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3161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA - the scheme is being pumped hard now don't fall for the trap on: December 06, 2017, 02:42:50 PM
Ah I see CFB - you are still not getting it.

Maybe because I still don't read long posts...

Isn't cryptohunter the scammer-cryptohunter?

Wow must be one of those legendary sock puppets that CFB said it didn't matter if he used to promote/pump iota with because bitcointalk was a dump and he will simply promote to those that did not know that had taken place outside of this board.

Are you asking a question? were you hoping for some tips on your next heist.... or you have some factual evidence to present that corroborates your false implication?

Present it now else retract your post. False scam accusations with no corroborating evidence/plausible case is cause for account closure.

I will accept even loosely corroborating evidence as me not reporting you for false accusation with no corroborating evidence or any real reason other than your love of the scheme iota.

I'll await your reply with eager anticipation.

Good to have an idea of the legend accounts involved....

Hmmm...looking at your trust-rating it seems so, but i am not entirely sure, it's already 18 months go. I remember Child Harold and another scammer, both (eventually even the same person) scammed 3-digits BTC at that time.



So you are not sure that I am a scammer now then. I see. So no evidence at all.

I don't give a care if you are sure. You can't insinuate some one is a scammer with no corroborating evidence or even some kind of logical reason that can be seen as reasonable.

That's like me saying are you the same ImI that is  into pedonecrobeastaphillia ...with no other details.

Then saying.. I'm not sure if it is you because I remember some other totally unrelated person (who may be related to you or anyone else in the world I dont know) was apparently into such a thing.

Child harrold ? is that the evidence you have that I am a scammer?  Am I linked to this person in any shape or form that you can present evidence for?

Completely ridiculous statement from a legend account should know better.

Go back to your 18month period where you are getting this from and bring one shred of evidence or admit you are just talking utter nonsense.

All diversion and nonsense.



3162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Want to invest for at least 1 year minimum In 2 choosen altcoins . I need tips! on: December 06, 2017, 02:22:15 PM
bitbay
blocknet
byteball

these look like real projects do your own research to confirm
3163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: CRYPTO BULLION (CBX) | Inventor of PoSP! | 2017 Road-Map PUBLISHED! on: December 06, 2017, 12:30:56 PM
Roadmap 2017-2018 status report!

Coding a complex masternode coin such as what CBX will be, while meeting some "outside requirements" is never an easy thing.

Things are once again looking a lot better now than at the last post, however.  The hashing issues we were having while wanting to keep the old blockchain were fourfold: to say it in crypto programming terms, they were: transaction offset problem, stake modifier problem, time spacing problem and checkpoint problem. I am being told that these 4 issues have now been addressed, and undergoing testing as we speak.  Looks like we will be able to keep the old blockchain going, and, more importantly, it's not going to cost us too much precious time.

I would like to welcome malafaya to the coding team. While very experienced outside crypto and a longtime fan of Crypto Bullion, malafaya is a programmer who wanted to know more about the intrincasies of crypo coding.  He has accepted to give us a hand with this project, and his contribution can be felt significantly already. Alex4J will continue to be the main coding developer of the Crypto Bullion project.

Good luck with this challenge, malafaya!

excellent news. Glad to hear we have another coder on board.
3164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [XC] Privacy Based Smart Chain with Automated Build System on: December 06, 2017, 11:50:59 AM
we are exchangeless or there is somewhere for xc now?

how about stocks.exchange  I hear they were adding coin from nova

Cryptopia would be good but i heard they got expensive lately.

Whats the latest with xc anyway been under the radar for months and years now
3165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which ALTS are the NEXT BIG THING? Add your Valid suggestion here now >>>>> POLL on: December 06, 2017, 11:35:07 AM
118 votes but still some way to go
3166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 06, 2017, 03:43:36 AM
Does the webwallet stake? perhaps that is an option?

No that wouldn't be right because they aren't verifying blocks. It requires an active connection to stake.

Ah okay David yes that makes sense.

3167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA - the scheme is being pumped hard now don't fall for the trap on: December 06, 2017, 02:58:52 AM
Ah I see CFB - you are still not getting it.

Maybe because I still don't read long posts...

Isn't cryptohunter the scammer-cryptohunter?

Wow must be one of those legendary sock puppets that CFB said it didn't matter if he used to promote/pump iota with because bitcointalk was a dump and he will simply promote to those that did not know that had taken place outside of this board.

Are you asking a question? were you hoping for some tips on your next heist.... or you have some factual evidence to present that corroborates your false implication?

Present it now else retract your post. False scam accusations with no corroborating evidence/plausible case is cause for account closure.

I will accept even loosely corroborating evidence as me not reporting you for false accusation with no corroborating evidence or any real reason other than your love of the scheme iota.

I'll await your reply with eager anticipation.

Good to have an idea of the legend accounts involved....
3168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which ALTS are the NEXT BIG THING? Add your Valid suggestion here now >>>>> POLL on: December 06, 2017, 02:36:21 AM
Technically not an altcoin but I'm going to go ahead and nominate CRYPTOKITTIES to the poll.

1. First blockchain game on Ethereum
2. First ever DAPP that, while pushing ethereum's transaction scaling issues, is a great example of why ethereum is a real working platform for smart contracts and dapps
3. Appealing to a massive demographic that allow's newcomers get familiarized with crypto in a fun and friendly way

I would like to hear others thoughts on this one since I have no idea about .... well anything about it.

How was it distributed?

is it even a project people can invest in?

It seems it has a REAL use case and is developed but the other 2 would need to be there....

If it meets the criteria in the OP

( i might need to update the criteria because I had assumed people would post projects where investment can be made) perhaps you can invest in crytpokitties and hold it like and alt I just hadnt looked at it or heard of it.

Sorry if these sound strange questions

I hope others familiar with it can chime in but sure it's possible to add if other think it meets the criteria or you can demonstrate it is suitable to be put with other REAL alt projects people can invest in.

thanks for the suggestion.
3169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which ALTS are the NEXT BIG THING? Add your Valid suggestion here now >>>>> POLL on: December 06, 2017, 02:25:59 AM
Perhaps there is one more point I can drive home about Byteballs design. It took me a while to see it and it is actually very fundamental. It is a point about Bitcoins relation to its mining pools: Bitcoin is as centralized as the central organizing/coordinating device of a mining pool.

Saying Byteball is centralized because of the witnesses is a doubtfull argument because:
A Bitcoin mining pool with 51% is the chain. Thats why they need to have several for decentralisation and it is mere social agreement that 51% is "Bad", but it certainly is centralisation. A (block)chain/line is the simplest geometry to represent TIME!
A witness shows direction of the DAG (directed Acyclo "meaning not ring/round" Graph) and therefore prevents cyclical states in the graph (No time/No Progression). So do the other witnesses and inform each other that they told some of the Byteball Bytes what time it is (by posting "units"/please refer to whitepaper for technical). Knowing time prevents the double spend. It also makes transactions fast fast fast.
In a sense you do everything yourself. No pool no nothing. But your witness tells you WHEN! you did it. So you know about NOW! Thats consensus.
Its fundamental. Its stupidly simple. Yet all Blockchains basically are a stupid linear clocks that hashes like crazy to prove you have done work and say what happend last. Because thats also how you distribute the Bitcoins and call it reward. And all you can do is walk a line and be in a chain. Thats why I call POW coins prisioners of work.

Byteballs 12 witness (the number is arbitrary and could be changed up or down within some limits) only sounds centralized. Perhaps it is not all arbitrary because we used 12 to tell time for a good portion of history. Would you really need even 12 Bitcoin Pools???

In the current state of Bitcoin you could almost stop the network by strategically taking out the mining pool coordinators of the biggest pool one after the other. In a sense Bitcoingold with its difficulty re-adjustment every block is no mear snake oil and may very well be way ahead of bitcoin ("Classic") if certain anti pool cenarios come to pass.... Likelyhood almost 0 unless someone wants to see crypto burn and goes after the pools.

I mined in a pool with a hd5830 when it still made sense and I already did point out how the Bitcoin Eco system did progress down to ASIC clusters mining lords that meet to agree and disagree on protocol changes (Segwit etc.) or forks.
For me bitcoin always was "the protocol". The mining pools were a way to contribute and recieve airdrop for the contribution. I never questioned the "why" because it was just the way it was. You have to mine and thats how you contribute and thats how you decentralise.


These 3 things:
1. decentralisation
2. distribution/Mining reward/airdrop and
3. contribution/community
where one thing.

Byteball has restructured them. Somewhat similar, somewhat radically different and somehow way more effective.

And it is by this that it is also no coincidence that the Byteball community is friendly, helpfull and not diseased with hype and buzz. A calm sense of progress is so symptomatic for Byteballs community and its organic growth. This is why so much was achieved in one year. 2018 may very well be a good year for Byteball. It takes time to be noticed by those who just have attention for the next Buzz. And why ask for attention If you can use it to grow the project?
Sorry if this implies a certain critic around the nature of this very thread  Grin It is not intended because getting 1000 votes is a worthy goal.

Let every sock puppet have a vote. Eventually we will trade fundamentals and Byteball will get over the pain of fast deployment (that Airdrop pressed on the value hard!). After all, magick internet money will be magick internet money.

...Listens to the song of the 🐋🐋 🐋 🐋 🐋 .....

Awesome post. Actually this is quite educational and interesting to many i'm sure. You don't even have to leave this thread for a nice over view of some of the projects design features and strengths.

These kind of posts actually do assist people in making up their minds to vote and it would be great if others made some posts like this about the other REAL projects. I know BB is so radically different perhaps from btc that it needs greater explanation since many of the others are based loosely around btcs design. But still a detailed hightlight of each project would be great.

1000 votes would be great. I have not seen many polls here reach that I think a few have. Perhaps over time we can exceed that and also scour for every REAL project out there. If we could (big if) grow this thread to be a real pit of analysis that separates real from vapor (not meaning they will never exist just do not yet) and outright schemes and scams it would encourage other projects to distribute well and produce working functional projects with real use cases as quickly as possible.

Also if we hear even a hint of scam or bad news coming along they can be removed and a warning placed straight away.

I get what you are saying about sock puppets too. I guess the only way would be to not have poll like this ..but the poll is created after review of view cast on thread and background analysis on each account especially low post new accounts, then the OP is updated manually. This would be quite considerable work and also still not 100%. Would be far more accurate though.

3170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which ALTS are the NEXT BIG THING? Add your Valid suggestion here now >>>>> POLL on: December 05, 2017, 03:23:16 PM
iota ...

Thank you, I was beginning to question my sanity because of "their" CMC spike in the last 48 hours. I was almost about to give a shit.

Honestly though, DAG1 isn't DAG2. Just like "democracy" 1 isn't the same as "democracy" 2.

@justin b. : Best of luck. Currently you should be more than compensated. Hope you know how a prisioners dillemma works. Hope you will never need the knowledge.

Centralisation in DAGs in general is somewhat new territory. I have heared conversations that pointed out that a DAG is by definition centralized and Byteball is the most centralized project among them all.

Weirdly enough being a Byteball witness is a loosing proposition because the tiny tiny "oh god" transaction cost, a guardian against spam/floud (remember it can and will scale and so will the floud) does not yet cover your expenses. Therefore Anton Churyumoff (Byteball lead developer) still runs most of the witenesses, except 2.

And noone is applying as far as I know. Why am I not concerned? Because their are enough hubs. And turning a hub into a witness is according to one of the witnesses (@portabella) trivial. Except you expect the witnesses to be "always on"! Any one user only needs one witness

By the way, a witeness cannot change a transaction. Just
validate seniority by timestamp.









Good information there.

Nice to get discussions going regarding the listed projects.

I am not a skilled conceptual designer nor coder actually not even technical enough to understand these designs at a deep or even semi deep level.

So it's nice to get cliff notes and descriptions of the tech given by different people.



I always wondered about xby if that was anything novel and worth a look. However I asked on another thread and someone said it was a load of ...how did he put it now..... " word salad" and hand waving. So that did sound promising at all since the guy sounded pretty much like a crypto buff.

Of course always good to have a 2nd opinion though. Anyone else analysed this who has the skill set to determine if it is design worth looking at? or just a load of word salad and nonsense?

Could be one under the radar although again not sure about the distribution of that either.

3171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA - the scheme is being pumped hard now don't fall for the trap on: December 05, 2017, 01:47:04 PM
Hi, cryptohunter, how are you these days?

PS: I made this post so you could publish another post and earn more money with your signature campaign. You didn't buy iotas, so you need another source of income and I want to help you with that.

Still can't read and comprehend English too well. I see.


Poor you. Maybe take some lessons.
Signature spam income may be of some help  Cheesy

Ah I see CFB - you are still not getting it.

I meant YOU need to brush up on your English comprehension. I can see why your puppet liquio has the same issues obviously.

Your diversionary tactics are not fooling anyone. The observable facts are still there for all to examine.

Blathering on about sigs is just a diversion and just adds to the fact you have no answer to the points raised in the OP.

Just so I don't get more annoying posts from you demonstrating you have not understood clearly.....

This sig does not earn me any money and has not for weeks. Is that a little clearer for you now. If I wanted to earn money from the sig then I would have changed it weeks ago.

But no more sigs discussion because that diversionary tactic is too obvious now .
3172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance... is this place a scam? on: December 05, 2017, 01:36:32 PM
looks like a dodgy exchange I would not keep more than a few bucks on it at any one time.
3173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which ALTS are the NEXT BIG THING? Add your Valid suggestion here now >>>>> POLL on: December 05, 2017, 01:34:06 PM
No IOTA listed... oh it's its cryptohunter Smiley

IOTA's security was badly broken, their devs are not trustworthy. Even if IOTA was not an obvious pump-and-dump ICO scam they would still not deserve to be in this list due to the low quality of their code.

These puppets are everywhere and far too obvious.

Lets not let them distract us by unproven centralised tech

3174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA - buy some more? on: December 05, 2017, 01:24:50 PM
Look at this thread.

Nothing but noob sock puppets of people that found out about crypto yesterday.

Iota is untest unproven centralised tech.

Nobody and no real company will actually ever go near it on any of their real projects unless it has been tested in a decentralised way for many many months.

byteball is 70x cheaper and they have displayed a better grasp on the dag technology as far as i know.

3175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 05, 2017, 01:20:44 PM
Does the webwallet stake? perhaps that is an option?
3176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which one is better, IOTA or NEXUS? on: December 05, 2017, 01:17:19 PM
there are few people here skilled enough to analyse the designs and say clearly which is better.

I would go 70 nexus 30 iota simply because iota is so expensive right now and it is unproven centralised tech.

If you must have DAG there are other options.

To me there are better options than both.

3177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA - the scheme is being pumped hard now don't fall for the trap on: December 05, 2017, 12:53:07 PM
Hi, cryptohunter, how are you these days?

PS: I made this post so you could publish another post and earn more money with your signature campaign. You didn't buy iotas, so you need another source of income and I want to help you with that.

Still can't read and comprehend English too well. I see.
3178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA - the scheme is being pumped hard now don't fall for the trap on: December 05, 2017, 12:01:36 PM
Hello, guys!  I heard that many have lost coins from their IOTA wallets. It`s true, I`m HODLing two thousand coins, but now I can`t check my balance. I have a suggestion that developers artificially reduce the number of coins in the market, creating a deficit.  Huh


Imagine when the co ordinator is switched off and these types of problems could become very real. Like you will have no way to get your coins back ever Sad

Oh well hope you  were not duped into buying at 5000 x ico prices

Youll have better luck starting your own thread detailing the issue.

I have no doubt for now that you will get your coins back for now... in the future (if the training wheels are ever removed) then you may not be so lucky.

3179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IOTA - the scheme is being pumped hard now don't fall for the trap on: December 05, 2017, 11:58:05 AM
Hi cryptohunter

New signature campaign? Nice job.

See ya
WOW fancy seeing you here. Where is CFB snoring curled up on your lap?

Can't iota get some new puppet accounts you do realise the same 3 or 4 supporters that are not zero post puppets make it look more shady right?

I may start a topic asking for the original iota investors (the handful of people on this board that found out about the ICO before it was over) to come forward. I wonder if we can get 100 non noob sock puppet accounts. I wonder if we can get 50  hmmm

NEW? that is weeks old and campaign was over ages ago.

hopefully a real decentralised project. You should look into one of those.

Must put a new signature on soon though but hard to find anthing that isnt an erc20 token or pseudo decentralised project with terrible narrow distribution.

I don;t have time to worry about sigs but luckily I have people like you to worry about my sigs for me .... to divert from the subject of the OP.

It would be good to let it rest and see how things work out when the co ordinator is removed..... lets hurry up and do that so we can see if it can work in a decentralised way for a few months without breaking.

Can you stop bumping these threads unless you have something to add that relates to the points in the OP?

Its called staying on topic.

Thanks.
3180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [QRK] Quark | POW/POS | 0.10.6.3 - New Self Moderated Thread on: December 05, 2017, 11:46:15 AM
what are we donating too ? someone lost their coins ? what happened
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