Funny that mindrust wants to ascribe tension and emotions to us. Why the fuck would we be emotional or tense when we are 2x higher in price than the price that mindrust sold all of his BTC? Surely, many of us are prepared for either UP or DOWN, and of course, not everyone is equally prepared for either UP or down, but there are NOT too many who sold their whole stash of BTC at $4,500-ish.... and especially after spending a couple of years building such a BTC position and then now trying to retroactively justify that erratic spontaneous behavior and trying to live with that level of mistaken emotional decision.. and still having some hopium that the mistake from 3 months ago might not have been so much of a mistake? grasping... grasping.. grasping... while asserting that we, here (the other ones of us) are supposedly the emotional ones in this situation. There tends to be a lot less emotion when, at least, your BTC holdings are largely in profits.... What a puzzle.... What a puzzle...., mindrust?  This is called projection, a very common thing. The angry dude believes everybody is angry at him, so he's using that imagination to justify his angry self(ie). I don't know if and how good Paul Watzlawick's books were translated into english, but that's a perfect read on these matters.
Yup. Some people are born strong. Some tall. Some smart. Some rich. Life isn't fair. Tough titties. But almost everybody has some opportunity for bettering their economic condition. All I'm hearing from you is a buncha whining about how it ain't a level playing field. No shit. Two choices: 1) Whine and wallow, or; 2) Buck up and expend some effort at bettering yourself.
Now that's only true if you look at it this way. I was born tall, i was the second smallest kid in school. Nobody is born smart. Most babies are hindered to grow smart by taking over stupid believes from their trusted ones (parents, idols and others). Nobody is born rich. Instead we're all born naked, hungry, poor and frightened. Life is just life, and that is the fair part of it. I'll tell you what's not fair: Society is not fair, distribution of wealth or education is not fair, being pre-judged by other humans is not fair, stigmatization is not fair. Life is nothing like that. Instead, it's part of the current stage of human evolution. We're all almost as dumb as apes, but we believe that we are great, a master species. The most important differences are that our thumbs are opposed to the other fingers and that we developed communication (which is still faulty and primitive, btw). It's wrong to assume we are homo sapiens (wise humans), we didn't remotely touch the state of "wise" in any way, but this narrative lets us believe so, which is also what keeps us from reaching anything like real wisdom. Only some did yet, and those keep quiet. For a reason. |
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The forum is so fucking dead I don't remember a time it was more deader than this and I've been around for a loong time.
It's all your fault, you know. We all lost much faith when you emptied your bags.
I was actually thinking the same thing for real even though you did a sarcasm (probably*) there.
*did you?Pff... Don't be ridiculous. I don't have that kind of influence over people. Well in this thread you do. Everyone and his brother couldn't stop yammering on about you after you sold your coins. He still doesn't realize he triggered a black swan event @mindrust: THAT's the real ridiculous thing here. |
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Longs dumping. Number plunging down. This gonna be bad.
Pucker your assholes.
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So he's not recovering his "stollen" funds on his own chain "cause Segwit coin is not BitCoin"? Yeah i should've known better than expect coherent sentence out of you. I also lost a few coins back in the old days who at BSv i should send letters to in order to claim them? While they're at why isn't BSv returning hacked Gox coins on their chain? Faketoshi already claimed to own Gox stolen coins from 2011, is that why?
This is how it develops next, Faketoshi sues every core dev to change the bitcoin code to get access to those two addresses (to try and set precedence) as he's been talking about. While that suit is ongoing, he looses Kleiman's case (possibly appeals, looses appeal) then he'll announce that law is law but he never received those pesky private keys, so in order to pay up to Kleimna he must win his current case against the core devs. All of the sudden his narrative changes, Kleiman becomes his best friend again and Ira deserves those coins that his sick brother helped to develop, and it's those evil core devs that are preventing him to fulfill the court ordered judgement against him. Buys himself more time to pull an elephant out of his ass to try to "make BSv great again". All good, but his one job was to find some random unclaimed UTXOs to to use in the case, and of course he fucks up by claiming Gox's stolen address. "But but but i did a google search and never saw Mark mentioning that this address was Gox's stolen funds." You almost can't help but feel bad for him, he just can't catch a break...Almost but no he deserves it all
SOMA analysis mode ON He isn't really retarded. He's just an optimist. Optimism fails many times more than pessimism (aka. realism). When Craig is seeing an opportunity in his favour, he takes it. He seems to not think further about any downsides or negative effects at all, he's taking extreme risks to achieve his goals, which in turn should reflect a more than good amount of narcissism in his psychological profile. This seems to be undeniable, when you see him talking in interviews. That's likely the reason he tries to push his stupid narratives ("i am satoshi") through, no matter what. . SOMA analysis mode OFF It was always like that with kings and shit, unless it was changed by sword. But just to make another group rich and powerful, until the sword hits again.
Our present form of "democracy" is even just an abstract kind of a kingdom, just that we can vote for a pre-elected "king", who has near omnipresent powers. People are then manipulated to vote for the "right" king. So it's no more "power of people", but they still believe so. Ex-POTUS Bush sen. and his think tank were perfecting the manipulation of voters by inducing fear. Naturally, fear is leading to hate, which is leading to violence. If the elected "king" starts spreading hate, guess what people will be pleading for. We already had that in many political systems, even in Europe, after the great recession. Now do the maths... Dems, Reps, Rightists, Leftists... No big difference, all of them are using FUD to get votes. And it still seems to work out pretty well, imho. |
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COVID19 phase two reopening in New Orleans is going according to plan.  This was the first time i had to max out browser zoom, only to feel even more sorry for this guy... EDIT: Second thought was: " Nothing to hide". God will probably punish me for my irony some day (if he didn't do so already). EDIT2: I'm an atheist, so the above statement was also blasphemic as fuck. |
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Sunday haiku now. My first one since weeks again, but not the last one. Thank you AlcoHodl, For this brilliant post of yours. Here, have a merit! At home with my kids, refreshing the WO thread in a hurry now.  |
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@JJG
You have my word, I will NEVER go full mindrust. I’m not selling anything until at least $30,000.
I understand that I have harassed you several times previously, but this time, it was OOM cautioning (harassing) you NOT to go full mindrust, not me.
Look: Here's the evidence: [edited out]
OK, but promise me/us that you won't go mindrust if bitcoin temporarily tanks again next time   Do something good to yourself today as well! You deserve no less, you know... Seems to me that Oom is going all soppy and sentimental, mererly because wifey left him with the four kids to bond for a few days. I was going to make a similar response to Oom, but I noticed that he seemed a bit too far gone in emotion for any kind of attempt at reason, so I was thinking that sometimes just gotta let these emotional thingie=ma-jiggies ride... #nohomo. So, sure, my inclination of thought is that you are not likely to go full mindrust, but I am never going to take those kinds of proclamations for granted, even if you scream until you are blue in the face.. sometimes things can just happen, and if you snort a bit too much coke one night, you never know... you could start getting soppy feelings at the wrong time... which sometimes happens and could happen to any of us, humans..... so, never say never. You might regret saying it... . hahahahahaha  Yeah, never say never, indeed. I wasn't really harrassing, however, LFC seemed to be bored out on the recent price development to me, so i wanted to make sure he doesn't accidentally develop onset of morbus mindrust, so i tried to motivate him to swear to himself again, well... not to sell the next bottom, haha This was completely separate from telling him to do something good for himself, and yes, yesterday i built up emotions about the (my) important things in life, which are a lot in the family range of things. Add that to realizing (again) that we all deserve better than we do (most of the time) but almost constantly fail to deliver even small amounts of better to ourselves. At least the most of us. With my kind memory problems you'll start realizing many of the same things repeatedly, which is not something i could not also love, despite additionally reminding me of my lil inability Have a nice day, WOs |
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It may seem heartless to say, but you have to take responsibility for your own actions. Also, begging for handouts is a poor show. If a handout goes to anyone, it should go to the victims of Lady Fortune. I lost my first transaction through a trojan (installed by testing "mining" software), luckily it was a test amount of 0.01 btc from exchange to wallet, but i didn't check the destination address twice, because clipboard contents can't change... (...right?) I am glad that i made that mistake so early, glad that it was a tiny amount as well. I can eventually feel with this guy a little, IF his story is actually true, IF the steal was real.... EDIT: But what i essentially wanted to say was: It's not heartless to give a man one of the most valuable advices in life, after he stepped into its shit! (Edited so many times because of errrrrors, time to give it up against the nap) SLEEP WELL |
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I think that planB now realized this, so he came up with S2FX, which does not have an exact timeframe and generally talks about the 2020-2024 period, which could be backloaded and also caused by inflation closer to mid decade.
I doubt that PlanB is as worried as you are making him out to be. He is likely just ongoingly playing with his numbers or his formula to make sure that it is reflecting ongoing events. Of course, anyone can look at past variants, too in order to see how much the model may be shifting, rather than solid, but even if it continues to get tweaked, I doubt that it has really been shown to have major flaws.. and really any of us should be taking the model with a grain of salt, anyhow... I recall initially he was projecting the 2021-ish time frame as $50k, then he went to $100k, then he went to $288k, and sure whatever number he comes up with may or may not happen, and who cares? Sure some people might become overly reliant on such model and its predictions, and thats on them for not being critical enough in their thinking about it.. or maybe having a plan for either way.. since it is hard to really predict the future with any precision, which is part of the reason that any of us should be having some broad picture plans that account for a variety of scenarios that include both extremely bullish, bearish and even mediocre, and of course, tweaking along the way while trying to somewhat stay with a scenario is a whole hell of a lot easier than NOT acting and waiting and waiting and waiting for the odds to get in your favor and that's almost never going to happen.. in other words it is way better to be acting on way incomplete information because tweaking along the way is way easier than if you never had any momentum or stake in the first place. Models are always being adjusted to reflect reality (price), models are always incomplete, at least in some way, and if IIRC, planB (or Burger) also somehow mentioned this in some recent reply to a S2FX concerning tweet already. S’up guys,
I haven’t been as active as I normally am, getting kinda bored with the total non-existent price action at the moment. There’s not really much to discuss at the moment is there? It’ll come, all in good time but I haven’t had the motivation to post that much in here the last couple of weeks (at my usual rate any way).
We’re getting close to entering Q3 of this absolute shit show of a year, hopefully honey-badger is ready to start treating us as we go into July & beyond. I’m certainly ready to see my bags begin to gain in value, 1BTC = 1BTC etc etc but it’d be nice to start getting close to $11,000 or $12,000.
Any way just checking in, have a good weekend. Love you guys #nohomo
OK, but promise me/us that you won't go mindrust if bitcoin temporarily tanks again next time Do something good to yourself today as well! You deserve no less, you know... EDIT: I'm in a very good mood today, and i just wanted to share and spread a bit of this to y'all here. Change is good, if you can embrace it. My mrs. is out of the house for the next two days, which means a lot of change over the course of a day when you have to take care of four kids. I am generally the more relaxed person than her, but i'm about ten years older and went through a lot more of the mean shit of life than her, which also made me grow (by embracing it - don't take that literally, btw ). So the first day of mrs-out-of-home brought me and my kids together more than ever before, emotionally and (don't beat me for this term) spiritually (i know... but it's exactly that). I wouldn't have had the chance to encounter this with her always-caring, more concerned way being present and influent all day. I tried to encourage her quite often to leave for a couple of days and just do something good for herself in this time, but she never won the fight against that caring/concerning part of her, and now she was forced through education. This is why i wanted some WO members, and i implicitly want for the rest of us, to go and just do something good to yourself - and hopefully it will do something good to your loved ones too. Off for #hodlsleep now  |
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I get so confused trying to figure out transactions, and from the links that he provided about where his bitcoin's went, I thought that there were 12 bitcoins sent. Am I missing something? Also, it looks like ericsavics@ericsavics1, the guy who lost his coins, had created a BTC address for the hacker to send back funds, and it looks like, so far, he received 79 transactions (at the time of my typing this post) that amount to 0.54615978 BTC, which presumably are donations from various members of the BTC community. Regarding his mistake, yeah, it surely does seem as if he should have known better, even though it is one of those kinds of mistakes that anyone could get tricked into, accidentally... so I am not sure what lessons to get from this kind of mistake. Perhaps, one lesson is that each of us should practice with our devices and our storage mechanisms on a regular basis to make sure that they work and using small amounts to transact, but I also understand that there are some risks with overly playing around too, so there tends to be some responsibility in ongoing learning how to be your own bank because if you fuck something up, then there is no one to go crying to in order to reverse the mistake, especially when it comes to sending coins and gosh, if you send all of the coins in your wallet at one time that is a pretty BIG deal, too. Also, I suppose, if any of us is holding most or all of our coins in just a few spots (presuming that they are large amounts), then we might want to reconsider how and where we are holding our coins, too. But, specifically, the mistake that ericsavics@ericsavics1 made was to enter his password or key words into a chrome browser when the keys should be entered into the device (presumably a Trezor, Ledger or one of the other hardware wallets?)... Many longer term studiers of those hardware wallet products have likely heard over and over about that kind of mistake of not to enter your information over the browser but instead to verify on the device, but like I said it does seem to be a mistake that anyone could make, especially if they do not practice using their hardware device or their wallet on a regular basis and/or they are not studying various aspects of the bitcoin space on a regular basis (which I don't necessarily expect normies to be spending anywhere near as much time as me (I admit I have a problem, but I still believe that I am capable of making lots of mistakes and not knowing some basic things) or any of you other fucking WO regulars in terms of ongoingly studying bitcoin related matters). One of my first suspicious thoughts was that he might have made up the steal to trick "heartwarm" people into donating some satoshis, and after you posted this, i thought it seems to have worked out if my ego's assumption was right. As you like to say: perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. Perhaps we'll never know * BobLawblaw angrily grumbles about just seeing a $5M USD/BTC market buy followed by shorts starting to get liquidated. * BobLawblaw mumbles something about up and number. Maybe. Bob, i think i can feel you, just that watching these kind of market "moves" makes me more SMH than angry. But hey, as long as BTC is used to serve as fiat speculator's whore, we kind of have to get used to these dynamics. Honestly, i don't think it will be easy. Ever. But it would be better. Do yourself something good today |
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I think you got what I wanted to say.
The "not your keys, not your coins" motto applies to the cases where the keys (raw keys, seed, whatever) are not held and managed by you, but by a 3rd party (exchange, etc.). If you have your 24-word seed, you have your keys. And if you haven't given the seed to anyone, you, and only you, have the seed (hence the keys).
One could argue that a paper wallet's QR code is not a real key. You still need a camera and s/w to decode the QR code, right? You see what I mean? The 24-word seed is just a smarter way to encode keys, just like a paper wallet's QR code (or alphanumeric code) encodes a key.
What's important is not the encoding itself (seed, QR code, alphanumeric string, whatever), but WHO HOLDS those keys... If it's you, and only you, who holds the keys, then those coins are yours and nobody can touch them. Seed or QR code makes no difference.
X-actly I was just in a slight rush of possibly having misunderstood ledger's security model. |
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No kidding. Not your keys, not your coins. Seeds are not keys.
I fully agree with everything you've said, except the above. If you can go from your seed to your keys in a deterministic, well-defined and publicly known way, then the two are equivalent. Seeds are keys. It's exactly like the difference between a key in QR code form and in alphanumeric form. They are the same, just expressed differently. As long as I have my seed, you can take my Trezor and crush it to little pieces. I still have my keys (encoded in the seed) and can use several methods (a new Trezor/Ledger or any other h/w wallet, Mycelium or any other s/w wallet, I can even do the calculations myself) to gain access to my coins. And no one has to (and should ever) know my seed, except me. The entire process can be done completely offline. Having said all the above, I do believe it's good advice to use paper wallets, especially for the non-technically literate coiners among us, who can easily fuck things up by doing something stupid with the 'puter, just like a kid can be injured by playing with a sharp knife (not the knife's fault). So you're not just telling me that a ledger nano is not "secure" without physical access? I don't mean the software or transaction processing server, since the keys are stored only on the ledger and encoded into my written seed. Did i miss something? What I'm saying is that you can write your 24 seed words on a piece of paper and completely destroy the h/w wallet and anything related to the process of generating the seed. The seed alone is a map to get to your keys. No need to access any server or anything on the internet. You just need that little piece of paper. There is a mathematical one-to-one relationship between your seed and your keys. Nothing else is needed. That corresponds with my knowledge, and combined with this: The private keys are yours, and are generated randomly through the local chip. They're in no way connected to a server over at Ledger nor is Ledger capable of getting hold of your private keys.
...makes the private key itself secure, even if i can't read it (but i could compute it offline via the seed, store it in paper format and wipe the ledger). But according to "not your keys, not your coins", as i lack physical access to the private key directly, the "not your coins" part becomes valid (somehow). All good. Also, i'd be quite a fool to have all my hodlings on a single address. |
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No kidding. Not your keys, not your coins. Seeds are not keys.
I fully agree with everything you've said, except the above. If you can go from your seed to your keys in a deterministic, well-defined and publicly known way, then the two are equivalent. Seeds are keys. It's exactly like the difference between a key in QR code form and in alphanumeric form. They are the same, just expressed differently. As long as I have my seed, you can take my Trezor and crush it to little pieces. I still have my keys (encoded in the seed) and can use several methods (a new Trezor/Ledger or any other h/w wallet, Mycelium or any other s/w wallet, I can even do the calculations myself) to gain access to my coins. And no one has to (and should ever) know my seed, except me. The entire process can be done completely offline. Having said all the above, I do believe it's good advice to use paper wallets, especially for the non-technically literate coiners among us, who can easily fuck things up by doing something stupid with the 'puter, just like a kid can be injured by playing with a sharp knife (not the knife's fault). So you're not just telling me that a ledger nano is not "secure" without physical access? I don't mean the software or transaction processing server, since the keys are stored only on the ledger and encoded into my written seed. Did i miss something? |
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Good afternoon Bitcoinland. Still bouncing in the mid-$9xxx range... currently $9479USD/$12866CAD (Bitcoinaverage). Definitely boring. I remember at that time it was just about cost. Everybody wanted Intel, but many couldn't afford it, so AMD became popular as a "poor man's CPU". You'd get comparable performance at a lower cost. I was going through a bankruptcy when I needed to update my old Pentium 100MHz Win95 machine with 8MB EDO memory. I bought the cheapest socket-7 mobo that supported both EDO and SDRAM since I couldn't afford to upgrade everything at once. so I started with the mainboard. I bought a brand spanking new Shuttle HOT-591P Super-7 mobo ( https://www.anandtech.com/show/134) with all the latest connectivity, even a newfangled AGP slot. It was a fraction of the price of anything comparable. Next came the SDRAM (a whopping 32MB!) and then eventually a shiny new 400MHz AMD K6-2. I was in heaven. My new machine screamed. Gradually I increased the amount of RAM to the maximum the VIA MVP3 chipset would support... 256MB. One day a friend came over and angrily asked why my el cheapo AMD K6-2/400 was so much faster than his brand new expensive PentiumIII/600. I asked him how much memory he had. Seems he had the 64MB it came with. Nothing like undue pagefiling to slow a system down. Years later I went through the same thing with SSDs. People were spending money upgrading their CPUs when they weren't what was bottlenecking their systems. I'm still using my ancient Core i-7 2600k system until it doesn't do what I need. After that it's Ryzen all the way. Ahh, these times... Sweet memories I still also use the i7 2800k in my desktop system, no real need to upgrade though primary uses are a few 3d games and audio production. No regret in switching to Ryzen on the notebook, where my main concern is ventilation (no bottom vents at best - sadly a feature of the past, if it's not built by apple). Recently settled with a Zenbook UM-431, which sucks most of the air through the back. A fair compromise. Not running at too high system temperatures when left on a pillow, playing youtube videos for hours... Rome had over a million people near the end. A year later it was down to 40k.
This is just the beginning. It will get much worse.
Civilisation.exe is not responding, would you like to end this process? I'd rather have Visual Studio installed for the "debug" option [edited out]
I'll leave that to the liposuction clinic that will go broke on the billion dollar bills caused by the future costs of my waste body fat disposal If pandemic, supply line issues, and riots continue, then you might be competing with whale blubber sales to light our lanterns. |
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ending up doing a full mindrust and losing it all at the click of a button.
I appreciate that we have mindrust locked into a kind of historical moment of weakness, and probably there is nothing wrong with that picture of mindrust's actions because it seems fair and it works for illustrative purposes, even though mindrust has claimed to have boughten back into BTC... and maybe the degree to which mindrust has bought back into BTC is not really playing out to be newsworthy enough to change any of our view of going "full mindrust," and, likely a decent amount of time needs to pass in order to gain confidence and even some further BTC buying actions from mindrust should take place in order to show that mindrust has either redeemed himself from his past errors (or learned a significant lesson) or gotten back into a more solid committed mindset in terms of his whole financial and psychological approach in viewing and acting upon our savior, king daddy. For the record, re. mindrust: I treat the "mindrust incident" as both educational and fun/meme material. It's all done in the positive vibes and spirit of the WO thread. Absolutely no intention to offend him. Not at all. If anything, I hope that mentioning his story, in textual, poetic, or meme form, can serve as a lesson to him, and to all of us really, to never let our emotions guide our actions, not in financial/investment matters anyway. Got to keep our cool and be guided by knowledge and logic. Hopefully, all this will help him see that he must buy back, even at a much higher price than he sold. The thought of having sold at under $4k when 1 BTC reaches and exceeds $50~100k would be too much to bear, at least for me. I am pretty sure that his sell price was around $4,500-ish. Anyone free to correct me on this, and maybe mindrust can clarify, if it may be helpful to be somewhat factually correct. We should not be asserting that he sold at the extreme of the bottom when it was 10% or 15% or so higher than the bottom... still not a good position to be in, but does not match with actual facts including how much worse it would be to have sold at the extreme bottom.. which I know does happen from time to time, too. Just so we're clear, Craig Wright has just openly admitted (via his lawyers) to be the guy that stole 80k BTC from Mtgox. The screenshots below show the court documents indicating the "1Feex" address is where the stolen Mtgox funds were sent. What do you have to say, @CalvinAyre? just lol Imma sue CSW, Satoshi, Tulip, Ayre and also Ver for my zillion dollar popcorn bill. This is at least the amount it will grow to, because this comedy will likely go on forever. Any lawyers around here? Yeah.... sue them because you unintentionally got fat, too. I'll leave that to the liposuction clinic that will go broke on the billion dollar bills caused by the future costs of my waste body fat disposal EDIT: @Bitcoin: Established intermediate support (after corona dip) becoming resistance? |
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Just so we're clear, Craig Wright has just openly admitted (via his lawyers) to be the guy that stole 80k BTC from Mtgox. The screenshots below show the court documents indicating the "1Feex" address is where the stolen Mtgox funds were sent. What do you have to say, @CalvinAyre? just lol Imma sue CSW, Satoshi, Tulip, Ayre and also Ver for my zillion dollar popcorn bill. This is at least the amount it will grow to, because this comedy will likely go on forever. Any lawyers around here? |
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yeah just grabbed a new notebook/tablet. went AMD as i figured anything with an intel chip will just keep getting slower and slower as more and more security patches and microcode updates are added to slow it down. not that AMD is perfect but intel? seems like they just didnt give a f*ck about really anything for years till real some competition came back. I remember a long time ago it was all about heat generation and how AMD CPUs were much hotter than Intel. I guess this doesn't apply nowadays. Long-time Intel fan (no pun intended), but thinking of switching to AMD on my next build (which will be in at least 5 years from now, as I recently upgraded to an 8-th generation Intel). Well, as i wrote above, the Ryzens keep up with heat management at desktop use, if not even ahead. Realtime audio generates a little more stress/heat on the Ryzen. |
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That's exactly why i switched to Ryzen. All those "bugfixes" also slow down (lab-) performance of intels considerably. While Ryzen get's maxed out a little sooner when processing multitrack realtime audio, it's at least on par compared to intel as a desktop cpu.
It requires tremendous effort. So tiring TBH.
Hate being angry. Takes me a really long time to get over some things, unfortunately.
All this shit in Seattle's Autonomous District is really making me super angry. This country is going full retard.
Seems like the whole of the US went full Trump retard. The states better unite against this coward, as in UNITED States of America. |
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Investing in PMs is like diving the toilet face down, then? #hodlsleep |
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Acid is a young persons game. After you get the message, hang up the phone.
I can't agree with you there Jimbo. I'm far from young and still use it. I find that the message changes over time. You could say it gives you the message you need to hear at the time. Towards the end of my experience with it the message was "You are going to lose your mind if you keep going down this path". Ha. Losing your mind (ego) is not the most bad experience. Even if it slowly comes back, you should be able to clearly separate it from the "me" (or "you", or "self"...) from then on. If you got a good "mentor" you likely won't go nuts because you don't know what's going on and you start to panic. If you are left alone in that state, you might be fucked for a while in your old, "normal" life. (Now i tried to elaborate some details, but i failed three times, so i gave it up and deleted it all). People who experienced and embraced it know what i mean I got a similar message from Nitrous. One odd thing about N2O is I go back and forth in time to every other time I have done or will do Nitrous and get to chat with myself. Very odd, but on one of the last trips I got the message: THIS IS A TRAP! from the future and gave it a rest.
Fascinating stuff. Only drug that can take you to the highest levels of a 5-MEO-DMT trip (another story), then 5 minutes later you are totally back to normal.
Is this like an oxygen rush (get on your knees hyperventilate for a minute and stand up, pressing the full lungs into your closed mouth and nose), but longer lasting? Like inhaling a couple of the contents of the mini gas tanks you screw into these "cream gun bottles"? (for lack of a precise term) |
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