@ASICSRUS: Jeez, you better stop online gambling.
] LOL #TEST I'M GOING TO GET THESE CLOWNS!!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) $$$$BOOOMMM/\
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1 step ahead of you ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) already done it as soon as my pool upgrades are done there will be a few joining awesome stuff here mates~*~_$BTE_~*~ bid.ask is hugeeee right now buying up cheapies!=) keep up the good flow/\
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the worst thing about of chain betting sites like just diced r that the owner knows the secret seed and can bet against his investors and steal all of the money at any time. the owner could make it look like thata random user came in and won all of the btc but really it was the owner stealing.
This is not a "feature" for the off the chain games, the same applies for the on the chain games. Open the verification page at satoshidice and you will find this: "In order to ensure that there is no way for the system to change the outcome of a bet, the secret keys used are decided ahead of time. They are not released right away, since they could be used to submit selective transactions and win bets unfairly". To solve this we need a new method for picking the results, while still maintaining the provably fair part. the only sure way i see is to have a live feed of someone actually throwing dice! How can the player know the dice is not loaded ? How can the player know the throws are not using some mechanism to make the dice land at a certain value ? Also, how can the player even know the entire throw was done in a live feed ? Maybe just part of the throw is, the other is not. even loaded dice would produce fairer results than these scam sites! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) imho
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STUNNA PLEASE REPLY!!!
*Brand new account 1st spin screen goes white and this!!! >>>> BET AMOUNT 2x MAX PROFIT ON WIN ROLL UNDER TO WIN 91.00 PAYOUT 1.0879x WIN CHANCE 91.00% ROLL DICE BALANCE 0.00438319 DEPOSIT CASHOUT MY BETS ALL BETS HIGH ROLLERS BET ID USER TIME BET PAYOUT GAME ROLL PROFIT 153520178 (21) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00361904 3.00000 <33.00 33.33 -0.00361904 153520178 (21) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00361904 3.00000 <33.00 33.33 -0.00361904 153520074 (20) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00120234 3.00000 <33.00 57.53 -0.00120234 153519976 (19) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00039945 3.00000 <33.00 44.41 -0.00039945 153519886 (18) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00013271 3.00000 <33.00 75.85 -0.00013271 153519805 (17) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00004409 3.00000 <33.00 95.14 -0.00004409 153519718 (16) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00001465 3.00000 <33.00 41.59 -0.00001465 153519639 (15) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00000487 3.00000 <33.00 56 -0.00000487 153519565 (14) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00000162 3.00000 <33.00 61.3 -0.00000162 153519495 (13) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00000054 3.00000 <33.00 98.78 -0.00000054 153519444 (12) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00000018 3.00000 <33.00 33.29 -0.00000018 153519371 (11) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00000006 3.00000 <33.00 43.62 -0.00000006 153519245 (10) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00000002 3.00000 <33.00 83.63 -0.00000002 153519125 (9) scoobydoobie 15:10 0.00000002 3.00000 <33.00 23.95 +0.00000004 153519000 ( ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) scoobydoobie 15:09 0.00000018 3.00000 <33.00 10.53 +0.00000036 153518928 (7) scoobydoobie 15:09 0.00000006 3.00000 <33.00 81.9 -0.00000006 153518822 (6) scoobydoobie 15:09 0.00000002 3.00000 <33.00 65.19 -0.00000002 153518673 (5) scoobydoobie 15:09 0.00000162 3.00000 <33.00 31.89 +0.00000324 153518586 (4) scoobydoobie 15:09 0.00000054 3.00000 <33.00 88.08 -0.00000054 153518499 (3) scoobydoobie 15:09 0.00000018 3.00000 <33.00 62.72 -0.00000018 153518438 (2) scoobydoobie 15:09 0.00000006 3.00000 <33.00 66.26 -0.00000006 153518376 (1) scoobydoobie 15:09 0.00000002 3.00000 <33.00 77.74 -0.00000002
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Physical CENTs are nearly ready for shipping and only $10. http://andarazoroflove.org/physical-cents-are-here-shipping-this-weekend-cryptocurrency-coolstuff/You can order with BTC, LTC, PPC, NMC, DVC, XPM, or PayPal via CoinPayments.net. Free shipping in the US and Canada, and final product shipped will be in a coin capsule and includes 1000 CENTs loaded on it! All orders this week will ship on Saturday, or day of ordering after that (I've got to go to New Mexico again for a few days and will be back Saturday. There are only 40 available in this first batch and 9 of them are spoken for. If they all sell, I will be ordering them in Silver next time. selling pennies for 10bucks!~WOW why didn't i think of that? LOL ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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What type of in house action bots do you use during and prior to spins?
huh? not sure what you mean here Not necessarily a complaint actually happy with results but I noticed while recording action there during rewind action was occurring on occasion that appeared not to be real action. Reason I say this the action would stop around a number that was between what I need to win based on the sliding scale. I was just curious what form of bots if any are activated on your end to show such action. regards LOL good one you are on to the scheme!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) haha
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the worst thing about of chain betting sites like just diced r that the owner knows the secret seed and can bet against his investors and steal all of the money at any time. the owner could make it look like thata random user came in and won all of the btc but really it was the owner stealing.
This is not a "feature" for the off the chain games, the same applies for the on the chain games. Open the verification page at satoshidice and you will find this: "In order to ensure that there is no way for the system to change the outcome of a bet, the secret keys used are decided ahead of time. They are not released right away, since they could be used to submit selective transactions and win bets unfairly". To solve this we need a new method for picking the results, while still maintaining the provably fair part. the only sure way i see is to have a live feed of someone actually throwing dice! hmmm ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) *watch!*
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here's a possible cheat for a site: change the game the user played. If the user bets on "high" ("red") and the result is a win, just pretend he bet on "low" (or "black" or whatever), so the result is a loss. Or change any other parameters of the game, such as odds. Keep everything else (hashes, etc.) the same.
The user would know he'd been cheated, but (s)he would have no way of proving it to anyone.
This problem does not exist with on-chain gaming sites, where the bets are made publicly.
I think this can be solved by introducing used-side private keys and randomness, but this complicates the verification considerably
or am I missing something here?
https://ice-dice.com we don't roll high or low. you select a range to guess the number. you can choose 25-75 and if the number lands in between that you will win. get out of here with that noise your site is rigged and you know it, plus you have major bugs/glitches! beta test with real btc?? Good Lord: you should go hide somewhere far away from here imo
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I take video. Now what?
Anyway, sites like JD, PD already have a client seed that you can change at will. The roll can only be determined from the secret server seed and your own seed.
secret server seed is the way they change at will ~ besides no one can even tell me who invented the "provably fair" term! = fffkin boatload of kool aid ! You can't change the secret server seed because that will change the hash you received earlier. Even if you find a collision, you would still need to find one that gives the same results along all the rolls. Regarding the origin of the term, I replied to you earlier. Here is the exact reply: """ An old enough reference: Constructive and Provably Fair Coin Flip in Byzantine Networks. B Awerbucb, B Char, S Goldwasser, S Micali - 1984. """ that referance is so old, what does that have to do with online dice fairness? +even your ggdice is rigged i can tell by playing for the past 5 minutes at 91% seeing multple RED in short order and whacks before key pivot points! gtfo! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) What's the problem with reusing meaningful terms that perfectly apply to the current use ? To me it's like saying the word "search" is too old and has nothing to do with online search. I'm not sure why I'm arguing with you, but can you at least say the actual user you played with ? If you're user 2296, you played with a payout of 3x, win chance of 33%, at room 1 with Fakecoins. You won 3 times and lost 5. Even if you lost all of them, or won all of them, that wouldn't make the game rigged. You can check your rolls online at http://jsfiddle.net/wn3CT/embedded/result/i set it to 91 percent and you see 3 red on the screen you know its bullshit ~come on turkey! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) LMAO
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It's been 3.5 weeks since Ice-dice.com launched and players have made over 500,000 bets already!
In order to celebrate this milestone, we are giving away 500,000 Satoshis to new users.
Just visit https://ice-dice.com and click on "Get Free 500,000 Satoshis" to get started. WHAT PART OF ONE THREAD PER SITE DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? + THE PROMO TWITTER THING DON'T EVEN WORK!!!LOL ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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promo still on? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Which map do you like best? (or none?)
i like the second one!~will there eventually be animated elements?what about hexegon type grid?..hmm ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) looking dope keep it up!/\ I also like Map number 2.. the 2 choke points would be good areas to "camp".. we are just a bit worried that the entire central area could be controlled... if we used Map 2, there would be only 2 banks in the opposite corners of the entrance to the centre square areas.. so it would be a massive long journey to get the coins from centre to the bank.. probably not animated.. maybe there can be 2 different sprites for facing left .. Hexagon grid is possible, but we aren't going to do it in this MAYBE it will look something like this: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2Fmc985h.jpg&t=663&c=Ln4mdSAgQ28RSg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F2wps8r4.jpg&t=663&c=-_hx9luDlwcG8w) LEGEND OF ZELDA!!! =) niceeee 1
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i'm invested here( added to my 5+ years invetment purtfolio) and very troubled by the operation/glitches of the site and especially your ethics, you still need to send that bitcoin btw! ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) 1. you are a troll 2. you are not an investor 3. what kind of glitches other than 2/3 impossible loosing streaks thats you been having? listen noob!, yes i'm invested and happily pass on your info to the Security Exchange Commision, i'll be happy when i see that 1 BTC you still have'nt sent. Producing and promoting fraudulent gambling sites is not very cool in my book! ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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I take video. Now what?
Anyway, sites like JD, PD already have a client seed that you can change at will. The roll can only be determined from the secret server seed and your own seed.
secret server seed is the way they change at will ~ besides no one can even tell me who invented the "provably fair" term! = fffkin boatload of kool aid ! You can't change the secret server seed because that will change the hash you received earlier. Even if you find a collision, you would still need to find one that gives the same results along all the rolls. Regarding the origin of the term, I replied to you earlier. Here is the exact reply: """ An old enough reference: Constructive and Provably Fair Coin Flip in Byzantine Networks. B Awerbucb, B Char, S Goldwasser, S Micali - 1984. """ that referance is so old, what does that have to do with online dice fairness? +even your ggdice is rigged i can tell by playing for the past 5 minutes at 91% seeing multple RED in short order and whacks before key pivot points! gtfo! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Is the promotion open again since the closing isn't mentioned in your first post anymore?
Sorry, as both stated in this forum and the one on the site, the second round of payout has not begun yet. I will alert everyone as to when it starts. Expect it to be about a week. kewL~ can i still submit and get credit'd later? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) many thanks! Not at this time. Submissions are still open but just not getting payouts. So all listings/reviews/categories you wish to submit are just helpful for me. I will alert everyone to when payouts may begin again. so ones i submit will be payed out later?...or umm i'm confused ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) lol thanks No, you won't get rewards later. ok well then wait >> [-reserved-] ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) easyyyyy
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i'm invested here( added to my 5+ years invetment purtfolio) and very troubled by the operation/glitches of the site and especially your ethics, you still need to send that bitcoin btw! ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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I take video. Now what?
Anyway, sites like JD, PD already have a client seed that you can change at will. The roll can only be determined from the secret server seed and your own seed.
secret server seed is the way they change at will ~ besides no one can even tell me who invented the "provably fair" term! = fffkin boatload of kool aid !
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DEAD THREAD! ~ no free nuttin!
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Is the promotion open again since the closing isn't mentioned in your first post anymore?
Sorry, as both stated in this forum and the one on the site, the second round of payout has not begun yet. I will alert everyone as to when it starts. Expect it to be about a week. kewL~ can i still submit and get credit'd later? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) many thanks! Not at this time. Submissions are still open but just not getting payouts. So all listings/reviews/categories you wish to submit are just helpful for me. I will alert everyone to when payouts may begin again. so ones i submit will be payed out later?...or umm i'm confused ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) lol thanks
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Which map do you like best? (or none?)
i like the second one!~will there eventually be animated elements?what about hexegon type grid?..hmm ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) looking dope keep it up!/\
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