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3141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Top 10 altcoins to buy right now before is too late on: December 05, 2017, 07:20:43 PM
I must say phore.

Staking, masternodes, anonymous marketplace, privacy smart contracts.


WOW

I believe 42 coin and super coin becoming big players in 2018
Big pump and dumps, sure. Big players, lol no.
3142  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Investing in real estate on: December 05, 2017, 07:20:10 PM

Its a very big bubble right now that is over bought in most countries.  Stick with crypto investment until 2020 or 2024.
Even in bubble countries there are exceptions, such as university cities with large influxes of students. The market could certainly be much better though.
3143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: December 05, 2017, 07:17:53 PM
is there big update ? the price is very good today !!
Nothing in particular. Bitcoin moving sideways, so altcoins are getting some love again.
3144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 07:17:10 PM
A late good morning Bitcoinland.

Seems we're back to going sideways in the $11k-$12k range but I've still gotta say it... another day, another ATH... currently $11773USD/$14963CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Old coins total $13637USD/$17319CAD) each (Coinmarketcap).

We nay be taking a long time to get to $12kUSD/1kEUR but that's fine with me. Slow and steady wins the race.

Go Bitcoin go.

You overestimate the value of the € Jimbo... .  Wink
Maybe he has a large leverage on Euro trades. Roll Eyes
3145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥Tokugawa Coin 🔥 Japanese Masternode 🔥1000% ROI🔥Buy in ICO on: December 05, 2017, 07:15:27 PM
What the fuck are you even trying to argue here? Scams have literally always been about making money.
3146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 07:13:26 PM
In the meantime jp morgan says btc is the new gold. That was unexpected...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/jpmorgan-switches-tact-backs-bitcoin-as-new-gold

Was it really? Or do you mean it was unexpected that they'd flip around so quickly?
3147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 05, 2017, 06:40:00 PM
and the ship is going DOWN DOWN DOWN Cheesy

just another pump and dump Cheesy

no matter on how many exchanges you list mco, its still a useless token like a 1000 others
and it has nothing to do anymore with the monaco project except if you want a metal card...

go ahead and wait for you 30$..... Grin

What do you think if and when the cards will really function as what they promise as its features. I think that will really catapult the monaco coin to the moon. It's just that now, people are still waiting for the cards to show.
I agree with you, i hope monaco card will be shipped as soon as possible and people can use it. If people who received monaco card give positive feedback, i believe mco price will increase

sure it is just a pump and dump... the token has no function and nothing to do with the card except if you want to lock some up for the metal card,
unless this is changed this token is just another useless one like 1000 others.
it has been said before, i dont know why the kids do not understand that the mco they are holding is not the mco they got initially
Because this is crypto. There are still people around who believe that BitConnect isn't a ponzi, even though it's so blatantly obvious. (And no, I'm not saying that MCO is one, it's not. But some donkey would try to make it seem as if I was trying to say that if I don't point it out the contrary myself.)

Still hoping that the AC gets replaced soon though regardless.


i read most of your earlier posts, you saved me on the first hype, cause i missed reading the "we removed the token contract" thing in kris post...!
but its fun to watch it now, the big players will gain alot of money and the dumb nuts will pay for it, as usual..
the only way to avoid that is by not playing the game! i bought my 50mco at 0.005 and i will keep them soley because i want the card including insurance
but i would never ever bet on mco tokens due to the total lack of function.
I once talked with a pro trader from NY Stock Exchange, he said the whole crypto market would not work without the stupid 2000 generation with 0 knowledge
believing there is a secret base in antarctica and hitler on the moon.but since there are so many, and every day many more idiots come into the game
there is endless oportunities to take their money!

- and last but not least - Monaco is just a prepaid card, nothing else nothing more.. that is not a ticket to the moon!  Huh
I had a decent bulk of MCO from the ICO and cashed all of them except for 500 out close to the peak now too. No utility in the token lost my interest as an investment, but I did know that it would pump again so I waited with dumping my stash.

If they replace the AC in a sensible manner I'll re-invest for the long-term passive income though.

The cards are gorgeous after all and very nice to have, so with a new AC the token will have guaranteed value in the future.

It's just the token that is garbage right now. Sure, it'll go up more even if there's no reason to, but I'd rather have tokens that have real value and will stay valuable even when the market decides to dump into oblivion, in which case I'll know with 100% certainty that buying up means instant profit.


NOBODY CARES OF YOUR INVESTMENTS.
YOU ALREADY LOST A PUMP TRAIN.
YOU ARE TOO OLD FOR CRYPTO, BETTER GO RETIRE, TOO MANY BAD ADVICES FROM YOUR SIDE.
How did I lose a pump train? I predicted it and exited at the top. I know that it'll go up even further when the first cards come rolling out, but I don't care about that enough to hold tokens when the AC hasn't been replaced yet.

And too old? Lol. I'm not even 30. I guess my mastery over rational arguments as well as the English language makes me seem to be worlds apart from you though.


The quality of your posts (as well as those of literally everybody spamming "omg lol FUD cunt gtfo") beautifully illustrate the level of intelligence occupied by hype traders though.
3148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥Tokugawa Coin 🔥 Japanese Masternode 🔥1000% ROI🔥Buy in ICO on: December 05, 2017, 05:50:39 PM
I know that the dev isn't exactly the sharpest spoon in the drawer. But I doubt that even he would be special enough to attack his own scam.
3149  Other / Off-topic / Re: Complete the sentence... "I would sell all my Bitcoins if..." on: December 05, 2017, 05:49:31 PM
...if McAfee literally eats his dick.
3150  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Tokugawa Coin on: December 05, 2017, 05:33:33 PM
Another potentially associated account based on his own response in the below quote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=206237

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2384784.msg25799761#msg25799761
3151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥Tokugawa Coin 🔥 Japanese Masternode 🔥1000% ROI🔥Buy in ICO on: December 05, 2017, 05:30:52 PM
Dev has not replied to what I've said at all.

You're completely illiterate if you think so, which would explain why you're into scamming. If you had the intellect of a fourth grader you wouldn't need to try to run this kind of shit and could be making genuine money instead.

Guys, just one thing.

I am as well 95% sure, that it is a very scammy projects, there were (and are) a lot of red flags. Some even suspect that he is the same person behind XUVCoin (they say that most of XUVCoin's code is copied from Tokugawa). I also wrote my concerns, and questions, and the dandruff didn't even bother leaving the hair for 1 second to answer my concerns ...

HOWEVER,

Could somebody explain to me, how could somebody watching to scam people list the coin on Cryptopia? I know, it's money for everybody, but still. How come he didn't just take the money paid for MN's and leave?
So he could dump his premine and make even more from this scam.



I'm really not sure if you're just ridiculously naive, deliberately shilling to save your "investment", or an alt of the dev. Wouldn't be surprised if all three.

But in either case, the "dev" can "buy" as many coins as he wants to for free and then still burn the unsold tokens while sitting on a mountain himself for which he paid nothing.


your right i am all 3 off it :
but dev has replied ,its your turn now

3152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 05:29:17 PM
Someone from the BCash camp gave Rick Falkvinge the green light to write it and put it out there.

Ha. Haha. Hahahahahahhhaaaaaahhaahahaha.

delusional.

Here's the original doc link:

https://bitcoincash.org/letter-from-the-ceo.pdf

Prove me wrong, troll.

Or you can, ya know, just STFU.

Haha Torque. You funny. You've been literally telling me to 'shut up' for - what? - a year now? How's that working out for ya?

Like I said - delusional.

Still no proof of me being wrong. Just a lame comeback and a hand wave.

What exactly am I supposed to prove, in your estimation? You are the one making the claim that Falkvinge got marching orders from some other power in the Bitcoin Cash ecosystem. Who rendered these marching orders? When were they issued? What is your proof? The proof is impingent upon the claimant. OTOH, it is widely recognized that proving a negative is possible only in corner cases.

As I said, delusional.

Quote
Hey, is [Bitcoin Cash] set to trade futures yet?

AAMOF, CBOE is openly planning it. Not that such derivative products are likely to much matter.

Actually, we won't know what effect the trading of such derivatives have upon the base asset until such trading is actually underway. Like I said, delusional.

Quote
How's that lack of interest working out for ya?

Not really sure what you mean by 'lack of interest'. But so far, so good. Below hopes, but above BTC returns.

Cheers!
Above BTC returns isn't difficult to achieve for a low volume shitcoin, especially with wash trading, market manipulation and direct attacks. We all know how sustainable that approach is though.
3153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 05, 2017, 05:25:43 PM
and the ship is going DOWN DOWN DOWN Cheesy

just another pump and dump Cheesy

no matter on how many exchanges you list mco, its still a useless token like a 1000 others
and it has nothing to do anymore with the monaco project except if you want a metal card...

go ahead and wait for you 30$..... Grin

What do you think if and when the cards will really function as what they promise as its features. I think that will really catapult the monaco coin to the moon. It's just that now, people are still waiting for the cards to show.
I agree with you, i hope monaco card will be shipped as soon as possible and people can use it. If people who received monaco card give positive feedback, i believe mco price will increase

sure it is just a pump and dump... the token has no function and nothing to do with the card except if you want to lock some up for the metal card,
unless this is changed this token is just another useless one like 1000 others.
it has been said before, i dont know why the kids do not understand that the mco they are holding is not the mco they got initially
Because this is crypto. There are still people around who believe that BitConnect isn't a ponzi, even though it's so blatantly obvious. (And no, I'm not saying that MCO is one, it's not. But some donkey would try to make it seem as if I was trying to say that if I don't point it out the contrary myself.)

Still hoping that the AC gets replaced soon though regardless.


i read most of your earlier posts, you saved me on the first hype, cause i missed reading the "we removed the token contract" thing in kris post...!
but its fun to watch it now, the big players will gain alot of money and the dumb nuts will pay for it, as usual..
the only way to avoid that is by not playing the game! i bought my 50mco at 0.005 and i will keep them soley because i want the card including insurance
but i would never ever bet on mco tokens due to the total lack of function.
I once talked with a pro trader from NY Stock Exchange, he said the whole crypto market would not work without the stupid 2000 generation with 0 knowledge
believing there is a secret base in antarctica and hitler on the moon.but since there are so many, and every day many more idiots come into the game
there is endless oportunities to take their money!

- and last but not least - Monaco is just a prepaid card, nothing else nothing more.. that is not a ticket to the moon!  Huh
I had a decent bulk of MCO from the ICO and cashed all of them except for 500 out close to the peak now too. No utility in the token lost my interest as an investment, but I did know that it would pump again so I waited with dumping my stash.

If they replace the AC in a sensible manner I'll re-invest for the long-term passive income though.

The cards are gorgeous after all and very nice to have, so with a new AC the token will have guaranteed value in the future.

It's just the token that is garbage right now. Sure, it'll go up more even if there's no reason to, but I'd rather have tokens that have real value and will stay valuable even when the market decides to dump into oblivion, in which case I'll know with 100% certainty that buying up means instant profit.
3154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 05, 2017, 05:22:01 PM

I once talked with a pro trader from NY Stock Exchange, he said the whole crypto market would not work without the stupid 2000 generation with 0 knowledge
believing there is a secret base in antarctica and hitler on the moon.but since there are so many, and every day many more idiots come into the game
there is endless oportunities to take their money!

- and last but not least - Monaco is just a prepaid card, nothing else nothing more.. that is not a ticket to the moon!  Huh


I once talked to pro IT person from Redmond and he said noone will ever need more than 640 kilobytes RAM

in their PC
Ooohhh, I member. I also member when people gave me shit for buying an MP3 player with a 20 GB hard drive back when high end MP3 players only had like 64 to 128 MB. It was stunning to me that people actually thought that having to pick a handful of songs before leaving the house was in any way practical.
3155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 05:19:17 PM
Someone from the BCash camp gave Rick Falkvinge the green light to write it and put it out there.

Ha. Haha. Hahahahahahhhaaaaaahhaahahaha.

delusional.

Here's the original doc link:

https://bitcoincash.org/letter-from-the-ceo.pdf

Prove me wrong, troll.

Or you can, ya know, just STFU.

What a bunch of BS that letter. It's a page longer than Nakamoto's original Bitcoin white paper.

So this guy is the CEO central authority of what is supposed be a decentralised fork of what is definitely a decentralised digital currency?   Huh

And how exactly is he expecting not to be shat on?
The same way the social justice movement actually has momentum. Humans are fucking apes.
3156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥Tokugawa Coin 🔥 Japanese Masternode 🔥1000% ROI🔥Buy in ICO on: December 05, 2017, 04:53:53 PM
Guys, just one thing.

I am as well 95% sure, that it is a very scammy projects, there were (and are) a lot of red flags. Some even suspect that he is the same person behind XUVCoin (they say that most of XUVCoin's code is copied from Tokugawa). I also wrote my concerns, and questions, and the dandruff didn't even bother leaving the hair for 1 second to answer my concerns ...

HOWEVER,

Could somebody explain to me, how could somebody watching to scam people list the coin on Cryptopia? I know, it's money for everybody, but still. How come he didn't just take the money paid for MN's and leave?
So he could dump his premine and make even more from this scam.


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 Exactly half million coins will be burnt / locked in, so that they cannot be moved without community vote. This will happen Today at USA morning 9 AM December 5 2017
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I'm really not sure if you're just ridiculously naive, deliberately shilling to save your "investment", or an alt of the dev. Wouldn't be surprised if all three.

But in either case, the "dev" can "buy" as many coins as he wants to for free and then still burn the unsold tokens while sitting on a mountain himself for which he paid nothing.
3157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 02:19:22 PM
I expect that if he does not pay or start to pay those of us that lost the most (and everyone else) within a few months we will get together, pool our resourses and go after him.

I say hell with the 'few months'. If a shovel ready initiative is floated, I'm likely to jump on board.

At this point, I might be molliified by an actual open audit by a capable trustworthy party into his operation. As I posted elsewhere, I am still open to the possibility that BST was at least initially a good-faith business attempt. I can live with a failed biz. But all anyone has heard from him since is a lot of self-serving passive-aggressive bullshit -- at least heard publicly. A person in his claimed position (i.e. failed biz) should be bending over backwards to provide his creditors with information.

But if this was a scam from the outset, I would expect that any initiative in which I was involved would prosecute him to the extent that any other felon who stole x USD worth of private property would.

Jbear jbreher, when will you learn

'Twas an expensive lesson indeed. Over 1300 BTC principal, over 4000 if 'profits' are included. And it wasn't the last. Lost another big chunk in the GLBSE implosion. Fortunately, by the time of the (last) Goxxing, I had wised up some. Only lost $16 USD in that fiasco. And nothing since.

Good thing I didn't have all my eggs in one basket, hunh?

Though I am a bit puzzled as to what you expect me to 'learn' in regards to the above. Shavers has been convicted. And while it took longer than I feel is truly justice, the remainder of his life will be damaged due to the consequences of his actions.

So what is the lesson I am supposed to learn, smartypants?
What actually happened to Shavers? I'd imagine that even if he got a prison sentence he'd still have a fuckton of money stashed away somewhere.
3158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 02:02:51 PM
No mansion for me, more like a a hobbit house

but off the grid, hell yeah

Entirely our plans too. And just had the good news : 0 Tax on our gains in Be. (For as long as the greedy gov do not change their mind).
I'm still contemplating what the best move tax wise is. But I don't think I'll ever go "all out" of crypto, no matter how much I end up having. There are a few absurd goals that I would consider tackling if I had upwards of 100m.

But in the meantime a fully self-sufficient mansion with lots of land for random animals that get to do whatever the fuck they want in exchange for milk and some eggs seems pretty good. Hopefully lab-grown meat will be within reach soon too, then I could add my own lab into my mansion as well and not have to worry about anything other than internet access from some third party.
3159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 05, 2017, 01:59:30 PM
and the ship is going DOWN DOWN DOWN Cheesy

just another pump and dump Cheesy

no matter on how many exchanges you list mco, its still a useless token like a 1000 others
and it has nothing to do anymore with the monaco project except if you want a metal card...

go ahead and wait for you 30$..... Grin

What do you think if and when the cards will really function as what they promise as its features. I think that will really catapult the monaco coin to the moon. It's just that now, people are still waiting for the cards to show.
I agree with you, i hope monaco card will be shipped as soon as possible and people can use it. If people who received monaco card give positive feedback, i believe mco price will increase

sure it is just a pump and dump... the token has no function and nothing to do with the card except if you want to lock some up for the metal card,
unless this is changed this token is just another useless one like 1000 others.
it has been said before, i dont know why the kids do not understand that the mco they are holding is not the mco they got initially
Because this is crypto. There are still people around who believe that BitConnect isn't a ponzi, even though it's so blatantly obvious. (And no, I'm not saying that MCO is one, it's not. But some donkey would try to make it seem as if I was trying to say that if I don't point it out the contrary myself.)

Still hoping that the AC gets replaced soon though regardless.
3160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2017, 01:55:23 PM
I swear my bladder is an ATH indicator.

It always wakes me up just in time for another leg up.

Go Bitcoin go.

I've gotta go back to bed. I don't keep farmer's hours.
Would you be willing to insert some sort of contraption that alerts us of your next discharge into your body?
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