Don't get me wrong, i approve it too. I've been selling and buying yin/yang since the start to help the volume on Pol like probably many others, my latest trade was about 20K of the coins (mostly Yin) which i bought for 300 sat. Just knowing that now people (INCLUDING leechers who'll dump and earn a few $ for nothing) get 4k of the coins while I and others have paid $5 or more for that a few days ago. If the coin would sell for that price, there will sure be a lot of dumpers that'll cause a drop in price. So most likely the coins will be worth a fraction of that after the distribution as it is set up right now. I hope you understand my point of view, early investors will benefit way less than new investors since the value will go down a lot. And since all my btc is already invested in Yin/yang, i'm unable to buy any of them cheap, right after distribution. So I (and others who invested before the distribution) can only watch how their stocks will shrink in value and wait a (long?) period for them to get to the same value as it was before distribution. Quite a downside for us.

That's why it'd be great if current holders of the coin would get rewarded for their effort in some way. Right now they're disadvantaged, even when you speak of an increase in value on the long run.

the marketcap is currently about 7 bil. even if the price doubles, big holders will earn massive money and most likely dump before it would actually hit 10.000 usd. don't expect it to happen soon, we all know the effects of these dumpers

i know some people that stopped with the help of a book. have no idea what book exactly (and it was dutch) but maybe try to look for one in your own language that has some good reviews from quitters ?

also try to look for all the health problems they cause, there's so many reasons that can help you reconsider smoking on the internet

really depends on where you live and how much you pay for electricity. I'd recommend altcoins, preferably a new one with an active dev.

quick question about the distribution then if that's okay : shouldn't the people who already own Yin/Yang receive a bonus ? It's not very interesting for investors who are in since the beginning, and currently still holding yinyangs (like me), to see that the currency they have been buying  with their own money is now being spread for free. I kind of have a feeling we are being left out ?

because first of all, people who are not familiar with bitcoins, have only heard of them in a negative way most likely.
secondly, are there that many (well-known) merchandisers that offer a cheaper price when paying with btc ? (including exchange fees etc)

en ben je je btc kwijt als je gsm kapot is/gestolen wordt ?

mag ik vragen, hoe jullie zo'n website financieren ? want ik zie nl. geen reclame is wel top natuurlijk !

ik zou er niet aan beginnen er zijn een hele boel meer ervaren mensen op dit gebied en zelfs zij falen vaak...

seems fine now? how long was it down & what was the problem exactly ?

dogecoin heeft een sterke community, dat doet al veel. alleen verkies ik om te investeren in 'beginnende' coins die potentieel hebben om nog goed te stijgen, met een coin als deze weet je natuurlijk niet of hij nog sterk in waarde zal stijgen (en hiermee bedoel ik met paar honderden procenten stijgen) omdat hij al zo hoog staat

is it possible to manipulate a new wallet address (read: generate one by yourself and not a random one) by experts ? or is it 100% safe

Can we give a poloniex address for the distribution ?

can we mine directly to an exchange wallet ?

I haven't got any experience with actual mining so sorry for the noob question, but if both coins are 100% premined what are people exactly mining atm ? How is this possible ?

Are they mining undistributed, premined coins then ? I have no clue how this works so if anyone could clear this up for me

Stick to your plan to get the coin on that other exchange. People will see potential in this coin now that it's still fresh, expand now so people will see this coin is alive. Yinyang's old concept died before, so let this phoenix rise from its ashes. Bring it to the public now so everybody can follow its improvements. You've got a brand new concept unlike all other new coins, i truly believe in its potential and i rarely get that impression. So let's get some action into it!

Get yourself a real, trustworthy certificate that can prove you're registered for legit distribution.

Right now you're asking 1 BTC for 2.000 GTC for investment. Your exchange gives you about 5 grams of gold for that, worth about 0.5 BTC. So obviously no one is ever going to exchange the coins for gold, until the point your coin starts dying and hits the gold value. That's the point you guys will disappear together with the gold exchange, right? Hard to believe you will be sending gold when the coin starts dying. Unless you can prove, by an official contract, that you will keep the exchange without a price change for an X amount of time, but that will never happen.

Clever though, you got inspired by the current bank system i suppose ? Giving people money you don't actually have in the valve, and in crisis time when the people want actual, paper money instead of numbers on their bank account, you go bankrupt and leave the people with nothing. Too transparant scam if you ask me.

Could you please explain what happened with the pre-mine ? You said we can track it here http://finder.fairquark.com/address/qLSALnUEFuBR5tjFudfHJx9SR3qAcfR2oY but it only says there are 7 transactions out ? I don't get that link...

And what's up with the http://mine.fairquark.com:8372 pool ? I mined there and didn't get any coins, while I did get coins on all other pools. People say it's a scam pool, i'm starting to believe it is, and this coin too ?

Give us more transparency please...

nice ! thanks for this

To make it fair (the hourly game):

1) generate a digit ranging from 0 to 9.
2) make the system do this 4 times (so it generates 4 digits seperately in 4 steps, instead of generating a 4-digit number in 1 step).
3) the 4 digits together now for a number 0000-9999 (number 10.000 would be gone but number 0000 could be used as jackpot).

Use 1 Server Seed Hash (SHA-256) and 1 server seed per game (so not per digit, but per 4 digits) but do make 4 different client seeds (1 for each digit) per game. So all the 4 digits can be generated using the same "key", just using a different client seed for each digit.

Also, the client seeds should be generated in a way that the client seed of one digit will not influence the generation of a client seed of a next digit for that same game, ofcourse. 

And if possible, give more transparency on how the calculations are exactly done. Hashes converted to numbers, how it's done. By not knowing the server seed before the game, there's no way that would cause any harm i suppose ?


What i typed here is ofcourse still not 100% proof of fair play but i still have my doubts, like many others, on how the number is currently generated and there are possible ways to manipulate it in order to never (or barely) hit the jackpot. This 'method of generating' i wrote is still absolutely NOT legit or finished to be used, but might be a start to a provably fair game that makes people more certain they play something... fair. Hitting the jackpot right now just doesn't look like a 1/10.000 chance. Who can tell anyway? I'm not a scripter but i hope, in case you truly want your game to be provably fair to everybody, you will use a system like this and have a game where every number created, has an equal 1/10.000 chance of being created. And if that means the jackpot should contain less money for you to make some profits, that's fine by me. We all understand you can't give away more BTC than what the advertisement etc pays you, and respect a fair cut that goes to you in proportion to the work you put into this. Yet don't forget about the people making this happen for you :-) some more transparency would be very appreciated so we can all enjoy this game even more without questions being raised!


-Rnbin