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3101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 06, 2017, 03:25:10 PM
Check the free airdrop coin price and then shout again for scam scam. Grin
It's not free and it never was. Even with the old rules you had to participate in the signature campaign to get anything. And with the new rules you have to buy very expensive onions to get an interest back. The devs know this and they changed the rules in such a way that >>>>>>>>50% of the onions will stay with the founding team.
3102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: December 06, 2017, 01:11:30 PM
Ponzi is in full swing now, it is cleverly done, but still obvious.

According to DO they gain 500 new members each week. This means each of them has to buy 100 of an otherwise worthless premined coin.

This makes it 500 x 100 x 3.10$ = 155kUS$ each week in free income for the anonymous "developers" while the price is still artificially driven higher and lemming growth increases as well. Wondering if they pay tax on it Wink.

Trading volume is significantly up now, meaning the dump of premined coins has already begun. The threshold to trigger this appears to have been a price of 2.5$ per coin.

Strong basic math there, but I don't see what your actual point is? Surely if this 'dump' had begun the price would be on the decline rather than increasing? Surely and influx in sell orders, then basic economics would say supply outweighs demands and the price falls?

You mention 'artificially driven higher', but don't mention how.

I'm not having a go at you, I just want to understand your point of view and why you are saying these things.

As someone that's part of the community, I can assure you that the dev team and those around them have been nothing but approachable, transparent and helpful. It's genuinely a great, active, community with really really dedicated people.
Low volume makes wash trading insanely easy. Especially if you control far more than 50% of the supply, which the dev team does (without taking the airdrop bags into account).
3103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.10.0 on: December 06, 2017, 01:08:31 PM
does not it seem that this product is aimed at teenagers who are addicted to memes? Smiley
Are you trying to imply that memes aren't an integral part of contemporary culture?
3104  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2017, 12:26:15 PM
The weal bitcoin bcash is going the wong way. woger yu told me moon

What should worry us is where it is going once BTC crashes

I doubt many of "us" (here at least) would care.

If there is massive FUD in BTC I doubt BCash remains over $1000.

Well, we are parabolic, so won't need FUD. Maybe this time we are in an S curve but not sure.
Assume we go down to 4-5k and lots of the parabolic money move to BCH as a safe heaven, then it won't be hard to catch BTC anymore
There are much better coins to move into as a "safe haven" when BTC corrects than BCash. Why even risk it?
3105  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 10:30:58 PM
No mansion for me, more like a a hobbit house

but off the grid, hell yeah


You saying that because you don't have enough bitcoins or because you don't want to draw attention to yourself?


By the way, we all gonna be fucked if prices reach $111k, so better have enough coins.

I mean, we gonna be so fucked in the head from RICHes that we gonna have some difficulties figuring out spending, diversification, security.. and some fucking ass new standards that are out of our regular comfort zone... so gotta kind of tentatively start planning, so we not be so shocked...

currently, i'd have... uh... about 1k USD if the price went to 111k. by all means, let the price climb... just, slowly, ok? let me trade and accumulate a bit.

i swear, an illegal loan shark is looking more and more tempting these days...
What kind of interest do they charge? lol
3106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 10:21:28 PM
Guys, just hanging at these levels is freaking amazing.

When we broke up out of the year long log channel it could have been a blow off spike...but it's not.

Sure, it will go up and down...but 11K is a reality now.  We have been up here for 3 days, and the volatility isn't even that bad, just slowly melting up.
3 days? It felt like two weeks to me. Damn I have no sense for time.

Time dilation happens when you are traveling at the speed of Bitcoin Cheesy
Does time even exist anymore? Bitcoin is faster than light!
3107  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 09:55:20 PM
Guys, just hanging at these levels is freaking amazing.

When we broke up out of the year long log channel it could have been a blow off spike...but it's not.

Sure, it will go up and down...but 11K is a reality now.  We have been up here for 3 days, and the volatility isn't even that bad, just slowly melting up.
3 days? It felt like two weeks to me. Damn I have no sense for time.
3108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: December 05, 2017, 09:46:17 PM
is there big update ? the price is very good today !!

If it hits bittrex before the end of the year, then its an easy 30 - 40 cents


they'll release their testnet at the beginning of next year, which is more important I think. 30 cents by christmas seems achievable
I hope it'll stay put until after the Waves pump finished. New wallet/dex and the new Waves NG platform are coming out next week and on the 20th respectively, so I'm expecting huge gains from this sleeper. Hoping to rebalance some of those profits into SONM at low prices.
3109  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 09:22:35 PM
I just checked Coinmarketcap and they say it's over 10kEUR. Bitcoinaverage, whom I trust more, say it's only 9990EUR.

Do we consider this landmark reached?

Well, average has crossed a few times, but both Kraken and Stamp not yet. So for me, the landmark is not reached yet.

I think that there is a natural tendency for humans to 'cash out' at human-friendly prices. So I expect a fair amount of hodl > sodl at 10K Euro. Accordingly, perhaps the relevant question is not when we reach 10K, but rather when we leave it in the rearview.
Aren't you supposed to be a bear?

Said who? You need to quit stereotyping people animals. If you don't it'll turn you into a social pariah someday.
Your bench selfie. Or are you one of those genderfluid unicorns? Tongue
3110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you surprise by bitcoin price now? on: December 05, 2017, 09:12:05 PM
I was a little bit surprise when had reached the 10000 dollari each, but now this is normal and it is in a situation that after this rise can only keep this high value.
It can also go back down like it did in 2013. I doubt it will, but it's not impossible.
3111  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Tips for Beginners on: December 05, 2017, 09:11:26 PM
it's a vast area that you can not recognize at a time or by one article, but if you make an effort and try to teach, then you can become an excellent trader Wink
You can only learn the things related to that of trading if you are willing to learn those things and you actually are interested in doing so by yourself. Otherwise, there is no possible way of learning the things related to that of trading. You actually need to put in lot of efforts in the beginning, only then you can enjoy the sweet fruit of your hard work. Moreover, reading the articles related to trading and taking guidance can greatly serve the purpose.
I would take a few weeks at the very least, better a few months off to study indicators and technical analysis before trading even a single penny.
3112  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin better than stocks, real-estate? on: December 05, 2017, 09:09:23 PM
In the traditional investment systems  there are areas like stock exchange, real estates, commodity market, forex market. Then there are hedge funds, mutual funds, equity, debentures. Next in line are precious metals like Gold, silver, diamond. Years after year and decades after decades when mainstream economics was convincing people that how one of above is better than other as it is giving returns in the range of 8% to 9% at max 10-13% a new revolution named bitcoin is rising and spreading across the world. Bitcoin has defied all conventional knowledge about return on interest. Surviving each negative publicity and doubts, incidents like mt. gox and still growing better than ever.

What do you think why bitcoin is the best investment than stocks, real-estate, gold or any other conventional investment?

You anwered your question youeself. BTC&Crypto have big advantage: its dynamic and volatility. For me, it is a plus. But for some investors, it is bad. For example, imagine, you have a business. You worked hard for a long time and now your goal is to save your capital. Would you invest in crypto?


Volatility is nice if you want to actively trade. Or if you don't care about swings while investing for the long run. Most people don't have the balls to ride the waves though. Tongue
3113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Litecoin - a lite version of Bitcoin. Launched! on: December 05, 2017, 09:05:40 PM
We will see LTC at $400 in Q2 of 2018. Screenshot this.
What do you base that prediction on?
3114  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next 5 year for Bitcoin on: December 05, 2017, 08:41:13 PM
The number of BTC is fixed and it is 21M. each transaction has to be verified by Miners in order for it to be a valid transaction. Mining is very costly process and in return Miners get a reward with BTC. The difficulty of mining is getting higher and higher. My doubt is when we reach the limit of 21M, the difficulty of mining might be very costly and what if miners are no more interested in mining. Who will be there to verify transactions. Let's say however we hit the limit of 21M and then there is nothing to mine and then who is going to verify the transaction.


If miners leave mining that is fine, then difficulty goes down and it becomes more profitable for those that still mine. That's not a problem. Also the 21M limit won't be hit for many decades.
As far as I'm aware the difficulty takes a very long time to adjust downwards, unlike the very quick upward adjustments. So miners disappearing could cause a big problem. Don't quote me on this though, as I'm not 100% certain about this.
I personally think that we should also consider the other costs of mining, e.g., electricity, cost of hardware. When it becomes harder to mine, it may also become harder for stand alone miners to survive against those who rents aircraft hangers to mine. Because at some point, it may become unreasonable for small miners to mine if it will not bring any profit to them. That's my opinion Smiley
That's why I don't recommend mining for profits to beginners or low net worth individuals.
3115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Top upcoming ICO with greatest potential on: December 05, 2017, 08:20:48 PM
The best ICO with great potential is WorkPress - WPX

Currently it is in Pre-sale stage.

50% Bonus in Pre-sale.

Supply is only 80,000,000

Very reasonable HardCap of 26,650 ETH


https://www.workpress.tech
Did you even check the website? It's cancelled.
3116  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you do to calm down you're anger? on: December 05, 2017, 08:18:41 PM
Footing until sweating and knee pain. I think it's the easiest and most peaceful way to calm down and it's always good to do sports!
What is footing? Can't find it on Google either. Huh
3117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best crypto to buy now? on: December 05, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
Hi - Newbie here..I would like to put down 1000 USD next week.. What would your advice be to me?
confidently ETHEREUM invest now for long term investment ,
because its price is much lower now and be ready for next year.you'll
never know the price would get double or much higher.being the most
promising alt its not impossible for ethereum to make us richer like
bitcoin
I still feel like there are better options than Ethereum right now. All the ICOs push the price of Ethereum down, so it's hard for it to go up quickly without very large amounts of new users.
3118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH target 1000$ in ending of this year on: December 05, 2017, 08:14:30 PM
i think its hard for Eth to reach 1000$ this year..maybe next year i believe!

I also do not believe that ETH can so quickly become expensive. Moreover, now there are problems with the network. That worries me. At the end of the year this coin will cost a maximum of 600 dollars
What problems are you talking about? I moved some ETH around quite quickly today, didn't pay attention to the fees though.
3119  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 08:13:46 PM
I just checked Coinmarketcap and they say it's over 10kEUR. Bitcoinaverage, whom I trust more, say it's only 9990EUR.

Do we consider this landmark reached?

Well, average has crossed a few times, but both Kraken and Stamp not yet. So for me, the landmark is not reached yet.

I think that there is a natural tendency for humans to 'cash out' at human-friendly prices. So I expect a fair amount of hodl > sodl at 10K Euro. Accordingly, perhaps the relevant question is not when we reach 10K, but rather when we leave it in the rearview.
Aren't you supposed to be a bear?
3120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥Tokugawa Coin 🔥 Japanese Masternode 🔥1000% ROI🔥Buy in ICO on: December 05, 2017, 08:10:32 PM
Again, scams are literally designed to be profitable to the people who run them. So you making profits is completely irrelevant.
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