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31181  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: June 01, 2016, 04:25:44 PM
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I noticed you are using an old numbered list to attempt to create even more confusion.....

If these questions are not settled, it isn't okay for you to just move on.  And they're not.  Don't worry, all of your ten questions can be easily debunked.

Now, what about that rather laughable "free fall speed?"  Let's hear where and how exactly you get to that conclusion?   Because it sure isn't obvious from the seismic record.  That shows relatively low levels for ten seconds, then fifteen seconds of heavy impacts.  Maybe you think stuff from the top of the building show impact first, then last of all stuff from the bottom?  

Come on, let's hear the Truther view.  Because I don't see how a calculation of "free fall time" using the absolute tip of the WTC has any relation to a collapse of the whole thing from the 78th floor.

Re run a couple of those old propaganda movies like Loose Change, and get yourself an answer and present it.

The free-fall-speed question can be answered in a very easy way.

Grab a rock that will fit in you hand... not a big one... maybe only 5 pounds weight. Then drop the rock from, say, 10 feet high, and accurately time its fall to the ground through the air. Then do the same thing in 10 feet of water. Notice that the rock falls much slower through 10 feet of water than it does through 10 feet of air.

Air offers very little resistance to a falling rock. Water offers more. Attached steel beams and girders of a building offer a lot more. The near free fall speed of the Towers, and especially Bldg. 7, is not logical with the resistance offered by beams and girders to slow the speed down, except that the beam and girder strength was removed first... by demolition explosives.

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EDIT: I want to thank you again, Spendy, for helping us to more clearly state in easily understandable ways, how 9/11 was an inside job. Sometimes I wonder what you really believe, and if you aren't purposely setting us up so that we can more easily prove the 9/11 inside job.
31182  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 01, 2016, 04:12:42 PM
BADecker, let me ask you a serious question. If you are so happy with the status quo and hate intellectual progress so much, why are you on a Bitcoin forum anyway?
Well, I should think that the answer would be intellectually obvious. I don't hate intellectual progress, and I am not happy with the status quo.

Tearing down the knowledge that we have of God, and replacing it with science-theory-as-fact is not intellectual progress. In case you haven't noticed, this is the thing that is being, and has been for a long time, done in many schools. Rather, let's find out more about God instead of trying to bury the idea that He exists.


I hate the religious government that I live under, constantly oppressed by people that think like you do. They are unwilling to change quickly and don't mind crushing any belief that differs from their own.
You would rather trade the truth that God exists for the fantasy that science theory which has not been proven factual is indeed fact? You want to take a religion that is based in truth, and replace it with one that is not known to be truth. Looks like you are simply asking for problems worse than those you have already.


I have a gay friend that is pleased that America is slowly accepting him and his monogamist relationship of 16 years.
At best, homosexuality is an illness. at worst, it is a damning, perverted lifestyle. It serves no practical purpose. One can have good friends of the same sex without treating them as one would treat a spouse. Homosexuality is one of the things that is destroying America.


I'm just the opposite. I'm ashamed that it takes Americans so long to accept any change and hate the fact that he and his spouse would still be beaten to death in the Christian Deep South for their lifestyle. I'm just glad we no longer believe the earth is flat and burning black people on a cross is almost a thing of the past, almost.

I am ashamed it is taking America as long as it is to recognize the perversion in homosexuality, and many other things. When the people can take it no longer, they will outlaw it forcefully.

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Christians and their god are filled with so much hate. Been to any good cross burnings lately?

Actually, it is YOU who are looking through hate-filled eyes so much, that you can't see anything but the hate in yourself.

Generally speaking, it is not the idea of Christians to be against homosexuality. It is God's idea.

Why be against Homosexuality?

1. It serves no purpose. There is ONE reason for sexuality. That is to produce offspring. Super-great friendship can exist without homosexuality. Homosexuality is a perversion of life.

2. Since homosexuality is a non-natural perversion, the people who practice it are corrupted. Their corruption doesn't make them be any less people. Rather, it is simply a fault of their system that should be controlled, like shoplifting, or murdering, etc.

3. There is a fine line between living a life that is against the things that God commands, and, losing salvation, or not, because of it. Salvation is most important, because it is for eternity. This life is short. Move away from all kinds of sinning, especially the sin of not believing Jesus salvation, so that there will be eternal salvation. All sinning weakens faith in Jesus salvation. Living a lifestyle that is against God is a continual weakening of the faith.

4. Christians who are not considerate of the the spiritually weak condition of homosexual people, are doing wrong. Rather, Christians should attempt to show homosexuals that they are turning themselves against God by practicing homosexuality, and that the practice may even lead them to eternal damnation. This, btw, is all that I am trying to do. So, it is love of homosexuals that I am promoting, rather than hate.

5. Homosexual perversion should not become a norm. It invites the young and weak willed people to try it. We don't need such perversion among our people.

6. There will come a time that God will not put up with this kind of perversion in a nation. There will be national punishment for it, besides the punishment that each individual, corrupted person gets. Let's keep the nation strong and out from under the wrath of God. Turn away from all wickedness, not only the wicked corruption of homosexuality.

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31183  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 01, 2016, 03:21:23 PM
BADecker, let me ask you a serious question. If you are so happy with the status quo and hate intellectual progress so much, why are you on a Bitcoin forum anyway?
Well, I should think that the answer would be intellectually obvious. I don't hate intellectual progress, and I am not happy with the status quo.

Tearing down the knowledge that we have of God, and replacing it with science-theory-as-fact is not intellectual progress. In case you haven't noticed, this is the thing that is being, and has been for a long time, done in many schools. Rather, let's find out more about God instead of trying to bury the idea that He exists.


I hate the religious government that I live under, constantly oppressed by people that think like you do. They are unwilling to change quickly and don't mind crushing any belief that differs from their own.
You would rather trade the truth that God exists for the fantasy that science theory which has not been proven factual is indeed fact? You want to take a religion that is based in truth, and replace it with one that is not known to be truth. Looks like you are simply asking for problems worse than those you have already.


I have a gay friend that is pleased that America is slowly accepting him and his monogamist relationship of 16 years.
At best, homosexuality is an illness. at worst, it is a damning, perverted lifestyle. It serves no practical purpose. One can have good friends of the same sex without treating them as one would treat a spouse. Homosexuality is one of the things that is destroying America.


I'm just the opposite. I'm ashamed that it takes Americans so long to accept any change and hate the fact that he and his spouse would still be beaten to death in the Christian Deep South for their lifestyle. I'm just glad we no longer believe the earth is flat and burning black people on a cross is almost a thing of the past, almost.

I am ashamed it is taking America as long as it is to recognize the perversion in homosexuality, and many other things. When the people can take it no longer, they will outlaw it forcefully.

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31184  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: June 01, 2016, 10:18:52 AM
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HAHAHA Good one.

Theists may pray for me. I will think for them!



God organizes your thinking according to the prayers of the theists.    Cool

You have a God Complex.  Grin   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex

+1

Finally, we have a diagnosis for BADecker !!!

All religiotards have it and don't even know it.


Actually, God is the only thing holding everybody alive. I simply know about it a little better than many others.

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31185  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stateless societies and bitcoin on: June 01, 2016, 10:11:44 AM
It's difficult to imagine a stateless society, but there are plenty of stateless people. Guys like me who have left their native country, with no plan to go back, and no desire to become a citizen in any other place. BTC is made for us.

Great words! I wish I can be a stateless person one time. That's giving you a very good feeling of freedom I guess.

Although most of us are not stateless people at least we have stateless money.  )


Well, what is a state?

If you go to the border between two States of the USA, often you can't tell where the border is. For example, on the border between Arizona and New Mexico, there are places where the only thing that defines the border is a fence. And sometimes it isn't a very good fence. The land looks exactly the same on both sides of the fence.

The point is, what is a state/State, since there often seems to be no difference between states? Isn't a "state" really a state of mind? In the case of the border between Arizona and New Mexico, the land has been measured through surveying methods, the measurements have been written down, and the government keeps written record of the measurements.

The reason why governments write everything down is, people would forget, and the "states" would dissolve after a while. With things written down, people can go to the written records, and remind themselves of what their "state" of mind is supposed to be.

A second point is, none of us has memorized everything written in a particular government. This means that each person really has a "state" that is different from the state of everyone else. However, even if there were a bunch of people who had memorized all the writings of the State that they live in, no two of them would have exactly the same thinking about any of it. We all live in different "states."

We are all ignorant liars. Why? We say that we live in a certain State, when what is really happening is that there are multitudes of states (as many states as there are individual people) that often have the same name. For example. Every last person who says he lives in the State of Arizona has a different state of mind about it than everyone else who says that he lives in the State of Arizona.

We all really need to think things out before we ask or answer questions like this.

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31186  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you FREE? on: June 01, 2016, 09:52:49 AM
first you gotta define "free" and "freedom" because everybody sees and feels it differently.

and to answer your questions, yes i do feel completely free. even though i have a day job my time is super flexible and i don't feel babysitted

Your feeling of being free is artificial. But, if you didn't feel free, but felt enslaved, that would be artificial as well.

Nobody is free except in one tiny area. That area has to do with how much faith in God he is freely willing to let himself have. Then, God takes the faith and adjusts all of life, including thinking, to match the faith of the person.

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Sounds like god has a faithometer and heaven is hierarchical just like here. cool! can't wait... more enslavement.



Enslavement is here, not in Heaven. You are a slave to needing air to breathe, water to drink, food to eat, etc.  Yet, because of the way you are built, those enslaving properties are the things that give you freedom if you have them.

You don't have the freedom to simply jump to the moon. But isn't this a good thing? Think of how many dead people there would be if we all had the ability to jump to the moon. People would die from exposure to the hostile environment of space. So, not having the freedom to jump to the moon is more like having the freedom to live a while longer.

Once you understand what freedom really is, then you might start to consider that cause and effect controls EVERY LAST THING IN YOUR LIFE, even your thinking, and the thing that you call free will. Way down deep in your soul, God has provide you with a touch of freedom. The only thing that you do in your freedom area is to decide on how strongly you are in favor of God. God controls the rest through cause and effect, based on your faith in Him, and, since He made everything, His free will which is truly free.

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31187  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 01, 2016, 09:34:26 AM
True science that follows the scientific method cannot prove or disprove God. It cannot now, and never will. Why? The same reason you cannot fly. Your not designed to fly, and science isn't designed to prove God.
When you get right down to ultimate absolutes, nobody can prove that this forum exists, or that anyone is posting in it.

In the standard world of science, I have shown over and over two of the simple ways that science proves that God exists. Nobody is required to accept standard science.


Science is great, but like most things people can and do abuse it.This is when something called pseudoscience pops up. Pseudoscience to the untrained eye looks and feels just like science, but isn't really because it doesn't adhere to the scientific method.

Most of the time people make genuine mistakes, but not in BADlogic's case. He knows full well it's pseudoscience, yet continues to lie. This should give you a red warning flag straight away.
Now, Fluffer. You know that you are contradicting yourself all over the place by saying these things.


As for is a big deal if we believe in God or not. Well I guess that's up to the individual, but from Gods point of view is it a big deal? Science cannot answer that for you, nor can the circular logic based "the bible is the word of God, because bible says so" fallacy book.
Why not use your logic?
Does God give preference to one band of religious followers than another? No.
Does God give preference to those that worship him? No.
Does God give preference to atheists? No.

This only leaves us with two logical conclusions:
Either God doesn't exist, or God doesn't care what you believe in.

Take your pick.


This is where your logic is wrong.

First, science proves God exists.

Second, the miraculous existence of the Bible shows that it was made by God, and is far greater than any other book.

Third, the Bible shows the way to eternal life that science can't really begin to show.

Fourth, because scientists would rather believe science theory often more than science fact, science has become a faulty religion.

Wake up, Fluffer, while you still have time.

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31188  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 01, 2016, 09:20:23 AM
BADlogic's scientific proof never passed the peer review stage, by both athiests and thiests. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Badecker never had to respond to logical nonbelievers.

Since the logical nonbelievers don't have a logical rebuttal to the proof that God exists, there is nothing to respond to.

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maybe, but and it is really a big deal if anyone doesn't believed in God and does not also believed in a creator for the existence of everything.  Then where did we came from? From nothing that turned into a bubble and expanded into a big boom and there we were at.  Who the someone did that bubble?

If this mess was actually created by something instead of being a random accident, then the creator is either an incredible fuck up or a sadistic piece of shit. I don't feel quite like worshipping either option.

Without knowing what happened, you can't be sure of this. For example, if you had never seen or heard of a volcano, and then you came upon one, it would take some time for you to figure out what caused the disruption and destruction. Our natural knowledge of the universe is so limited that we can't begin to understand what went on in the past.

Just as an example, we are now finding that the stars are not nuclear, but rather are electric in nature. Since we are just finding this out now, how are we ever going to really even guess what happened in the messed up universe? Google "electric universe" or "electric cosmos."

Another example. If the world had wiped itself out in WWII, and there were only a handful of people left on some outlying islands, and if they had never heard or seen the devastation produced by modern war-making, what would they imagine if they saw Great Britain and Germany at the end of WWII? They certainly would not know who were the good guys and who were the bad.

Since science shows that everything has been produced by cause and effect, and pure random has not been proven to exist anywhere naturally, we really can't even begin to guess at the way the universe really operates through all the cause and effect. After all, we only know about 6 or 8 dimensions clearly, another 6 or 8 somewhat clearly, and the existence of another, say, 14 or 16, when there could be an infinity of them. And they are part of our universe.

The point is, we might as well forget science and math and turn back to agriculture and making a better life for ourselves. Even quantum computing can't begin to figure the universe out.

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31189  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 01, 2016, 09:05:25 AM
BADlogic's scientific proof never passed the peer review stage, by both athiests and thiests. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Badecker never had to respond to logical nonbelievers.

Since the logical nonbelievers don't have a logical rebuttal to the proof that God exists, there is nothing to respond to.

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maybe, but and it is really a big deal if anyone doesn't believed in God and does not also believed in a creator for the existence of everything.  Then where did we came from? From nothing that turned into a bubble and expanded into a big boom and there we were at.  Who the someone did that bubble?

This is a reasonable point. Some day science will find something that shows that Big Bang was impossible. Right now there are at least 3 solid forms of BB Theory. This shows that science doesn't know for a fact that BB was real.

Evolution from inanimate materials to life is mathematically impossible. It is so firmly impossible that we don't have any logical way to even begin to show how something like evolution could even start to be possible. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0.

When you combine the scientific facts of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, you get a result that says that God exists. If God didn't exist, at least one of these 3 scientific facts would have to NOT exist as well. Since they all exist, God MUST exist.

All our machinery, chemistry and physics comes from what we see in nature. We build our machinery based on nature and what we find in nature. Nature still has natural machinery that is greater than anything that we can build. Since it is machinery, our example of building our machinery shows that machines need to have intelligent makers. The machinery of nature is no different. The Maker of the machinery of nature is God.

The thing that I don't understand is why intelligent scientists would want to fight against God. Since they know that He exists, why not accept the truth and build science around the fact of God? In all their scientific logic, the fundamental foundation of it, that God does not exist, is not logical.

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31190  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: June 01, 2016, 08:42:09 AM


 Smiley

What is this supposed to prove, that you are a snide person nitpicking (not even accurately) a joke?

I don't get the point but, isn't that skull one of those elongated alien skulls?

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31191  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about 9/11 mystery? on: May 31, 2016, 10:23:02 PM
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Looked at the sites you presented. All of this debunking has been debunked long ago.

Then bring the proofs right into this thread.  Because so far you have not . "Proofs" that have been brought in have turned out to be the opposite.

"Beams tossed" which don't even go outside the debris field, "Faster than free fall" which isn't supported by the facts presented and which isn't on the seismic record, "nano thermite" which is paint, "Evil Jews" which is total bullshit.

Really, the arguments presented are pathetic.  They'd get you and "F" in 8th grade physics.  Seriously.



The buildings weren't built with 8th grade physics. The planes weren't built using 8th grade physics. The 9/11 inside job wasn't done using 8th grade physics. Nor was it reported on using even 8th grade political science, the only 8th grade science that might have a chance of convincing anyone using science from the 8th grade. Didn't you make it past the 8th grade?

Google all kinds of search words regarding the 9/11 inside job, and you will find all the evidence you need that the official report is just about the worst conspiracy theory around. Why list the info here (even though TECSHARE is doing a good job of it)? Google it.

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The sheer dishonesty in this thread by you and Techshare is appalling.  

In my view it makes no difference whether you purposefully push it or are simply an echo chamber of others who invented the lies.

So far not even one thing has been presented that warrants any even slightly rational investigation of any conspiracy theory relating to 911.  Not even one thing.

Magical nano-thermite, Evil Jews, Free Fall, Explosives, Controlled Detonation, Uncontrolled Detonation....

One thing I have not heard so far is the involvement of Super Evil George Bush Jr.  He was in on the Conspiracy, right?  In the back room with the Evil Jews?

Why is it that in all that tremendous heat that weakened the buildings so much that they collapsed, you can see photos of people walking around in the gaping holes made by the planes? And if that isn't enough, people are walking around and jumping out of windows. Barely enough heat to melt wax. And the heat there is, cannot be documented to have come from the fuel because nobody knows how much fuel the planes were really carrying, and nobody knows how much of it boiled off before it could burn, and nobody knows how much of it did an oxygen-starved burn, and nobody knows what small amount of it might have burned with a truly hot, non-oxygen-starved heat, if any.

Yet, since the Towers were built to withstand the jet plane impacts, the only thing that could have weakened them sufficiently so that they would fall (provided the whole thing was not an inside job), was jet fuel heat. But nobody really has any more than a guess as to the amount of jet fuel heat that might have been generated.

Then the official story essentially bases the whole crash of the Towers on jet fuel heat that was not known to exist.
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Now you are showing serious ignorance.  You don't even know what the "official story" is, do you?

The reason is because this is #1 and #2 on the debate points and we are on #3 and #4.  However I do have one comment on your "questions."

Why is it that in all that tremendous heat that weakened the buildings so much that they collapsed, you can see photos of people walking around in the gaping holes made by the planes? And if that isn't enough, people are walking around and jumping out of windows.

This sort of ridiculous Trufer thinking is just amazing.  Well, people are walking around and jumping to their death?  Gee, why is that?  You wouldn't think it was because after finding they could not reach the emergency exit, and the fire got closer, they chose the quick death instead of the slow agonizing one? 

How about that.

People get scared in a small amount of heat, less than enough to boil water. Fear does a lot to a person. The fact that they were alive and walking around in the heat shows that the heat was not enough to even put a dent in Tower structural integrity.

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31192  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stateless societies and bitcoin on: May 31, 2016, 10:20:02 PM
The only thing that gives a government strength is taxation. If people didn't want government, they would stop paying taxes.
If you don't pay your taxes, you go to the jail. This is why people pay it. It wasn't about that they want government. They don't want to go to jail. That's it.

I'm guessing that this is why they don't vote. They somehow can't ever seem to vote taxes away.

Thank Goodness that in the U.S. you can fill out your Form W-4 n/a (non-assumpsit) EXEMPT, and stop paying. If you file any tax return, you would do the same in all the places where numbers are required. It works. I do it (the W-4. I don't file tax forms.). Non-assumpsit, Signature.

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You're joking, right? Why the all people still paying taxes if such an option exist for them?

I'm not joking. The people don't know how to handle the law. That's all there is to it.

It's as simple as this. If the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA or THE IRS takes you to court, you can require that the plaintiff get on the stand and show the harm or damage you did to him/her. Neither the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA nor THE IRS can take the oath or affirmation, get on the stand, and say anything. You win, plus damages if you "require" them in the right way. This is basic law in America. People used to know this, but it has been hidden from most nowadays.

Perhaps you like your job. Perhaps you are not working for the money you earn. But if you are after the money, you can earn more off the the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA or THE IRS than you can make in a lifetime of jobs by doing this. Same for Canada, Britain, and Australia.

Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz, common law." Also, check Richard Cornforth at http://voidjudgments.com/.

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31193  Other / Politics & Society / Seven Shocking Things That You Almost Certainly Didn't Know on: May 31, 2016, 10:02:40 PM
Seven Shocking Things That You Almost Certainly Didn't Know





"You need to tell people about all the interesting things in your subscription letter," one of my oldest friends told me. "We do," I said. "We list them on the site and we even have a free report to get them started."

"Not enough," she replied curtly. "Do more."

So, today I'll take my friend's advice and explain seven things that simply aren't taught, that simply are true, and that make a huge difference in how we view the world. I won't be able to go into detail like I do in the monthly letters of course, but I think I can give you the crux of them fairly well. Here we go:



#1: The "Dark Ages" were a liberation.

Forget Monty Python and the Holy Grail (and let's be honest, probably half of us got our "Dark Ages" images from it); actual life after Rome was a tremendous release. The great tyranny collapsed and dissolved, agricultural production rose, average lifestyles improved, new technologies came into use, fine crafts continued and often improved, and even literature thrived. (Yes it did, and we have proof!)

Opportunities swung open to non-elite people (the 99% that history books ignore), and there was almost no one forbidding anything. If you wanted to take an empty field, work it, and build a small castle, you could probably do it… and a shocking number of people did!

Wars were not only tiny, but they were generally limited to the aristocracy. Unless you wanted to be involved with war, you were probably left quite alone. (Compare that to 20th century Europe!) We devoted two full issues to this, including lots of original-source historical material. It's true.

#2: Christian Europe, alone among major civilizations, killed the ancient evil of slavery.

What you were taught in school was misleading, and what you weren't taught was nearly criminal. The statement above is true, and in the subscription letter, we covered it carefully. There is no doubt about it, European Christians killed the massive slavery they inherited from Rome, and they killed it for moral reasons. That these people are given no credit for their triumph is a horrific wrong.

#3: The most profitable business on Earth, by far, is government.

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Read more at http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/197885-2016-05-31-seven-shocking-things-that-you-almost-certainly-didnt-know.htm.


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31194  Other / Off-topic / Re: Human Origins and the beginning of time. on: May 31, 2016, 09:53:00 PM
before babylon there was sumerian, before summerian there was what?  Who? Where?

Before Sumerian, we are still hunter gatherer. There were no big cities, there were no writing.

Gobekli Tepe (Potbellied Hill) in Turkey has proven the hunter gatherer theory wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

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Graham Hancock on Gobekli Tepe - Dec 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EFIkxaRhg8



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31195  Other / Off-topic / Re: Human Origins and the beginning of time. on: May 31, 2016, 09:48:45 PM
before babylon there was sumerian, before summerian there was what?  Who? Where?

Before Sumerian, we are still hunter gatherer. There were no big cities, there were no writing.

Gobekli Tepe (Potbellied Hill) in Turkey has proven the hunter gatherer theory wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

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31196  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stateless societies and bitcoin on: May 31, 2016, 09:43:21 PM
The only thing that gives a government strength is taxation. If people didn't want government, they would stop paying taxes.
If you don't pay your taxes, you go to the jail. This is why people pay it. It wasn't about that they want government. They don't want to go to jail. That's it.

I'm guessing that this is why they don't vote. They somehow can't ever seem to vote taxes away.

Thank Goodness that in the U.S. you can fill out your Form W-4 n/a (non-assumpsit) EXEMPT, and stop paying. If you file any tax return, you would do the same in all the places where numbers are required. It works. I do it (the W-4. I don't file tax forms.). Non-assumpsit, Signature.

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31197  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Superbug discovered in America that resists ALL known antibiotics... on: May 31, 2016, 09:38:41 PM
ClO2 - LD50 94 mg/kg
Chloramphenicol - LD50 2500 mg/kg (for rats, no data for humans available)

Just compare these numbers and think about your messages again.

I don't play with chemistry. I don't have a clue what your numbers are all about. Look at the edit in my post above yours.

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31198  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Superbug discovered in America that resists ALL known antibiotics... on: May 31, 2016, 09:30:18 PM
MMS works and is a whole lot cheaper.
OK then, go and take some chlortine dioxide. I'll even pay you $200 for the video.

Well, if you mean chlorine dioxide, I use it on a regular basis... at least weekly (not weakly). Keep your lousy $200. It works wonders for me personally.

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EDIT: I mix a solution of 28% sodium chlorite in water, with a solution of 50% citric acid in water. Generally I mix 10 drops of each and let the mixture sit for, say, 3 minutes. Microscopic bubbles of chlorine dioxide are formed in the mixture.

Next, I add the mixture to a cup of water, stir, and drink it down.
31199  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: May 31, 2016, 09:27:43 PM
BADlogic's scientific proof never passed the peer review stage, by both athiests and thiests. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Badecker never had to respond to logical nonbelievers.

Since the logical nonbelievers don't have a logical rebuttal to the proof that God exists, there is nothing to respond to.

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31200  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Superbug discovered in America that resists ALL known antibiotics... on: May 31, 2016, 09:24:09 PM
BULLSHIT

Go and learn chemistry, please. Chloramphenicol activity is not related to chlorine in any way, you can replace chlorine by any atom group with similar radius and resulting substance will still provide bacteriostatic activity. Chloramphenicol is a bacteriostatic, it's working through inhibition of certain ferments which are necessary for bacteria to reproduce. It doesn't kill bacteria, simply stops the reproduction. It also doesn't affect any other cells.

On the other hand, chlorine dioxide is nothing but a simple oxidizer, it indiscriminately destroys any organic matter. Yep, it turns bacteria into pile of oxidized proteins, but it will do the same with human cells as well. You can also try to use a concentrated sulfur acid, results would be the same. It's like trying to kill a fly using a hand grenade.

I bow to your superior chemistry knowledge.

MMS works and is a whole lot cheaper.

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