.
A downdgrade will be reconsidered if another instance arises. I'm not trying to avoid your question but I'm not sure what happened with the contest. I contacted both Michael and John Barnes. Then I read the facebook pages. I don't want to play spokesman for Anonibet so I'm going to leave their rating as it is right now. The same goes for DirectBet. |
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I'm not going to change the ratings on DirectBet or Anonibet since there hasn't been enough posters speaking up to warrant it. Jetwin will get an upgrade.
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I'm gonna have to say cloudbet is the easiest sportsbook to use!!! Anonibet has been around forever so they are my backup, book
Thanks for the input. |
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This poster here registered July 28th. Many backing DirectBet have just registered. Your claim that they just signed up to back us is another false accusation. why do you make this stuff up? read the quotes again. It's an observation that many people backing you have just signed up. I didn't say it was the sole reason for them signing up. They are just new to this thread and swayed by your posts. |
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I think that the most important thing is that the top rated books are strong books and the bottom rated books are stealing our money. This has been a community effort. I've been alerted to many things and I hope it continues.
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I give you credit for that !
If you remember, when all this started back in April I specifically stated that you are doing a good job of alerting people from scams thanks |
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DirectBet- Go look at every other rating site. The top books have gone under. Fortunately with input from the posters, that hasn't happened here. The top books are good books and you are wrong to criticize. All the "B-" and above are very strong. The top books at other rating sites will continue to go under.
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)
"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
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I didn't want the bet 7 minutes later. I don't want you to give me the odds. I want firm odds at the time I place the bet as it is with every other legitimate book. If you would just pipe down we can listen to what others have to say so that a fair assessment can be made. Your words don't mean a thing at this point.
Remember when you said that Livebets didn't pay me and that was the reason for their D- rating. You showed me where Ryan had them rated as the 3rd highest book. Livebets went under with player's funds shortly after that.
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Name: BtcVegas
Posts: 18
Activity: 14
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: July 28, 2014, 03:22:11 PM |
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I have no stake in the matter but have to agree with DirectBet here. They don't withhold any bets, I understand it to be the Bitcoin system itself that sometimes delays me obtaining back my bets or winnings. For live play, I agree there are some issues because you can never get your bet in for the time you want it with the odds you want. But, DirectBet is totally honest about everything they do and I've never seen anything shady by them so I don't see how you can lower their rating.
Thanks for the input. If people like you speak up it helps the ratings. With me the problem wasn't on the part of DirectBet, but with the blockchain that held my bet for 7 minutes and I couldn't cancel my bet. |
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DirectBet- Your reply seems to be a problem with me. You have to put out fires on a daily basis in your thread. Can you dispute anything that was written concerning your book or are all the problems valid?
Do any others have opinions? I'll wait some time but without valid objections, Anonibet will remain "A", Jetwin will be upgraded to "C" and DirectBet downgraded to "C-".
Current Ratings:
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)
"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
betxcp
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
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Please post any input that you have on the above listed books. Also, input from other books will help us. I can't remember a thread besides this one, where warnings were given about 4 books and all 4 books went under. Posters are the ones that first posted the problems in this thread and then they were looked in to.
DirectBet - I know that you are going to be in here with many repetitive posts. It's been asked by myself and others that this thread be for the posters. We want books to enter but talk about their own book. Feel free to bash me but please keep your conversation to your own book and not others. All books abide by this rule except for you.
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I feel that a couple of books should be upgraded or downgraded. Tomorrow I will throw them out for public opinion of suggested upgrades and downgrades.
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DirectBet questioned the validity of this thread so here are a couple of quotes from this thread. Some of these books asked to advertise at peepsplace.com and were told, "no". The only thing keeping StakeBTC from being a "F", because of that bonus, is that they haven't had one complaint as far as payouts.
I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case. I'm not going to put Coinbet on our recommended list at this time. BitBook C (Problems from DDoS attack. Do not deposit at this time |
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If anyone here still has any doubt that Peeps Place is Skipper2, please let me know and I'll show you.
Peeps Place came here hiding behind his Skipper2 account in an attempt to discredit this ratings guide, spread chaos and destroy the ratings.
He was doing it because this has become the leading ratings guide and his own "ratings guide" no longer has any creditability after we revealed that his ratings are paid for.
Lies again. You asked me to send PM's sent to skipper and I showed them to you. Can you just stop. |
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