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3161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 11:27:37 PM
i have 5000 lisk in my account it is not real ??

well technically it's real.  But that testnet lisk has no value.
3162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 10:09:26 PM
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/lisk/#markets

http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bloombit/

new exchange added pre-launch lisk

$2 instead of $6 if someone considering buying before its rocket.

yeah, java is not javascript. java is black, bitter and with coffeine, javascript is a script made of java  Wink
how to diposit lisk in exchange it not work in yobit and bloombit ??

You gotta login and go to the deposit page and press the refresh button 1001 times.  On the 1001 time you will be allowed to deposit.  They want it to make it fair cause lisk is so hot now!
3163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 09:54:49 PM
Hi, is there any word on the redistribution of the the Lisk that was bought by the refunded 80 btc and 2mil Crypti? Will it be done before the bounties/ bonuses are received?

it's already calculated into your current lisk total.  Only thing missing is the bounties.
3164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 09:25:51 PM
...after all POW is actually secure.

We agree.   PoW is actually secure.

BUT...  PoW is an incredibly inefficient and wasteful way of obtaining that security, and requires trillions upon trillions of wasted hashes per blocktime.  The key point is DPoS Lisk obtains blockchain security levels equal to that of PoW Bitcoin or Ethereium with ONLY ONE hash per 10 second blocktime, NOT trillions of hashes like BTC or ETH.

That's why Lisk is being valued so highly.


LISK represents BOTH a revolutionary way to secure a blockchain AS WELL AS a revolutionary easy way to create sidechains and dapps.

Lisk is superior to Ethereum on both counts.  Period.
I know you know all these points by heart, and you're good at delivering them. But DPOS is not the panacea you think it is. If it were, every currency would move to it.
1. Regarding resilience, how do you guard against a DDOS attack on the 101 delegates?
2. Regarding decentralization, how do you prevent a Sybil attack of delegates?
3. Regarding incentives, long term, how do keep your voters interested in nominating the delegates?


Ans. 1. You can't 2. You can't 3. You won't


1. Regarding resilience, I can guard against a DDoS attack by letting a big-ass firewall system pass just data from the other 100 IP addresses I know are from my fellow delegates.  I don't have to respond to every packet thrown my way and so fall behind with my blocktime tasks.  A DDoS doesn't have to overwhelm 101 delegates; it has to overwhelm 101 big-ass firewall systems protecting those delegates.  That's a much tougher problem.

2. Regarding decentralization, I can examine each of the 101 delegates that are initially selected and make sure they are 101 individual people, then apply the same scrutiny to the trickle of replacements as they come along.  Hey, I personally am doing that right now - take a look:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWcV-xWRpetdmqZ0SaI9oizulee8ZDnF-q4B4_zCCn8/edit#gid=0

3. Regarding incentives, I've got a 1000 BTC whale, two 720 BTC devs and a 300 BTC dolphin that will protect their investment by making  sure that good Standby Delegates are promoted as required.  

So...

Ans. 1. We can 2. We are 3. We will



Lol mal,  the most connected man in Lisk.



lol sorry i'm not an artist
3165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 09:12:05 PM
Hi,

I've some problem to create an aacount on https://login.lisk.io/.

I push the buttom "New account", I save the passphrase and when it ask me to confirm the passphrase, she never match (and I use ctrl+C/ctrl+V).

What's going on ?

I'm with Ubuntu 14.04


The trailing space maybe

I think the official node login.lisk.io was down this morning.  You might have tried while it was having issues.  It has come up and been good for a little while now.
3166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 08:45:47 PM
Official Statement regarding YoBit trading “IOU” LISK tokens

We have released an official statement on our blog regarding the YoBit "IOU Tokens" early trading.

In summary, we are not endorsing the trade of non-existing LISK.

It is advised to wait until the official launch of Lisk. Once it's launched, Lisk will surely be added to reputable exchanges where the risk of theft and fraud is lower.


do you chums have a slack or irc channel?  tia

We also have a Reddit where we update with all important news and announcements Smiley

Subscribe here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Lisk/
is this an official channel?

Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the official lisk subreddit
3167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
well you tell me what the hell "js" stands for? bwaahahaah

Node.js runs stand-alone JavaScript programs.  ...does ORACLE know that you are doing this?  lol

Please don't tell Oracle  Cry btw, for idiots like you: http://www.tutorialspoint.com/execute_nodejs_online.php


why not? whos to say i don't moonlight for them? ...also whats with the dead link? (:

Who's to say we give a shit about you? Nobody gives a fuck about your retarded opinions.  Go stroke Vitaliks dick and GTFO.


seriously you are walking into a trap...i have friends at Oracle (:   now what was that?

NOBODY GIVES A FUCK, What do you think your friends at Oracle are going to do?  They are going to pound sand.  You are just an egotistical asshat who thinks people should respect you because you think you have knowledge or friends.

You don't even know who I am, I have friends in high places also.  Just because you say your friends work at Oracle does not tell me shit, they could be the fucking janitor at Oracle.
3168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 08:14:33 PM
People stop this Java vs JavaScript thing. They are completely different languages used for different things.

lol it's not like we bring it up.  Usually it starts like this.

Noob:  Hey guys I didn't read anything but doesn't ETH do the same thing with javascript
US: STFU JAVA and JS are not the same thing
Noob: huh? I'm to smart to follow what you just said, I'm going to argue now.
Cannabanana: time to start flipping out now
3169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 08:11:19 PM
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/lisk/#markets

http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bloombit/

new exchange added pre-launch lisk

$2 instead of $6 if someone considering buying before its rocket.

yeah, java is not javascript. java is black, bitter and with coffeine, javascript is a script made of java  Wink

Java = Folgers
Javascript = Starbucks
3170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 08:02:10 PM
well you tell me what the hell "js" stands for? bwaahahaah

Node.js runs stand-alone JavaScript programs.  ...does ORACLE know that you are doing this?  lol

Please don't tell Oracle  Cry btw, for idiots like you: http://www.tutorialspoint.com/execute_nodejs_online.php


why not? whos to say i don't moonlight for them? ...also whats with the dead link? (:

Who's to say we give a shit about you? Nobody gives a fuck about your retarded opinions.  Go stroke Vitaliks dick and GTFO.
3171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 07:59:20 PM
...after all POW is actually secure.

We agree.   PoW is actually secure.

BUT...  PoW is an incredibly inefficient and wasteful way of obtaining that security, and requires trillions upon trillions of wasted hashes per blocktime.  The key point is DPoS Lisk obtains blockchain security levels equal to that of PoW Bitcoin or Ethereium with ONLY ONE hash per 10 second blocktime, NOT trillions of hashes like BTC or ETH.

That's why Lisk is being valued so highly.


LISK represents BOTH a revolutionary way to secure a blockchain AS WELL AS a revolutionary easy way to create sidechains and dapps.

Lisk is superior to Ethereum on both counts.  Period.
I know you know all these points by heart, and you're good at delivering them. But DPOS is not the panacea you think it is. If it were, every currency would move to it.
1. Regarding resilience, how do you guard against a DDOS attack on the 101 delegates?
2. Regarding decentralization, how do you prevent a Sybil attack of delegates?
3. Regarding incentives, long term, how do keep your voters interested in nominating the delegates?


Ans. 1. You can't 2. You can't 3. You won't


yea, best answers ever.
3172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 07:40:17 PM
mining is not stupid, its classic art of crypto,

Mining is stupid.  

Mining was a way to get cryptocoins started, just like sails and coal steamships were a way to get international commerce started.  Today, container ships rule.  So will Lisk.

Mining is stupid.
Mining is not stupid. Mining is a legitimate way to attract nerds to crypto. It is an art form. Assembling a GPU miner, configuring the settings, connecting to a pool, seeing the coins arrive in your wallet- it's an unforgettable and very rewarding experience. It brings a sense of realism to these abstract tokens we're creating and trading. It also fosters a virtual ecosystem around the platform.

It's OK if Lisk does staking instead of mining. We'll just be attracting a different type of nerd to the foray. It would be useful to think about all the mutually beneficial ways one could earn Lisk, because you're not going to setup a virtuous economic cycle if everyone has to buy their way into a token. For a contextual example of this problem, see NXT.

I would argue that "buying your way into a token" is EXACTLY what is needed to create a "virtuous economic cycle".  BTC/ETH mining and even  Lisk forging is creating "money" from thin air.  The "unforgetable and very rewarding <mining> experience" you refer to is an illusion that makes the participant feel incorrectly like they have contributed something valuable to society.  Wasted crypto hashes generated by a miner are NOT like a bag of corn they grew or a car rolling off an assembly line where they welded the body together.  All a miner has done is wasted a lot of electricity, creating a lot of environmental pollution in the process.  They have also diverted trillions upon trillions of CPU cycles away from achieving something profoundly worthwhile like http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/.  All in the name of greed.

"Buying your way into a token" is code for "letting something represent a store of real value", which is what you do when you open a bank account or buy a prepaid debit card.  THIS is the fundamental kind transaction in our society, not "mining coins out of thin air".  If Lisk can start replacing bank accounts by "buying your way into a token", we will have a market penetration and success level we can only dream about.

Wasteful, unsustainable exponential-growth mining is a type of masturbation by Bitcoin and Ethereum nerds that will never produce a baby who will grow up to change the world.

Mining is stupid.

Everyone will have their opinion on mining, but remind you that without Bitcoin mining nobody be here.
It was groundbreaking, as was the steam engine in its days.

This.




money out of thin air ? lol you need a job on wall street!  Grin  ~this is BITCOINTALK  after all POW is actually secure.

security is only one side of the coin.  You can't just have security or bust as the only thing "going" for a coin.  More like Miners who spent a ton of money on rigs are now finding they are getting left in the dust.
3173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 06:50:54 AM
is that price on yobit, the same that will be at launch? 500k satoshi is crazy, this thing can start at 0.01 at launch if this is true

500k satoshis is nothing. 150 millions marketcap, that´s 1/10 of the Ethereum ATH marketcap.


https://ico.lisk.io/users/sign_in not loading :S

did not read the last 10 pages, maybe the answer is there, but, what i could think of, the devs deactivated the login, because many, MANY are trying to sell their passphrase to an actual yobit-price - without escrow or any other protection that is possible.

their node is down probably for maintenance.
3174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 06:26:44 AM
is that price on yobit, the same that will be at launch? 500k satoshi is crazy, this thing can start at 0.01 at launch if this is true

it almost hit 0.01 BTC, but no probably not.
3175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 04:59:11 AM
Fuck yobit for ruining my dreams of buying below 50k satoshi
3176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 04:05:40 AM
Greetings,

Where does one began... what a day gents.

Yobit pulled a fast one.. Noone, I mean noone
Saw this coming..

who would've thought Yobit been the one!

If Yobit pulled the same stunt Gatecoin had
done with Augar (IOU) then I can see why
Lisk being the 2nd largest ico raised in crypto history
 an exchange like Yobit would do such bold move.

For one
● Free publicity/ Yobit on the map now bcuz of it.
● Yobit is Lisk 1st home (trade exchange)
● Yobit makes a name for itself (if done right)
● Increase in traffic
● increase in btc transactions
● increase in volume
● Yobit/Lisk in the News Articles & Headlines of crypto news
● what appears to be an answer, a fix, some sort of a-work-around to Lisk delay
● Yobit filled a void
● Revived Lisk Momentum
● Capitalize off the fee transactions
● Yobit implemented a method that was already
    Successfully done by Gatecoin/Augar/IOU

This only the beginning of a trend that is about to set crypto-2.o-3.o projects separate from the rest..

 Gatecoin/Augur/IOU
  Yobit/Lisk/IOU
   

       which exchange will be next to follow this trend?


Peer2peer36o


yup. well start seeing token coins pop up as soon as a real project starts a bitcointalk thread.
3177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 03:23:29 AM
I heard a rumour theres a blackmarket for Lisk.

I've got a couple of ungenerated keys for 1123 coins each - anyone wanna buy?

 Roll Eyes sure you do
3178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 03:21:00 AM
How much was the ICO price per LISK? I am kind of late for the party.



18500 sat
3179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 03:19:42 AM
Why not to try make price 1 lisk : $10000..>>Huh  Cool HAPPPYYYYY.....!!!!

Maybe 2 year later

currency collapse this year 2016, 1 lisk = Cuba GDP
3180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: April 07, 2016, 03:11:57 AM
I got only 10 000 LISK. Do you think they will make me happy after launch?
How much does 500.000 dollar sounds? 1 house and a lambo

I got only 10 000 LISK. Do you think they will make me happy after launch?
How much does 500.000 dollar sounds? 1 house and a lambo
Yes a lambo

you guys better show proof of lambo once we become multi-Liskcoinaires.
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