BFL is trying their best!  (Master BFL Shill)   |
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How in the world do you lose 5,000 ASIC chips? They only shipped 15 Jalepeno's (prototypes)....
Are you sure Josh didn't use the majority of it for his own orders?
Where else do you think the recent network hashrate increase came from? Does Eligius (Josh's pool) show stats so we can look over the High Hash Rate users? |
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So after analysis of Josh's statements we have the following situtation:
The boards *might* be done.
There are no chips for the boards.
They *might* have chips by the end of the week, but no firm date for delivery.
They still need to get the firmware working, no time estimate for that either.
There *might* be electrical & physical issues with the new boards.
And of course, yet another "gonna ship next week." but only if everything goes perfectly in a project where almost nothing goes right.
How in the world do you lose 5,000 ASIC chips? They only shipped 15 Jalepeno's (prototypes).... Are you sure Josh didn't use the majority of it for his own orders? |
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Damnit K9! You have infected my friend DataPlumber with your dirty truths. How DARE you show him the past with FACTS. You total scumbag  ...what did you think would happen? Now DP is all confused and conceeding things. You people! @ DP BELIEVE...TRUST...let it "seep in" to your bones. (Master BFL Shill) |
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I was wondering what steps one might take in order to become a BFL shill? Is there a form to fill out? I want my jalapeños early and am willing to sell my soul to BFL to get mine so I can start mining before difficulty starts to suck.
So could someone PM me the URL for the application process?
Thanks in advance!
Just believe in your heart of hearts that Inaba will do no wrong. If he says something, it is always true. TRUST HIM. Just do it.® Yep, to be classified as a BFL shill on Bitcointalk, you must:
a) Be rational ✓
b) Be able to evaluate what you read without rage and bias ✗
c) Post according to your evaluation ✓
d) Not be mentally unbalanced ✓
That's the only requirements to be a BFL shill.
(Master BFL Shill) |
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Give Inaba your money! NOW
He WILL pull through...trust me. Just...trust me.
(Master BFL Shill)
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Garsh! I wonder why we've been delayed? It couldn't be because there was a problem, could there? Garsh!
The level of stupidity displayed by Syke and the crew is absolutely astounding. I mean, even a child can understand problem + delay = things not working. Seriously, what mental breakdown is required for someone to be so oblivious as to not understand the basic fundamental principal of cause and effect? I find it difficult to believe someone can be so incredibly stupid and still be able to use a computer. So that leaves willful trolling... which pretty much explains Syke and the rest. Thats right! There was just a delay in sending it to the post office and FCC for 7 plus months. These things happen! Why can't you folks understand and accept it? And that, folks, is why Syke, PuertoLibre, k9quaint, et al are complete wastes of humanity. They are the ones that wreck this forum for everyone else and prevent any sort of sane, rational, mature discourse.
Yes, we are total wastes of flesh, but he is not. Because he is "Special". That is why no one depends on us for delivery. Only on him. It is unfortunate that he has missed his shipping date more than 15 times. But this sort of things happen. ASIC are HARD. (Looks over at his Avalon ASIC and thinks those Chinese engineers must have super [genetically engineered] scientist working 24x7 to have made it in three months and ahead of schedule. What a fearsome people!) How can you expect Inaba, with more money weighing him down, and more resources....to complete it in such a short time?! Does he look genetically engineered to you?! He is a mere mortal! "Special" Mortals can only do so much in 170+ days. We don't all have access to ASIC engineers of that kind of quality and experience! (Master BFL Shill) |
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Just you and Kano. And you wouldn't even have him if Avalon had ponied up a free unit for him.
Shakes fist ANGRILY: "Thats not truuee!" You liar! You can totally give people an e-money printing machine and that will neither affect their income or their attitude. You ASSUME too much. You ASSume that they will make that e-currency into fiat USD and thereby affect their opinions. Where is your proof of that? HUH? Where? Post it Damnit!? (Master BFL Shill) |
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[read_count] => 0
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[matching_work_count24] => 50094
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I have a question: [STATS0] =>
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As I understand, one (20) of 24 miners is partially dead? Can other owners share stats of their units? Is this normal? How do we access those stats? (Do we even want to look? <gulp>) |
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I recommend trying to learn basic English before trying to debate me. You're pathetic it at.
LOL! It seems even native speakers have difficulties with the syntax. It's okay, hes human. To err, is to be human. |
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Smoothie, Two weeks is an incredibly short amount of time for BFL to answer their emails. It is appropriate that they put in alot of thought into each and every response. Even if they look the same, down deep in the HTML code, a piece of their soul is transmitted with each message. This takes time and a state of Zen. You have to understand that customers are asking difficult questions. They need more time to ponder on what these questions ultimately mean for them, the world and the Bitcoin community. ---------------- On the topic of the past, it's in the past. Just forget it ever happened. We all grow from each experience. Josh is not the same person he was yesterday. What he said before no longer applies today. Promises are meant to grow and change with time. Please understand. Please stop attacking Inaba with memories of times gone by. Please....I beg you. |
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Thats it. I am going to turn into a shill for the next week. I want to see what it feels like to be totally deluded and at the same time lie profusely. I think there must be ?a thrill? to it in causing other people irreparable harm? Or perhaps the verbal abuse and hard and unyielding facts of the past make it pleasurable to endure despite that? I suspect masochistic/sadist tendencies may grow out of my shill behavior...but lets see if people actually believe me when I tell them everything will absolutely be alright. -------Alright, Smoothie, give me your best shots. I will take you on single handedly. Josh is a saint and you should know better. You just try your best with your dirty truths....and facts...
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So as I expected there is NO GOOD REASON why BFL needs 2 weeks to respond to customer refund requests via email.
Other than not having enough funds to accomodate all the requests for refunds.
Prediction: The wait time for refund requests will grow over the next 4 months if BFL can't garner any new money to come and subsidize those wanting their money back.
<Runs into a raging frantic panic> NEVER SPEAK OF THIS....AGAIN.  BFL will never fold. There is always an idiot in the wings ready to save it with his hard earned cash! Folks your money is at absolutely no risk. Josh has said so. Josh is dependendable, reliable, trustworthy....and above all else, in it for the bitcoin community. He will never put anyone at risk. Smoothie is just thinking of the "worst case scenario". If worst comes to worse, I will buy BFL assets at .005 cents (or BTC) on the dollar. I cannot guarantee I will give anyone any of those assets. But I am sure that someone will. So rest assured, you have my word and that of Inaba. That is the full faith of the BitCoin <laughed uncontrollably while writing that> community. |
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Does anyone know what the delivery time is expected to be now if orded today? It seems to in constant flux.
If you ask Customer Service at BFL they will tell you one thing. If you ask the retarded Rep above, he will tell you what you want to hear. If you ask us, we will tell you....it is a long wait. |
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I am looking to buy 1 Avalon module (22Gh/s) for an Avalon. I will do all steps to verify a person actually has one.
At the moment, I am only accepting offers to see if the quotes are worthwhile and not uber exaggerated. Post your offers in BTC.
Sale must include a working hashing module (not damaged or dysfunctional) and include the special cable to connect the extra module. Keep in mind Avalon will be releasing and selling modules soon, so keep the prices in line with that thought.
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I hope that " Due to high number of messages, please allow 1-2 weeks for responses from office@butterflylabs.com" isn't people requesting refunds. I wonder if they have enough cash to refund all their pre-orders, or will it become first come first serve? If bASIC (a former competitor to BFL) is any indication of what happens as a company implodes.... I suppose it is a true First In, First Out type of situation when it comes to refunds. I am more interested in whether or not Paypal will do anything. Lets hope this man gets thrown to the front of the queue rather than jettisoned. Edit: 2 weeks is a shocking amount of time... |
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it's just impossible for people like you, who have a tenuous grasp on reality at best, to believe that rational people actually evaluate the situation and the facts in a coherent manner and come to the logical conclusion. Your little warped sense of reality doesn't really hold up to any sort of thorough or really even a cursory investigation.
You have absolutely no license or credibility to speak about having a firm grasp of reality. Folks, if you don't believe us and instead believe Inaba, PLEASE, read the past. It will give you absolutely all the answers you need. A troll would not say this. There is plenty to show, the mere claims made that we are idiots is nothing more than a ball of smoke to convince the most willfully ignorant. Do your homework before you invest in that company. When you do, come on here and tell us what you found and you will shed more light on the subject and counter many of Inaba's spurious claims. Some of us are more antagonistic than others because we already know better. Do your homework before you throw down thousands of dollars on these folks. Know their company inside and out before you pay at the checkout as you have only yourself to blame if you lose anything. Visit the BFL forums and go to the very first pages. Learn the truth! https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/index2.htmlhttps://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/index23.htmlhttps://forums.butterflylabs.com/jalapeno-single-sc-support/index11.html |
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if you are so offended, why not ask for a refund?
I've got a better idea. How about you pay the 1000 BTC for the bet you lost over blowing your power usage estimates. How exactly would that address Tehfiend's concerns. Oh that's right, it wouldn't. Because that's what a normal person does when they are unhappy with a companies performance. It's called "Vote with your wallet." Look it up. ...
BFL products are not priced in BTC, your analogy is irrelevant, you might as well have used the price of oil or gold as a comparison.
Yep, they were priced in USD, USD from 9 months ago. Ok, USD from 9 months ago... $1299.00 would be worth... wait for it... $1316.99 today. ( http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/) So yeah, might potentially be able to convince me that you would have paid $17 more back then than you would today. Oh... but wait... that might not work out so well for you. I can't quite put my finger on why... are you still debating this silly point?? is this the only argument you can win? That and every other debate I enter into. Disagree? Post evidence. Tired of people like you who make wild claims but are unable to back up their claims. Thanks for playing though.
You have an outstanding bet (on top of the BFL charity bet) for 1000 BTC to user Runeks.
Is that enough evidence for you not to ignore my post?
Someone quote me, he might have me on ignore lol.Ahh shit...someone is going for broke... Gambling with funds is bad for buisness. Mods, if these bets are not fulfilled, isn't it time for a scammer tag? 2000 BTC = 273,985.06679 USD |
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