Hey, a testable prediction! Can you give us an estimate of when exactly you think Moloch's self-destruction will close in on him? I'd like to check it for accuracy.
Questions such as this one sometimes require observation over a few generations to decisively answer. I'm happy for BADecker to claim a confidence interval for his claim. Otherwise it's just so much hot air. Consider Revelation 9:6 <snip> That's not actually a confidence interval for a time period. You've answered a request for data with a wall of text I'm sure some found interesting, but I wanted data so I could design an experiment that would test your claim. Can you provide that data? Can't do it. Jesus says that nobody knows. Other than that, when checking the gravestones for length of life, most people don't make it to more than a hundred years. So, come back in a hundred years and we can take it from there. Of course, science might find a way to extend life indefinitely. And aside from getting hit by a Mack truck, Moloch might live for a long time if the anti-aging actually works. So come back after science implements anti-aging that extends life indefinitely, and we can take it from there. If the judgment day comes first, you won't be able to use data or statistics anyway. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Religion is pure evil.
True. But what does that say about all the people? All people are religious in one way or another. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) No, all people are not religious in one way or another. People who are not religious about their breathing are not people. Their body's are people-like. But they are dead, and therefore are not entirely people. Other than that, all people are religious about their breathing if nothing else. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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So after much prayer, scripture hunting (to ensure that the Bible actually says what I think it says), and consulting with other Christians, I’ve compiled a list of stupid things Christians say. These are in no particular order. Join me as I invite Christians to open their hearts more and their mouths less.
1. Barack Obama is not my president.
Um, really? Let’s ignore the political and legal aspects of this and focus on the biblical. The bible tells us to submit to our laws and rulers unless they directly contradict God’s laws. President Obama has never required me to do anything that went against my convictions. I don’t agree with all his policies, but my objections are not biblical ones. And if you are a Christian, how can you not believe that God put Obama in office? I know you prayed for the presidential elections. And I’m sure rather than assuming you know best, and praying for a specific candidate to win, you prayed for God to put the best person in office and give him the wisdom to govern well. You did pray for God to put the best man for the job in, didn’t you? I thought so.
Of course Obama is not your president. It is a stupid thing to say it because it is common knowledge. Obama is the president of a corporate trust that has as one of its name, "The United States." If you, personally, happened to be set up as a corporation, more than likely Obama wouldn't even accept the job as your president if you asked him... to say nothing about following the required guidelines necessary to make him your president. There are only two ways that any government becomes your government (ruler). They are: 1. You are conquered by them; 2. You voluntarily accept them as such. And usually, if you accept a conqueror as being your ruler, you did it through voluntary choice... submit or die. So, if government is your ruler, it is because they have conquered you or because you voluntarily made them your ruler. President Obama doesn't require anybody to do anything except, possibly, that the person has volunteered blindly to accept Obama's requirements. For example, a military person may have voluntarily accepted Obama ahead of time. Other than that, as long as a person doesn't harm another, Obama's laws don't apply. People just think they do, or don't know the proper way to say "no." What does God placing Obama in office have to do with anything? Government was set up as it has been explicitly for the purpose of maintaining a government while at the same time governing the government to keep their hands off me as long as I haven't harmed anyone. I'm sure that God recognized that most of the people don't understand this - just like you don't - and so He placed the best guy on the job for all you slow learners. I have prayed for lot's of things. And to my shame, I haven't written them down so that I could go back and refresh my memory about what they were. How in the world do you know what I prayed for? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Does this mean that researchers are not really trying to find ways to extend life > anti-aging? Maybe they are simply playing around in the lab, and keeping the money they get. Neat way to create a job for yourself. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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In Earth's history, CO2 levels have been above 8000 PPM... we are currently at 350 PPM and worried?!? WHY?
Maybe because the earth was very different then? And nowhere we want to go back to. I think its a complete scam to swindle tax-payers out of $20,000,000,000 every year (that's a lot of money for a claim with such poor evidence... like religion)
So you're saying scientists that look at the evidence are all in on it? Or incompetent? Maybe the 97% isn't accurate. But the vast majority agrees with anthropogenic climate change. Even as CO2 levels were very different in the past, so was the C-14 content. That's why there is a complete difference between the time-passage that current scholars suggest, and the time-passage that the Bible reports on. It is suggested that Gobekli Tepe in Turkey is, say, 12 and a half thousand years old. The Bible says that the whole universe is only a little over 6,000 years old. C-14 content from before the Great Flood of Noah's day was extremely different, being changed by the things that caused the Great Flood. The whole idea of a 13 or 14 billion year old universe is 100% speculation by scientists who would rather be speculators than scientists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) The 13 billion year old universe idea is not based on C-14 content. Still speculation. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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It was stated that gang violence and homicides are excluded else the US would have like 100-150 k deaths per year through gun violence alone.
Btw. Im actually for having guns but even more for tight enough gun controls that no wrong people get it. Also i believe strongly that there is no need to have "war making" weapons legal. (Semi to full automatic weapons) Go hunting and on shooting tournaments all you want i just dont want to see ppl with g36 or uzis running around on the street thanks.
Can't be that many. It's only about 1 a day in Chicago. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Some people have contests for the first day that it is going to snow in their community. Others try to predict groundhog day. Why don't we start a lottery in Bitcoin where we guess the day Trump is going to be assassinated? Whoever is closest wins the lottery. Everybody throws in, say, 0.01 bitcoins, and the contest creator keeps 10% for keeping the whole thing going... or 100% as long as Trump is not assassinated. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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All the comments very confusing all you are not believing to god has been already forgive if you are a good man.
All those believe god but not a good man is not yet forgiven unless they repent their sins.
Christianity or any religion may be a poison but god dont want religion either.
Sin makes time lost. Time cannot be returned even if the sinner pays for his sin in this life. The only way to receive Heaven is to believe that Jesus took punishment for all sins, even time lost. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Religion is pure evil.
True. But what does that say about all the people? All people are religious in one way or another. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Not saying your wrong but..97% might want to keep there their jobs?All about the money..
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Typo? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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In Earth's history, CO2 levels have been above 8000 PPM... we are currently at 350 PPM and worried?!? WHY?
Maybe because the earth was very different then? And nowhere we want to go back to. I think its a complete scam to swindle tax-payers out of $20,000,000,000 every year (that's a lot of money for a claim with such poor evidence... like religion)
So you're saying scientists that look at the evidence are all in on it? Or incompetent? Maybe the 97% isn't accurate. But the vast majority agrees with anthropogenic climate change. Even as CO2 levels were very different in the past, so was the C-14 content. That's why there is a complete difference between the time-passage that current scholars suggest, and the time-passage that the Bible reports on. It is suggested that Gobekli Tepe in Turkey is, say, 12 and a half thousand years old. The Bible says that the whole universe is only a little over 6,000 years old. C-14 content from before the Great Flood of Noah's day was extremely different, being changed by the things that caused the Great Flood. The whole idea of a 13 or 14 billion year old universe is 100% speculation by scientists who would rather be speculators than scientists. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthefederalistpapers.integratedmarket.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F06%2FFP15-0624-Obey.png&t=665&c=txmv-50bHb1sWw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thequotepedia.com%2Fimages%2F87%2Fi-love-the-pure-peaceable-and-impatiabl-christianity-of-christ-i-therefore-hate-the-corrup-slave-holding-christianity-quote.jpg&t=665&c=C5-oPen5833KHg) The real point isn't slavery. If a slave had not been a slave, in some cases his life would have been longer, and in other cases it would have been shorter. But both slave and master die in this life. And the time of life is reasonably short, being usually less than 100 years. The point is the hereafter. Let both the slave and master find the truth of God, so that they both can live in the hereafter in joy and glory with God forever... rather than in everlasting destruction... "where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched." If you don't consider that the resurrection is possible, realize that there is no way that this life is possible, either. Not by anything we yet understand. Except that it is here. Even so, the impossible resurrection is a certainty as well. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Except that you are wrong. Slavery is good...
Only a christian could convince himself that slavery is good... Slavery is immoral, every time... EVERY time... there is no situation where slavery is good. Period. End of moral lesson. Only a deceptive person who doesn't have an answer would take someone's writings out of context and turn them into something that he did not say. Because of this, it turns out that you are more immoral than slavery might be. As I said above - though not entirely directly - government has made slaves of us all through taxation. What? I am "more immoral than slavery" because I quote from the bible? No. Because you use deception, as I said, and as you are trying to deceive people away from right in your post I am quoting. Does that make sense to anyone who isn't christian?
Your deception attempts don't make sense to anyone who is really interested. Why not? Because he/she can go back and check the record to see how deceptive you are. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Except that you are wrong. Slavery is good...
Only a christian could convince himself that slavery is good... Slavery is immoral, every time... EVERY time... there is no situation where slavery is good. Period. End of moral lesson. Only a deceptive person who doesn't have an answer would take someone's writings out of context and turn them into something that he did not say. Because of this, it turns out that you are more immoral than slavery might be. As I said above - though not entirely directly - government has made slaves of us all through taxation. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Mathematics is the language of the universe - Galileo On that we can almost all agree, however it is paradox how atheists use mathematics to explain the universe yet fail to recognize that the tool they use transcends the universe. Theists argue that it is God who made it, yet mathematics has not a single judgmental nor benevolent integer. As a language, mathematics acts like a language. Language is not the real thing. The universe is the real thing. Language is a virtual reality if it is a reality at all. Mostly it is false and inconclusive explanations of things that are real and things that are fictional. And that is exactly how people use math. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) You must be too clever for us mere mortals because what you have just wrote written as totally lost me. Perhaps too clever, but way more knowledgeable. Do you even know what your talking about..Who made god?. If your you're saying nothing can come from nothing so there must be a god..WHO MADE GOD. The physics in God's Heaven of Heavens - where He existed before creating this universe/terrarium - doesn't have limited ideas like "making" or "creating" within its structure. Such limited things are saved for this limited universe. You can keep preaching your lie's 21st century religion is dying.. And you can see why it's dying just listen to BADECKER say's it all.. Good job BADECKER'S not a Muslim ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .Imagine what he be saying ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Quite the contrary. Look at the evidence. Religion isn't dying. People are dying. When people die, their ideals die with them. The thing that lasts forever is the Word of God. Thus, if you stick to the Word of God, you will last forever with it. But if you separate yourself from it... you can't. You will only succeed in dying forever from it for trying to separate yourself from it. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) When I ever write a letter I will get you to check my spelling for me thanks.. such a kind person Just trying to be agreeable, even though I know that it won't always be possible. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Slaves come from approximately two places: 1. Free people enslaving themselves to others for economic reasons; 2. People conquering other people and making slaves of them.
God forbids the stealing of people, in the Bible.
God regulates how slavery must work. Why? Because the stubbornness of mankind will always make slaves. God had a choice. Either destroy mankind, or regulate the slavery to a "dull roar." God didn't and doesn't want to destroy mankind. So he works with man's slavery-making-mode to make it better for both the slaves and their masters.
If God were truly a moral god... he would have said something like, "Slavery is bad, mkay? If you could stop owning another human as property, that would be swell" But, that's not what God said in the bible... God said slavery is good and moral... Every good Jew/christian should own a few slaves... God said it was kosher It is also not a one-off... God condones slavery at least a dozen times in the bible (both OT & NT) Except that you are wrong. Slavery is good for the destitute person. And it is very good when he finds a master who is good to him. Slavery is outlawed in most of what is known as the free world. Such outlawing hasn't reduced slavery. All it has done is turned the slaves over to government. For example, if you follow the legal definition of "tax" through to its end, you will find that tax is fraud. Fraud takes things from the people who are defrauded. The income tax is a form of limited slavery. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Mathematics is the language of the universe - Galileo On that we can almost all agree, however it is paradox how atheists use mathematics to explain the universe yet fail to recognize that the tool they use transcends the universe. Theists argue that it is God who made it, yet mathematics has not a single judgmental nor benevolent integer. As a language, mathematics acts like a language. Language is not the real thing. The universe is the real thing. Language is a virtual reality if it is a reality at all. Mostly it is false and inconclusive explanations of things that are real and things that are fictional. And that is exactly how people use math. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) You must be too clever for us mere mortals because what you have just wrote written as totally lost me. Perhaps too clever, but way more knowledgeable. Do you even know what your talking about..Who made god?. If your you're saying nothing can come from nothing so there must be a god..WHO MADE GOD. The physics in God's Heaven of Heavens - where He existed before creating this universe/terrarium - doesn't have limited ideas like "making" or "creating" within its structure. Such limited things are saved for this limited universe. You can keep preaching your lie's 21st century religion is dying.. And you can see why it's dying just listen to BADECKER say's it all.. Good job BADECKER'S not a Muslim ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .Imagine what he be saying ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Quite the contrary. Look at the evidence. Religion isn't dying. People are dying. When people die, their ideals die with them. The thing that lasts forever is the Word of God. Thus, if you stick to the Word of God, you will last forever with it. But if you separate yourself from it... you can't. You will only succeed in dying forever from it for trying to separate yourself from it. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I wonder if we can put a bunch of these together and make a free energy motor ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Actually they look very cool. Designed by a higher intelligence. Like the Grays maybe. Still gotta feed 'em. These motors are of such a design that there is nothing in evolution that could or would have made them, including motive. In other words, there is no even near plausible evolution prior form. The whole thing must have been designed and built. It couldn't have evolved according to any of the theories we have or that would seem logical. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Slaves come from approximately two places: 1. Free people enslaving themselves to others for economic reasons; 2. People conquering other people and making slaves of them. God forbids the stealing of people, in the Bible. God regulates how slavery must work. Why? Because the stubbornness of mankind will always make slaves. God had a choice. Either destroy mankind, or regulate the slavery to a "dull roar." God didn't and doesn't want to destroy mankind. So he works with man's slavery-making-mode to make it better for both the slaves and their masters. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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...Scientific journals (meant for getting the full picture of a scientific or historical discovery, with it's nuances and possible errors) are from "3,000 to 10,000 words in length"...
And with all this trolling, you still refuse to pick a topic for debate... As for scientific journals... I have no problem with a 10,000 word paper, so long as it sticks to a single topic... which they do... it often takes a lot of words to debate a single topic... The problem is you jump all over the place, accusing me of this or that... if I don't respond to everything, you accuse me of cherry-picking... but, I cannot possibly fully refute a 3-page post, providing supporting evidence for every claim, without making my own 100-page-long post! This is the situation I am avoiding... if you want to debate a single topic at a time, PICK A FUCKING TOPIC TO DEBATE WITH ME! ------------------------------------------------------- If you want me to pick, how about slavery in the bible? Christianity has also preached that slavery is lawful and not a bad thing... in both the old and new testament, so don't get all, "but the new testament doesn't say that" on me...
[X]Bold statement with no evidence [X]Previous arguments dismissed You say I did not provide evidence for this claim, but I did... I said christianity had preached it... the bible supports slavery in at least a dozen places... do you need me to quote the exact verses for you, or are you capable of using google? Here's the link again since you must have missed it (evidence you claim I didn't provide) Slavery: As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly. When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his property. More slavery in the bible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery Bible slavery is God causing the stubbornness of mankind to limit slavery that was and would have been violently more disastrous for the slaves if it were not for Bible limitations on slavery. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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