Did not have time to read recent posts. Is this HashStaker thing just another way to delay paying BTC to GAW customers?
customers victims are actually, by buying into this, showing that they have no interest in BTC, so why will they ever be paid? This, fuck anyone betraying Bitcoin |
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Nearly 72 hours now & I cant withdraw my BTC (less then 0.5) I get no response on my ticket only when I hunt them down on Chat then they tell me they dont know why & they are looking into it. I am sure in the last 24 hours they have had zero trouble taking peoples BTC
Meh, I had ~$60 stuck there for a week, spent it on stalkers - bought two each. I'm sure they would prefer you do the same  It's becoming an uphill battle to get any kind of real cash out of this thing. Good thing I don't have much left there. Haha isn't that one of the biggest signs of a ponzi? I am stubbornly refusing to call it a ponzi simply because GAW does not need to use new customers' funds to pay old customers (the typical definition of a ponzi). They can just stop paying old customers, period. Like the 1 satoshi joke on solo owners. Also most of the hashlet sales recently went through the market where GAW is not selling anything, they just collect commission, again non-ponzi income. Something similar will probably happen to the HashStaker, since they are already pumping it and promising higher prices. We need a new word/definition for what's going on here. I don't know though why they seem to be having these troubles with withdrawals. I don't believe they are running out of cash unless they horribly mismanaged something along the way. I think I mentioned somewhere that they are nowhere close to having paid out even the $16 to the first Hashlet owners, so they should have a lot of cash laying around or invested in mining hardware and generating income. Wrong, how do you expect paycoin to go from $4 to $20? |
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PayCoin is a confirmed fraudulent ponzi. Current victims are trying to promote it in hopes they can exit. GAW is trying to con people interested in Bitcoin by selling them fake PayCoins. They announced several interviews, however they were all just paid PR articles. PayCoin is selling at $4 and promising $20 value. This is called securities fraud. Stuart Fraser , Vice Chairman and Partner, Cantor Fitzgerald is not involved. They are trying to fake involvement of many companies and individuals such as Stuart Fraser, Amazon, Walmart, Target and PayPal. If you are interested in Bitcoin, get it from a reputable source such as Coinbase or Circle. Do not fall victim to Bitcoin clones.
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PayCoin is a confirmed fraudulent ponzi. Current victims are trying to promote it in hopes they can exit. GAW is trying to con people interested in Bitcoin by selling them fake PayCoins. They announced several interviews, however they were all just paid PR articles. PayCoin is selling at $4 and promising $20 value. This is called securities fraud. Stuart Fraser , Vice Chairman and Partner, Cantor Fitzgerald is not involved. They are trying to fake involvement of many companies and individuals such as Stuart Fraser, Amazon, Walmart, Target and PayPal. If you are interested in Bitcoin, get it from a reputable source such as Coinbase or Circle. Do not fall victim to Bitcoin clones.
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Hey Everyone:
Happy Monday.
I want to give you all first notice that I will be heading to New York City this week to interview about the biggest ICO in history. So far on the schedule are CNN and Fortune Magazine, with many more to come The WallStreet Journal will also be interviewing us as well. Update: All interviews are done (CNN, WSJ, Fortune Magazine, Venture). 20th November 2014Aka I just paid for a press release |
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Is it magic?
GAW has managed to make people begging to PAY for staking wallets when the rest of the world uses FREE and open source ones!
Marketing makes the world go round...
Gawceo has an army behind him! A retarded army that's fighting us for trying to save them. |
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@Tradenow said:
if paycoin decreases in value over time? Maybe 10$ instead of 20$ it would be a bad idea to stake?
That will not happen. Our floor, to keep it from going bellow $20, is too large at this point
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@mackattack said: If we are supplying the PayCoins to fill them?? Why do they cost money anyway?? They are just a wallet? Prime hashlets should get this feature forever??? Because it will cost our company 100,000,000 dollars to keep up with that stake rate  - Last I checked my raspberry can stake any amount for free |
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If I can agree that coinfire is exaggerating their claims can you agree their are some serious concerns with GAWminers that need to be addressed before anyone spends money on their cloud mining or ICO?
To be honest, Ive not been following the debate at all. Its only when I started compiling my cloudmining ponzi score list that I even looked in to GAW. Based on criteria I set forth there, yes there certainly are red flags. And I wouldnt be one bit surprised if there are many more, but I would like to get facts to base my opinion on, not "exaggerations" (which I think is too mild a term for what coinfire did if they had no source other than whats been posted here). Promising $20 isn't enough? |
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Even if he said "we're working with the largest retailers" , that is not at all the same as "[he] claimed publicly that the company and he personally have sealed up partnerships and deals with Target, Amazon, and Walmart about the coin and the company". Not even remotely.
Its not just the sealing up part, look at the "coin" part which coinfire made a huge deal of disproving. He never even suggested Amazon or Target was about to accept their coin as payment, regardless of what word you substitute for "unintelligible".
Forward looking statements are illegal. |
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Didn't these idiots begin by mining Bitcoin and now all their money is going into shitcoin. So they just turned their back on Bitcoin? Good riddance. If they had any commitment their greed wouldn't take over and make them lose everything.
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"I will say on a general level, we're working on getting Hashlets into mainstream stores, it won't be long before you'll walk into Target and see hashlets, it won't be long before you go on walmart.com, we're *unintelligible* with the largest etailers in the country, that's our main strategy.. is to actually get em in mainstream stores."
I hate to be defending GAW, but the above statement is not the same as what coinfire wrote: "Recently the CEO of GAW Miners claimed publicly that the company and he personally have sealed up partnerships and deals with Target, Amazon, and Walmart about the coin and the company."
They link that to that same cryptocoinsnews article that doesnt even mention any of these companies, and clearly in the conference there is no mention of sealed deals. Josh says or insinuates many many things then deletes it so it doesn't come back to him but to the shills repeating it http://gawminers.eu/news/think-figured-joshs-plan/ |
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 Can't even spell correctly |
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Didn't these idiots begin by mining Bitcoin and now all their money is going into shitcoin. So they just turned their back on Bitcoin? Good riddance. If they had any commitment their greed wouldn't take over and make them lose everything.
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I think what it is in reality is, is snake oil. The author himself said it yesterday or before, when someone had the audacity to ask for more information before today, as to what exactly it is we are buying; the response was, well you can't have details of something that has been offered yet, and you can either buy it tomorrow or not. Our customers trust us and believe we deliver what we promise, so there. Trust me and buy it or don't.
Isn't snake oil a fake product t begin with? In this case he offers something he vouches for, that to you may seem fake, but at the same time can turn out to be real. If you trust in snake oil you are bound to lose money, with GAW the outcome is unknown, so a better comparison is gambling. So paycoin will reach $20 next month and Bitcoin isn't viable? |
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Yes, the number of HashStakers is limited each round. After the three or six month period they expire and you have to buy new ones again. If PayCoin increases in value the cost of the HashStakers will go up. ROI on 3 month staker supposed be 2.5 months and on 6 month staker 4.5 months. So .5 month or 1.5 months "profit."
Can you post a link where those ROI numbers a coming from? It sounds crazy that a $20 coin can earn $10 in interest in 2.5 months. It was here: https://hashtalk.org/topic/20275/the-hashstaker-is-hereBut now coming up a 500 internal error. I had to reboot computer and did not PDF the page before rebooting. Josh says or insinuates many many things then deletes it so it doesn't come back to him but to the shills repeating it http://gawminers.eu/news/think-figured-joshs-plan/ |
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