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321  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: August 01, 2014, 12:40:13 AM
bitsta... can you please clarify (i'm having a little trouble deciphering the OP).

-how many coins sold during the IPO?  (total coins, both phases)
-how many total coin supply?

thanks!

hi Primitive,

total coins which will be sold in BOTH Proof of Investment stages = 1.500.000 ROOT
total coin supply = 3.000.000 ROOT

322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: August 01, 2014, 12:14:23 AM
50% IPO seems so high.. Wont the coin get dumped as soon as the price go up? 50% of total marketcap already in the hands of a few dozen people Huh

Whats the algo going to be?

The initial distribution is well planned. The cheap initial price provides a good base for a healthy future market.
I am happy and calmed to see 50% of the coins in the hands of +100 serious investors instead of some big miners..

regarding the community-votes it looks like we re going to us the scrypt algo.

regards,
bitsta
323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 11:18:04 PM
2nd PoI stage available ? can i sent btc ?

yes it s available.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

this is the BTC address for the investment payments: 

1K9VsgtUXDaYNbJCVuH6nRtNvSZfTqmTCa

regards,
bitsta
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Thank you!
Check PM from me please

OP updated.
324  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 10:08:04 PM
2nd PoI stage available ? can i sent btc ?

yes it s available.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

this is the BTC address for the investment payments: 

1K9VsgtUXDaYNbJCVuH6nRtNvSZfTqmTCa

regards,
bitsta
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325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 09:58:29 PM
i think we need a long pow phase,10k root coin per day,tatal 90 days is very reasonable.

as far as i know,some miners have zero electric charge.if the supply is plenty,rootcoin will be dumped in days.

that will hurt the investors who pay 0.5 btc for a package.

I think 30 days is reasonable for this coin, but I'm open to other interpretations =)

I think with the amount of interest this coin has generated from both a mining perspective and from investors it is reasonable to assume that a large number of individuals will get in on the early mining phase as a way to get invested in this coin.

After the first 2 weeks though I personally would be unsure whether to keep mining this coin without a more concrete knowledge of the value, so after that I would probably point my miner back to known value coins. I believe that other miners would also operate like this, and if they do, the majority left mining would be farms which take longer to find out about coins like this but then once they do, they usually hit it hard. That usually happens at around the 2 weeks point. Just look at Shadowcoin, it was planned for a 30 day POW phase, but after 12 days it got hit with a heavy amount of hashing from unknown sources and so it cut the POW phase short.

I think this is an example of why a shorter POW phase for a coin like this will result in better distribution by encouraging individual miners who get in early to solo mine, rather than the big farms and pools taking over after a couple if weeks and making it hard for the little guys to mine any coins.

My 0.02 ROOT

thanks alot for your input!
326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 08:47:34 PM
6 packages already gone....

so these new packages are at 2x the original offering price?  just want to clarify.

correct.
327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 08:42:27 PM
Due to the high demand (1st PoI sold out in under 24h) and multiple requests from users/investors we will
launch a 2nd PoI stage with 100 packages for 0.5 BTC each.

The 2nd PoI is representing 16.3% of the total cap.


Final specification will be: 50% PoI   |   30% PoW   |  20% PoS


AWESOME!!!

6 packages already gone....
328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 08:26:37 PM
Due to the high demand (1st PoI sold out in under 24h) and multiple requests from users/investors we will
launch a 2nd PoI stage with 100 packages for 0.5 BTC each.

The 2nd PoI is representing 16.7% of the total cap.


Final specification will be: 50% PoI   |   30% PoW   |  20% PoS
329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 06:58:34 PM
Are you kidding me?? ROOT will be the MOST fair coin, this is obviously

Top 55 mans own 33% of ROOT coins
Top 10 mans own 31.22 % XC (1,723,489 XC)
Top 15 mans own 33% CLOAKcoins

I can continue...you can check another most successful coins

Just LOL. What are you talking about guys


yeah we have a great distribution. thats visible.

 The last 50 packages will be
sold for +50% of the initial price to provide a benefit for early investors.

who (from where)are the last 50 packages?

check the blockchain if you re not sure. tx's are sorted chronological.

(i will provide a sorted list within the next days.)
330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 04:00:51 PM
Are you kidding me?? ROOT will be the MOST fair coin, this is obviously

Top 55 mans own 33% of ROOT coins
Top 10 mans own 31.22 % XC (1,723,489 XC)
Top 15 mans own 33% CLOAKcoins

I can continue...you can check another most successful coins

Just LOL. What are you talking about guys


yeah we have a great distribution. thats visible.
331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 03:26:31 PM
Having PoW mine almost no coins benefits no one. Even as a small investor with just 0.25 BTC I feel it's deeply unfair, can't imagine how non investors feel about it. Under current arrangements it's practically just a 1 million coin limit coin with over 95% of coins given as an IPO which only really benefits big investors with 1 BTC + invested in IPO of which there's only 24 people.

It wasn't even clear in the OP that PoW was only going to be mining so few coins.

If we want this coin to obtain a good value long term we need day traders trading it on exchanges which creates volume. Right now we just have a handful of investors who are probably all 'waiting for the moon' which means we won't get much volume at lower prices and the market won't even get off the ground. If the market doesn't get going on this coin then sentiment won't go bullish. There is more to a market than just tech, it needs liquidity.

Even miners that dump the coin early are dong a good service, providing liquidity to allow a coin to trade at a high volume early on. TrollBoxChamp owns 5% of all coins, CollegeStudent 5%, 'anonymous' guy 5%, oilgoose 4%. that's around 20% of coins owned by four people.

I don't know really know what to say. It's up to bitsta because this isn't a democracy and it's his coin we can just give our opinions. But this does make me worry as I think the alt coin community and investment mindset is very much driven by sentiment towards the coin which may be a lot better with a fair PoW.

i may have the final word but i ll also think about community inputs and pay attention to them.

but don't worry. PoW will give all users (traders, miners, investors) the chance to join ROOT with an expecting profitability and fair
distribution.

332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 01:51:19 PM
dev we were wondering about the 5 minute blocktime and 5 reward. That would make PoW over 100 years but you said PoW is 10 days + 14 days.

24 days or 100 years?

total coincap = PoI+PoW+PoS

so its fine.




just to clarify again:
total coincap = PoI + 10 days PoW + 14 Days hybrid PoW/PoS + PoS for ~100 years


No it isn't fine. Not at all. That arrangement would not even be good for the investors, let alone the miners!?

If only 34k coins can be mined, whats the point for people to mine??

With this arrangement, at the end of POW there will be 1 million coins in the hands of investors, and only something like 50k coins in the hands of miners..

That is not a fair distribution, at all.

I vote for the block reward to be increased to at least 40 coins per block, or no deal..

You may be a big miner .so why u not ipo .did u see viacoin?

may be u just want mine  this coin dump dump.

I only found this coin yesterday, so I missed out on the IPO.

Even still, I would not buy in to an IPO with such an unfair coin distribution. There is no future for a coin that is only distributed among 50 people. This is my honest opinion.

If you want this coin to survive long, even medium term then you need to ensure that it gets distributed at least reasonably fairly. At least an even share between miners (33%) and investors (33%) and leave the rest for the POS (34%).

That is a much more fair distribution and will result in a healthy coin.

+1.

i ll look if the community agrees to your idea and make the 33.3% splitting between PoI, PoW and PoS...
but my plan was to provide an fair distribution. if needed with an adaption of the blockreward and/or
duration of PoW stage. But i am NOT going to let miners dump this coin. It will be ULTRAHARD to mine.
and it will be worth every hash.


EDIT: i just read your other posts and think you haven't fully understood the distribution model. There is NO 97% IPO.
There was a 33.3% preinvestment stage.
333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 08:55:47 AM
Chinese QQ Group: 310988665

The QQ group you give is actually on PSEUD and AERO,
Here is a QQ group decidated to ROOT:  385168018
thank you. i ll add it to the OP.
334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 07:49:02 AM
Chinese QQ Group: 310988665
Dev ,are you chinese , dev?

no i am not chinese. thats the QQ Group of a supporter.
335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 07:38:57 AM
create a poll for the algo, go with the votes, i prefer SHA.

i ll set one up over the day.
336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 07:36:30 AM
dev we were wondering about the 5 minute blocktime and 5 reward. That would make PoW over 100 years but you said PoW is 10 days + 14 days.

24 days or 100 years?

total coincap = PoI+PoW+PoS

so its fine.




just to clarify again:
total coincap = PoI + 10 days PoW + 14 Days hybrid PoW/PoS + PoS for ~100 years
337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 01:05:01 AM
90% of this funds will be transfered into an public wallet and only used for project-related investments.
10% will be used for the dev-team.


how about some bounties for translation or article or twitter promotion?

i ll add a bounty-section to the OP.
338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 31, 2014, 12:40:12 AM
@ dev plz update the list.

updated.
339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 30, 2014, 11:58:31 PM
Another vote for Scrypt from me!

What date will POW start?

15th august.
340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS + Proof of Investment on: July 30, 2014, 09:06:04 PM
@dev: will there be second PoI for late investors like posted in previous posts?

No sorry, the PoI is sold out.
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