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3141  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: April 15, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
Okay, the latest round of deep networking/protocol changes are over
What networking protocol are you using, markm? Is that an open-standard communications protocol approved by the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)? If not where can I read the specifications?
3142  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why China’s Political Model Is Superior on: February 29, 2012, 07:17:01 PM
It is very simple why China's political model is superior.

The name of the political class in China is "communist party". The name is not important. The most important thing is that there are 3 or 4 political wings within the communist party that have different views on how China must develop in future. They must compete for the votes of ordinary party members. In the US the name of the political class is "political establishment". There are only 2 wings there that name themselves republicans and democrats. There is almost no competition between them because there are only 2 of them. They can always make a deal at the expense of the society! When one of them is on power the general public has no choice but swap them with the only other choice available. Actually, there is no choice! You know from the real life market economy that in order to have genuine competition in a given market segment you have to have at least 3 independent companies competing for market share... I'm glad that in the UK political system there are 3 alternatives now.
3143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Location of next European Bitcoin Conference (London v Berlin) on: February 25, 2012, 04:45:34 PM

Actually "contact" with the old banking system is very needed. We need capital to switch to bitcoin.
I doubt we need capital to switch to bitcoin. But even if you feel you need looking for capital the old banking system is the wrong place to look into. There is no capital there. There is only debt. And not just debt but extremely leveraged debt!
3144  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: TradeHill - shutting down trading / deposits and returning all client funds on: February 18, 2012, 05:15:50 PM
I'm telling people to STFU for acting like they have some right to information that they don't have a right to.
I don't see anything wrong if people act like they have some right to information. I don't see why you are so upset about that? In fact what I see is you're acting like anti-"cryptoanarchist"...
3145  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: TradeHill - shutting down trading / deposits and returning all client funds on: February 14, 2012, 01:23:54 PM
We are currently finishing up our TradeHill withdrawal system, it will be ready within 48 hours.

You will be able to withdaw your TradeHill USD to the following destinations:
Such a system for clearing funds between exchanges was offered to TH almost a year ago. It was quite clear that banks will wage an open war against bitcoin sooner than later. Its petty they have decided at that time they are too big to fail and too brilliant entrepreneurs to grab a helping hand...
3146  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: EUROPEAN BITCOIN CONFERENCE 2011, PRAGUE NOV 25-27 on: February 01, 2012, 05:53:08 PM
new talks released, thanks Mitchell!


Thanks, Mitchell and molecular.
Rick Falkvinge - excellent talk.
3147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavin will visit the CIA on: January 29, 2012, 07:33:26 AM
I was listening to Bruce Wagner interview Gavin after the CIA conference and just wondered why not much had been made about Satoshi and the real reason he gave up all Bitcoin contact? According to Gavin himself the CIA visit itself could have been the reason he quit?
Of course, it is bad that Satoshi gave up all bitcoin contact. I have always wondered why? Worse than that however he can't already prove he is Satoshi! Switching from CPU to GPU mining is a mistake with critical consequences. That will be seen more clearly when incentives for miners begin to go down. If I may borrow Lincoln's phrase - "Currency of the people, by the people, for the people" - should entirely depend on ordinary people using it every day, not on a few mining pool operators.

Keep up the good work, CoinHunter. SolidCoin definitely has a brain wave.
3148  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 08:50:39 PM
The contract .otc files are a mechanism of the software, they are provided so the software will process our tokens, and can to an extent, at least to the operator of the server (me in this case) provide some sense of assurance that the server/software isn't cheating me / my users.
The server/software isn't cheating you / your users, but the server is operating with fake money because the minter using this server is not reliable. Whatever reputation this minter has so far nothing is preventing them from "printing" as much tokens as they wish without bothering to back them with actual assets. Nothing is limiting them because they can not be hold responsible for breaking the contract they have signed. They can not be hold responsible because they can not be brought to justice. They can not be brought to justice because they are anonymous... Case solved!
3149  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 08:22:07 PM
What guarantee does anyone have that you will not sell your non-anonymous reputation?
I have signed a contract. Actually, the contract itself is the digital asset (Ricardian contracts). If I don't fulfill my obligation described in this contract I shall be brought to trial by the owners of those digital assets.

Why do you think people sign contracts? Because they need to do business with each other but don't trust entirely each other. Now you're trying to convince me that you have a reputation and I have to trust you 100%. If I trust you 100% I don't need any contract in the first place!
3150  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 08:02:12 PM
Anyone who has your private key, sure.
Ahha, so why do you think your private key should be of any value to me? Because you would attach some "anonymous" reputation to it, right?

There is an old movie that was starting like that: "This is the City of London where reputations are made and... sold". So, what would be the guarantee that you will not "sell" your reputation when I least expect it, say by printing tokens that are not backed by actual assets?
3151  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 07:50:17 PM
How can you do if you pay for 50 btc for a bag full of pills at silkroad and it doesn't arrive to your home?
Well, issue a negative vote. Just that.
This is different. This is commercial counter party risk.

What we discuss about is someone giving you fake money Since you can not exchange them for the asset they are backed by in minter's vault. They don't have value unless you find someone that is willing to give you something valuable in exchange for those fake money... And you find this to be a perfectly normal way of doing business?
3152  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 07:35:07 PM
Nothing. You're screwed like a "my bitcoin" customer.
But you accepted that risk in the first place.
Interesting. Why should I accept this risk in the first place? Being anonymous your reputation is zero because anyone can speak on your behalf claiming they are you!

3153  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 06:57:26 PM
I am not an OT server, my OT server is a software application I run on a hardware platform.
I think your OT server is just a Martian proxy.
Guys, what do you smoke today?
3154  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 06:21:48 PM
These are cash-like IOUs, not cash. Try to pay your taxes or a fine with them.
I don't understand what are you trying to say if this is an argument. Argument to what? That you don't need to obey the law if you pay in cash above the limit that is allowed?

The contract could say "I owe you in bitcoins the same amount you have in OT tokens. Signed: anonymous guy". There's no technical impediment.
There is no technical impediment but there is a legal question - what can I do to defend my interest if the signed "anonymous guy" does not honor their contract? How do I sue them if they are anonymous?
3155  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 06:13:40 PM
I am not currently inclined to allow others to mint (to issue tokens) on my server, as my reputation would be besmirched should some minter turn out to be a scammer or somesuch.
OT servers do not need to have good reputation. They don't need to be trusted by the users and are disposable. But minters absolutely need to be reputable and transparent in how they handle the actual physical backing.
3156  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 04:08:33 PM
I don't see the point of this. If you want to be able to sue the minter, yes it has to be in a country where this is legal.
There is no country where there is no limits imposed on payments in cash!

If it's not legal, you don't have to camouflage it under games: just keep the minter anonymous (pseudonymous) and rely on reputation.
There is no way to keep minters anonymous. Minters have to issue digital assets and sign contracts where those digital assets are backed by physical assets. Reputation and anonymity are two words that don't go well together. Nobody will trust anonymous minter.
3157  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 10:36:38 AM
Yes, please.
Okay, please give me a day or two to write down some text. I shall PM fellowtraveler my suggestion and if he decides we can publish it. Yes, I have been considering the "marble" option for quite some time and it'll be something along those lines.  Smiley
3158  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 10:08:21 AM
This is really pathetic, maybe kids should be warned that games are serious business
Mark, you have to obey the laws and financial regulations or you have to be ready to prove in the court of law that what you're offering is not a financial service. It is simple as that.

I'm ready to discuss how to change OT so that it does not resemble financial service but a game.
3159  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Open Transactions Server: Asset/Bond/Commodity/Cryptocoin/Deed/Share/Stock Exch. on: January 27, 2012, 08:53:37 AM
Huh? Doesn't work like that.
It doesn't matter how OT server is designed to work. All that matters is how it will have to work in the real world as a financial services provider.

AML/KYC 'laws' are a grasping, rear-guard action from a failed, dying economic model, centralised digital money system and the corrupted political system built upon it.
As user you can run and hide but as an issuer/custodian/legal guardian of the backing/physical asset you can not for you're "anchored" to the world you've just described. You have to obey the laws whatever they are in the country your company is residing and there is no much room for discussion here.

My point is not to discourage you, on the contrary. I'm actively working to setup a service based on OT. Simply can't afford to bury my head in the sand...
3160  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Alpha testing] Open Transactions server on: January 26, 2012, 04:54:27 PM
But what is actually blinded?
This is not clear to me. In the original Chaum's paper the analogy to voting through carbon paper envelops is counter intuitive. What if the trustee is signing on empty envelop? Nick Szabo compares blind signature with signing blank checks but this is even worse for it leads to even greater confusion...

I guess the closest real life comparison can be made with travelers checks. You have the issuer, serial number, face value and the signature of the bearer but you can't know how many hands the check changed since the time it was issued.

There remains the question with AML regulations. Nothing prevents financial authorities in the respective country to ask you change the OT server code so that all transaction, say above $500 be declined if done through server 'cash mode'?!
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