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31861  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 18, 2016, 10:14:02 PM
nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist

Wrong, I know this well beyond any doubt (reasonable or otherwise)

Both, prove that God doesn't exist, and prove that you know it.    Cool
31862  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 10:13:03 PM
God says gays are an abomination and you are commanded to murder them!

If you disobey God... are you truly a Christian?

But, if you follow God's command... you will surely be sent to prison, because God was wrong about homosexuality, and constantly contradicts himself over whether murder is right or wrong...


Fortunately, in the US at least, we have a system of laws which have nothing to do with religion... and if you kill a homosexual, you will not pass go and collect $200, but instead go directly to jail

Show this command for any Christian to do any murder. Rather, it is you who would lie to make atheism look good, and Christians look bad.

God's moral laws are against murder. Since atheists don't have any moral laws, they can legitimately do murder and lie about Christians... by their own legitimacy, of course.

Cool

How can you believe in something without even understanding it?

On one hand you are stupid enough to believe in this nonsense, and on the other, too stupid to even understand your religious dogma.

BADecker, what religion are you talking about?  Christianity, as established by the First Council of Nicea, right?

Or are you talking about some other Christian sect?  Maybe we are not talking about the same Christianity.


There you go again, making believe you know something about something, while you prove your own ignorance in every word. Sorry. In your case it isn't ignorance. It is downright deception and lies.

Come on, and give up your life of sin, and be saved for eternal life, through faith in Jesus.

Cool

So I guess it is fair to assume that you don't know.

So now I am supposed to know what you are talking about when you don't state it clearly? You don't even know what I am talking about when I DO state it clearly. So, you knock yourself a level below me by your own self-stated ignorance.

Cool
31863  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 18, 2016, 10:10:19 PM
Religion can be a touchy subject. We don't know if a god exists or not, so in my belief it's best to stay in between which would be agnostic.

The point is it should not be.  There is nothing, absolutely nothing sacred about these irrational beliefs.  

If someone can demonstrate that God physically (not just in their mind) exist, we can all move on and accept it.

If he existed we would not need faith.


Especially about the religious beliefs of the atheism religion.    Cool

Making new definitions as we go along....

BTW, I'm a humanist and anti-theist.  I'm pretty sure I'm not religious.

You believe that God exists? Starting when?    Cool

No wonder you have problem with Bible verses.  You cannot read and understand my posts.  But I'm not judging....I'll give a minute to google the terms...

You don't even seem to recognize that, nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist, and there is much evidence that He DOES exist, and so you set yourself up as God by making un-certifiable statements about your faith that God does not exist.

Cool
31864  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 18, 2016, 10:05:49 PM
Religion can be a touchy subject. We don't know if a god exists or not, so in my belief it's best to stay in between which would be agnostic.

The point is it should not be.  There is nothing, absolutely nothing sacred about these irrational beliefs.  

If someone can demonstrate that God physically (not just in their mind) exist, we can all move on and accept it.

If he existed we would not need faith.


Especially about the religious beliefs of the atheism religion.    Cool

Making new definitions as we go along....

BTW, I'm a humanist and anti-theist.  I'm pretty sure I'm not religious.

He's funny... thinks he can troll Atheists with, "you're a religion too"... rofl...

Then the only person you fool is yourself... who is the fool?

And you think that you can get out of the dictionary definitions that show atheism is a religion? Who does your typing for you, since you can't even read... and can barely think?

Cool
31865  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 18, 2016, 10:03:47 PM
Religion can be a touchy subject. We don't know if a god exists or not, so in my belief it's best to stay in between which would be agnostic.

The point is it should not be.  There is nothing, absolutely nothing sacred about these irrational beliefs.  

If someone can demonstrate that God physically (not just in their mind) exist, we can all move on and accept it.

If he existed we would not need faith.


Especially about the religious beliefs of the atheism religion.    Cool

Making new definitions as we go along....

BTW, I'm a humanist and anti-theist.  I'm pretty sure I'm not religious.

You believe that God exists? Starting when?    Cool
31866  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
God says gays are an abomination and you are commanded to murder them!

If you disobey God... are you truly a Christian?

But, if you follow God's command... you will surely be sent to prison, because God was wrong about homosexuality, and constantly contradicts himself over whether murder is right or wrong...


Fortunately, in the US at least, we have a system of laws which have nothing to do with religion... and if you kill a homosexual, you will not pass go and collect $200, but instead go directly to jail

Show this command for any Christian to do any murder. Rather, it is you who would lie to make atheism look good, and Christians look bad.

God's moral laws are against murder. Since atheists don't have any moral laws, they can legitimately do murder and lie about Christians... by their own legitimacy, of course.

Cool

How can you believe in something without even understanding it?

On one hand you are stupid enough to believe in this nonsense, and on the other, too stupid to even understand your religious dogma.

BADecker, what religion are you talking about?  Christianity, as established by the First Council of Nicea, right?

Or are you talking about some other Christian sect?  Maybe we are not talking about the same Christianity.


There you go again, making believe you know something about something, while you prove your own ignorance in every word. Sorry. In your case it isn't ignorance. It is downright deception and lies.

Come on, and give up your life of sin, and be saved for eternal life, through faith in Jesus.

Cool
31867  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 10:00:01 PM
God says gays are an abomination and you are commanded to murder them!

If you disobey God... are you truly a Christian?

But, if you follow God's command... you will surely be sent to prison, because God was wrong about homosexuality, and constantly contradicts himself over whether murder is right or wrong...


Fortunately, in the US at least, we have a system of laws which have nothing to do with religion... and if you kill a homosexual, you will not pass go and collect $200, but instead go directly to jail

Show this command for any Christian to do any murder. Rather, it is you who would lie to make atheism look good, and Christians look bad.

God's moral laws are against murder. Since atheists don't have any moral laws, they can legitimately do murder and lie about Christians... by their own legitimacy, of course.


Haven't you read the bible?

Quote from: Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

I haven't ever found the word "Christian" in that passage.    Cool    Why are you lying?

What are you smoking?

Does the bible use the word Christian even a single time?  Anywhere?

Why must you constantly prove your ignorance of anything that is actually in the bible?


The word, Christian, was not even invented until long after the bible was written

I can't really blame you for being ignorant. It's in your nature. Believers were called Christians first in Antioch, easily within the first hundred years after Jesus ascended.

Smiley
31868  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 18, 2016, 09:57:39 PM
Religion can be a touchy subject. We don't know if a god exists or not, so in my belief it's best to stay in between which would be agnostic.

The point is it should not be.  There is nothing, absolutely nothing sacred about these irrational beliefs.  

If someone can demonstrate that God physically (not just in their mind) exist, we can all move on and accept it.

If he existed we would not need faith.


Especially about the religious beliefs of the atheism religion.    Cool
31869  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 09:54:30 PM
God says gays are an abomination and you are commanded to murder them!

If you disobey God... are you truly a Christian?

But, if you follow God's command... you will surely be sent to prison, because God was wrong about homosexuality, and constantly contradicts himself over whether murder is right or wrong...


Fortunately, in the US at least, we have a system of laws which have nothing to do with religion... and if you kill a homosexual, you will not pass go and collect $200, but instead go directly to jail

Show this command for any Christian to do any murder. Rather, it is you who would lie to make atheism look good, and Christians look bad.

God's moral laws are against murder. Since atheists don't have any moral laws, they can legitimately do murder and lie about Christians... by their own legitimacy, of course.


Haven't you read the bible?

Quote from: Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

I haven't ever found the word "Christian" in that passage.    Cool    Why are you lying?
31870  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
God says gays are an abomination and you are commanded to murder them!

If you disobey God... are you truly a Christian?

But, if you follow God's command... you will surely be sent to prison, because God was wrong about homosexuality, and constantly contradicts himself over whether murder is right or wrong...


Fortunately, in the US at least, we have a system of laws which have nothing to do with religion... and if you kill a homosexual, you will not pass go and collect $200, but instead go directly to jail

Show this command for any Christian to do any murder. Rather, it is you who would lie to make atheism look good, and Christians look bad.

God's moral laws are against murder. Since atheists don't have any moral laws, they can legitimately do murder and lie about Christians... by their own legitimacy, of course.

Cool

In addition, since atheists are essentially dead in trespasses and sins anyway, it should really be open season on them. Why. Because you can't kill somebody who is already dead.
31871  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 09:44:26 PM
Christians tell them they will go to hell...

They will if they don't accept Jesus Christ. That's the case with all of us.  Smiley

So it is just like Islam then, "Submit or die"?

God doesn't want you to die but have an eternal life  Smiley

So why did he made me an Atheist and wants me to die and go to hell...

Just don't say he works in mysterious ways....

Are you being forced to post in this forum? No. Are you being forced to even read the things in this forum? No. In the same way, you are not being forced to be an atheist. It is your own choice.

Cool

Unlike you, I actually care about other people and I care about the truth.

You would tell this lie, of course. It's your way.    Cool
31872  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 09:43:22 PM
Christians tell them they will go to hell...

They will if they don't accept Jesus Christ. That's the case with all of us.  Smiley

So it is just like Islam then, "Submit or die"?

God doesn't want you to die but have an eternal life  Smiley

So why did he made me an Atheist and wants me to die and go to hell...

Just don't say he works in mysterious ways....

He didn't make you an atheist, He did you to be an Image of God. To be loved by Him and have an eternal life with him. Devil made atheism-ideology because he doesn't want you to be loved and saved  Smiley

You are going on the wall.

I'm an Atheist, and God made me in his image, so the God is an Atheist.  Shit, he has some confidence issues, he does not believe he exist himself.  You guys are nuts.

You are being shown by at least two of us here that you can change if you want. Perhaps you will, someday. But if you don't, it's because you ignored our invitation, voluntarily and willingly.

Cool
31873  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 09:40:25 PM
Atheists have almost never been pushed around by Christians. Rather, they have been invited, possibly scolded in a loving way, requested, enticed, and loved towards accepting and receiving eternal life for themselves.

Let's not mince words...

Christians try to push around everyone... the gays for example...

Christians try to force their religious beliefs on homosexuals... Christians tell them they will go to hell... tell them they can't get married... that's bullshit... who issues the marriage license?  The STATE not the church!  There are over 700 benefits that you are automatically granted by being married, such as shared property rights, and power of attorney when your spouse falls ill...

Christians think that if they are not allowed to hate homosexuals, that THEY are the ones being repressed... fuck that backwards ass logic... hypocritical idiots

Poor little atheist. Here you are, pushing against the loving cajoling that Christians do to, hopefully, push you into eternal life. Oh well. You are asking for destruction. It won't be fun. But we are running out of time for you. There are so many others who will listen and receive eternal life in joy with us.

Christians, please, a moment of silence for this lost soul.

Cool

Just because you as a Christian do not want to kill or harm people does not mean other Christians feel the same way.   Some would gladly kill babies, and gays.  Based on the Bible.  This is what we are afraid you lunatics can do because of your fucking Bible.

Here is a quote of one of your Christian brothers from another thread:


What I have problem is with people who try to tell me black is white.


But you don't mind telling everyone else that black is white.

Just like this guy saying "It says flat" and then posting quotes that don't say anything like that.

You can keep telling yourself that black is white, but don't expect me to agree.

Fuck, you are not getting it.

Take the Psalm 137:9 verse as an example. 

Tell me when is it ok to smash babies against the rocks?

You are ignorant of the Bible, so I'll go easy on you, but

When is it ok to kill gays?
When is it ok to own other human being?
When is it ok to kill someone because they worked on Sabbath?

I really would like to know, how can you rationalize the above?

Forget the crazy shit on page one, the creation story.  I hope you don't believe world was created in 6 days.  I'm assuming all Christians rationalize that one as a metaphor. 

It is ok to smash babies against the rocks if they come from an adultery of your wife.

Yes, it is fully ok to kill gays.
It is ok to own other humans when they commited a sin, or if their race make that they suit to this usage.

I don't know about working on Sabbath, please give us the full quote and I'll be able to help you understand the Truth Smiley.

So it's ok to kill a child if your wife cheated on you? Like it's the fault of the baby?
You seem like a totally crazy pile of shit but please go on and bring wisdom on this, and try to see how it's possible for this to be true:
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)

Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)

Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)

Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)

There aren't any Christians in the Old testament. There aren't any marching orders for Christians in the Old Testament. For Christians, the only thing the Old Testament is for, is to show them the moral laws, and to teach them How Jesus Christ was predicted from the beginning times.

Atheists, on the other hand, don't have any moral law guidelines. That's why atheists have done by far the most killing and torture of all people against other people - Stalin, Hitler (who faked his Christianity for political purposes), Mao, etc., etc.

Cool

BADecker,  

I'm talking about Christian members (Losvienleg)on this forum who read your fucking Bible and would gladly kill gays or babies or own slaves.  Your Bible is evil and your religion is evil.

Just don't tell me that people are evil and your religion is not.  Your religious dogma is an evil ideology.




There are false Christians who make mistakes, like killing. There are even real Christians who make these kinds of mistakes. But by your language in your post I am quoting here, you are showing that, for your class of person, you would do the same or worse than any Christian who makes a mistake.

Cool
31874  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 09:37:55 PM
Christians tell them they will go to hell...

They will if they don't accept Jesus Christ. That's the case with all of us.  Smiley

So it is just like Islam then, "Submit or die"?

God doesn't want you to die but have an eternal life  Smiley

So why did he made me an Atheist and wants me to die and go to hell...

Just don't say he works in mysterious ways....

Are you being forced to post in this forum? No. Are you being forced to even read the things in this forum? No. In the same way, you are not being forced to be an atheist. It is your own choice.

Cool
31875  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 09:35:41 PM
Christians tell them they will go to hell...

They will if they don't accept Jesus Christ. That's the case with all of us.  Smiley

So it is just like Islam then, "Submit or die"?

The difference is, according to the words of their holy books, submit to violence if you are a Muslim, but submit to peace and eternal life in joy if you are a Christian.

Nobody can force anyone else to submit. All submitting is a truce for political reasons, even if the political reason is to remain alive for one more day. Jesus didn't submit to the politics of the Jews, and He died at their hands. But, His Father raised Him to life on the third day, because death didn't have enough strength to hold him.

Now, Jesus (Who is alive in Heaven) offers you eternal life, as well. Come take hold of Jesus salvation, and live in eternal joy with us... please, for your own good.

Cool
31876  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 09:29:02 PM
Atheists have almost never been pushed around by Christians. Rather, they have been invited, possibly scolded in a loving way, requested, enticed, and loved towards accepting and receiving eternal life for themselves.

Let's not mince words...

Christians try to push around everyone... the gays for example...

Christians try to force their religious beliefs on homosexuals... Christians tell them they will go to hell... tell them they can't get married... that's bullshit... who issues the marriage license?  The STATE not the church!  There are over 700 benefits that you are automatically granted by being married, such as shared property rights, and power of attorney when your spouse falls ill...

Christians think that if they are not allowed to hate homosexuals, that THEY are the ones being repressed... fuck that backwards ass logic... hypocritical idiots

Poor little atheist. Here you are, pushing against the loving cajoling that Christians do to, hopefully, push you into eternal life. Oh well. You are asking for destruction. It won't be fun. But we are running out of time for you. There are so many others who will listen and receive eternal life in joy with us.

Christians, please, a moment of silence for this lost soul.

Cool

Just because you as a Christian do not want to kill or harm people does not mean other Christians feel the same way.   Some would gladly kill babies, and gays.  Based on the Bible.  This is what we are afraid you lunatics can do because of your fucking Bible.

Here is a quote of one of your Christian brothers from another thread:


What I have problem is with people who try to tell me black is white.


But you don't mind telling everyone else that black is white.

Just like this guy saying "It says flat" and then posting quotes that don't say anything like that.

You can keep telling yourself that black is white, but don't expect me to agree.

Fuck, you are not getting it.

Take the Psalm 137:9 verse as an example. 

Tell me when is it ok to smash babies against the rocks?

You are ignorant of the Bible, so I'll go easy on you, but

When is it ok to kill gays?
When is it ok to own other human being?
When is it ok to kill someone because they worked on Sabbath?

I really would like to know, how can you rationalize the above?

Forget the crazy shit on page one, the creation story.  I hope you don't believe world was created in 6 days.  I'm assuming all Christians rationalize that one as a metaphor. 

It is ok to smash babies against the rocks if they come from an adultery of your wife.

Yes, it is fully ok to kill gays.
It is ok to own other humans when they commited a sin, or if their race make that they suit to this usage.

I don't know about working on Sabbath, please give us the full quote and I'll be able to help you understand the Truth Smiley.

So it's ok to kill a child if your wife cheated on you? Like it's the fault of the baby?
You seem like a totally crazy pile of shit but please go on and bring wisdom on this, and try to see how it's possible for this to be true:
Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV)

Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV)

Jeremiah 16:19
19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV)

Daniel 4:11
11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV)

There aren't any Christians in the Old testament. There aren't any marching orders for Christians in the Old Testament. For Christians, the only thing the Old Testament is for, is to show them the moral laws, and to teach them How Jesus Christ was predicted from the beginning times.

Atheists, on the other hand, don't have any moral law guidelines. That's why atheists have done by far the most killing and torture of all people against other people - Stalin, Hitler (who faked his Christianity for political purposes), Mao, etc., etc.

Cool
31877  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 09:14:16 PM
Atheists have almost never been pushed around by Christians. Rather, they have been invited, possibly scolded in a loving way, requested, enticed, and loved towards accepting and receiving eternal life for themselves.

Let's not mince words...

Christians try to push around everyone... the gays for example...

Christians try to force their religious beliefs on homosexuals... Christians tell them they will go to hell... tell them they can't get married... that's bullshit... who issues the marriage license?  The STATE not the church!  There are over 700 benefits that you are automatically granted by being married, such as shared property rights, and power of attorney when your spouse falls ill...

Christians think that if they are not allowed to hate homosexuals, that THEY are the ones being repressed... fuck that backwards ass logic... hypocritical idiots

Poor little atheist. Here you are, pushing against the loving cajoling that Christians do to, hopefully, push you into eternal life. Oh well. You are asking for destruction. It won't be fun. But we are running out of time for you. There are so many others who will listen and receive eternal life in joy with us.

Christians, please, a moment of silence for this lost soul.

Cool
31878  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Atheists Feel So Threatened on: February 18, 2016, 09:03:07 PM
Why most of atheists here on this forum feel so threatened that they have to attack against religious world view all the time?
Are they so insecure about their own world view? Why they are so scared?  Smiley

Atheists are neither threatened nor scared...

Atheists have been under attack from Christians since... well... forever...

Atheists are only now beginning to defend themselves against all the lies and slander that Christians have thrown at us throughout the centuries... It's self-defense

Atheists want to remove all the crazy laws that Christians have established in this country... like laws that allow you to murder your child in the name of religion (prayer in lieu of medical treatment)... homophobic laws... (previously slavery... look it up... Christians used the bible to support slavery!)... shall I bring up the witch-hunts (I live in the city where that happened)? 

Scared?  No... Tired of being pushed around?  Yes!

Atheists have almost never been pushed around by Christians. Rather, they have been invited, possibly scolded in a loving way, requested, enticed, and loved towards accepting and receiving eternal life for themselves.

They call an invitation to eternal life an attack against them. Well, it might be, since all atheists are asking for is death for themselves. Oh sure, they are so subtle about it, that they don't even recognize what they are doing most of the time.

Oh, well. Guess we'll simply have to let them have what they want. After all, even Jesus taught in ways that suggested to leave atheism, and other false religions, alone when their people were obstinately against eternal life. And He taught His disciples to shake the dust off their feet against unbelievers.

I mean. Who has time to live life? Certainly there are people out there who will accept eternal life when  invited. Allow those atheists to have the damnation they are asking for. Go after the people who will accept.

For you Christians who read this, remain strong in your faith. Read the Bible regularly, or listen to it on Bible tapes and CDs. That is where your faith comes from. The Holy Spirit works faith through His Word. Keep on keeping on. and find more people to reach with salvation when those you invite continually reject. We are a Brotherhood/Sisterhood aiming for the skies.

Cool
31879  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: February 18, 2016, 09:54:02 AM
The oldest near factual distance we can go back is barely 5,000 years. Carbon dating has proven itself unreliable. Sumer dating through the "pottery" method suggests an age possibly as far back as 5,000 years. And even that is not a certainty. We can tell that the earth is older than that, but we can't tell haw old beyond that. We absolutely have a lot of guesses, however. Since they are guesses, people who believe them as fact have a religion going for themselves.

Cool
Carbon dating is absolutely not unreliable whatever you say. And not only that but carbon dating is not the only method we use to date old things. It's plain stupidity to think that the world is 5k years old.

The fact that carbon dating is unreliable isn't my idea by any means. Google it.

Even tree ring and ice core samplings are judgmental in the ways they are used to date things.

We might be able to go back a little past 4,500 years or so, but beyond that, it becomes very unclear - dating pottery and written-on-clay fragments.

Lingual and genetic changes seem to trace back only to about 5,000 years. Beyond that even these kinds of datings become foggy.

What else is there other than guesswork?

Cool
31880  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 18, 2016, 09:46:13 AM
I don't have a proof that god exists, but I certainly hope He does! I'd prefer to think that theists commit mass murder because their gods tell them to, rather than the alternative.



Why would a theist commit mass murder if he had told his god to do it?    Cheesy
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