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Well that is all you have, too, since you have provided no proof of the funds. And it is super easy to provide proof if you do have them so withholding the addresses looks a lot worse than me not being able to prove you don't have said addresses (because that would be near impossible for me to do). Well I have my Qtum tokens, that's one thing I have and you don't  Oh cool want to bring up other irrelevant things to our current discussion? It is a great way to deflect, I'll admit. On a side note, putting all that money in one address/wallet is insane, and exposing it to the public is even worse! So I would recommend dealing with the funds in a proper way, not just put them in one address just to please a couple of trolls who did not even invest in the first place. You pretend it's a scam, prove it. Investors trust the project! This statement just confirm that this project is a scam, ICONOMI, Decent even Antshare put their ICO address in the public domain. I said they are going to buy into their own ICO and that is what happened. Any proof, or you just had a dream about it? Stop trying to turn this on us, it is the devs who need to show proof they are the ones supposedly entrusted with 15 million dollars of ICO investor money yet won't be transparent. It's simple. If the team can't reveal the storage addresses for the ICO funds, they can't be trusted. It's such a simple and standard thing for them to do there is no reason not to show them other than to hide something. Earlz himself said in a previous post they will be storing the funds in a 3-way multi-sig addresses under control of himself, Dai, and one other. You could at least give them a chance to respond to the question themselves, unless you just want to admit you are just an extension of them. |
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And so you think qtum is going to be groundbreaking on the basis that they are completely opaque about their ICO funds? When you can safely and securely store the funds at one or across a few publicly known addresses. As an supposed ICO investor wouldn't you like to see what they are doing with those, let alone see that they at least exist?
I don't think holding the whole ICO amount in coins is wise in the first place, look at ethereum, they lost 50% of their ICO value by holding bitcoin. I think some kind of hedging should be done here! Sure I could agree with you on that, but that's irrelevant to my point- my point is they need to be transparent with the funds, whatever it is they decide to do with them. Unless they have something to hide. |
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And so you think qtum is going to be groundbreaking on the basis that they are completely opaque about their ICO funds? When you can safely and securely store the funds at one or across a few publicly known addresses. As an supposed ICO investor wouldn't you like to see what they are doing with those, let alone see that they at least exist?
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Also Earls already said the funds would be held in a multi-sig address you dumbass.
I like it when you start the name calling, it means you have nothing else This project should set new standards in crypto, putting all the coins in one wallet and making it public is certainly not the best way to deal with it security wise. That's my opinion! You don't understand crypto do you. "In one wallet" you don't store coins in a wallet. You store them using a private-public key pair. That can be accessed at any wallet. Now you're funny! You think I'm wrong? Lol. And you are "interested in qtum because of it's tech" but you don't know that coins aren't stored locally in a wallet but "on" the blockchain and accessed through a (any) wallet using a private key? |
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Also Earls already said the funds would be held in a multi-sig address you dumbass.
I like it when you start the name calling, it means you have nothing else This project should set new standards in crypto, putting all the coins in one wallet and making it public is certainly not the best way to deal with it security wise. That's my opinion! You don't understand crypto do you. "In one wallet" you don't store coins in a wallet. You store them using a private-public key pair. That can be used with any wallet. |
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Also Earls already said the funds would be held in a multi-sig address you dumbass.
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Well that is all you have, too, since you have provided no proof of the funds. And it is super easy to provide proof if you do have them so withholding the addresses looks a lot worse than me not being able to prove you don't have said addresses (because that would be near impossible for me to do). Well I have my Qtum tokens, that's one thing I have and you don't Oh cool want to bring up other irrelevant things to our current discussion? It is a great way to deflect, I'll admit. On a side note, putting all that money in one address/wallet is insane, and exposing it to the public is even worse! So I would recommend dealing with the funds in a proper way, not just put them in one address just to please a couple of trolls who did not even invest in the first place. You pretend it's a scam, prove it. Investors trust the project! Holy shit, are you kidding me? Already making excuses for them? So they are never going to release the addresses are they. Well, this is worse than I thought lol. And yes, I am sure all 9 ICO investors have tons of trust in the project. I'm saying 9 because there's as much proof for 9 as for any other number. Reality is whatever you make it to be in stackoverflow's world, no need for objectivity. |
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Wait so there are actually 949,291,062.75 coins total in existence but only 82,256,324 are publicly owned???
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Where's my dividends? That's MY MONEY! I want my 1.38x10-4 dollars/ICN dammit! Okay so this was a joke but this is the dividend for that 1000 ETH profit unless I got something mixed up. The 1000 ETH they made off of that one Golem trade with the ICNP fund is around $40,000 profit (~$40 USD/ETH at this time), ICN holders get 30% of ICNP profit, 87,000,000 ICN currently in circulation => 1.38x10-4 dollars/ICN. So that would be a dividend that is currently worth 1/2898th the price of token (~$0.4). Pretty small, but that's just for 1000 ETH profit off of one ICNP trade. That's not taking into account other profit they have already made from other ICNP investments and the Byteball distributions, but most importantly that's not taking into account what can be made in the future. They still have all these funds (currently ~19 million USD) from the ICO for ICNP investments: BTC: 3KbWWjumBGLBUWYCeidydxe1uET9QyWoEg ETH:0x154Af3E01eC56Bc55fD585622E33E3dfb8a248d8 LSK: 6300322192409448238L They've barely even started. And that's without even considering the potential profits from fees from ICNX and the OFM there are 100,000,000 ICN. The 13,000,000 are held by the founders, but I'm pretty sure they still get dividends.... Ahh thanks for the correction. But that doesn't change much at all in terms of the big picture. |
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Well that is all you have, too, since you have provided no proof of the funds. And it is super easy to provide proof if you do have them so withholding the addresses looks a lot worse than me not being able to prove you don't have said addresses (because that would be near impossible for me to do). Well I have my Qtum tokens, that's one thing I have and you don't Oh cool want to bring up other irrelevant things to our current discussion? It is a great way to deflect, I'll admit. |
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Simple question that should be super simple to answer: when will the qtum team release the ICO fund storage addresses to the public?
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It seems some trolls concluded this is a scam without any actual proof. Wake up! This is not a scam, it's a legit project just out of curiosity, are you getting paid for this, or are you part of the gang? It's so obvious isn't it lol. If they are getting paid I wonder how their handler thinks they are doing. A big part of counting cards in black jack is knowing how to hide the fact you are counting cards. In fact, if you can't do that it doesn't matter how good at counting you are because you will just get kicked out of the casino. Same is true for shills. The good shills can hide their motive, while the bad ones are easily spotted and it doesn't matter what they say people know to throw it out. I invested in this project, that's why I'm present in this thread, I wonder what you are doing here ruminating the same BS as you were before the ICO, which obviously failed to influence the smart money from investing. Unless you secretly invested in this while trolling it Don't worry there isn't any smart money in qtun How funny is that Look at all the angel investors to start with! Then look at the ICO that sold out in 5 days. I would love to look at the ICO that sold out in 5 days but they haven't provided the BTC and ETH addresses to do that now have they smartass? What are you still doing here, if you are certain it's a scam? The ICO is over, you missed your chance I'm a free man. I can do what I want. Unlike you, who appears to be contained to this thread by your handler. The ICO is over, but I didn't miss any chances. I did my best to warn people despite the efforts of shills like you. And until I and everyone else sees evidence of those funds we have every reason to believe we were completely successful in preventing this scam ICO from being a success  So how about you prove us wrong and show us the 15 million? Unfortunately, you failed to convince people, because all you have is hearsay and total BS! Well that is all you have, too, since you have provided no proof of the funds. And it is super easy to provide proof if you do have them so withholding the addresses looks a lot worse than me not being able to prove you don't have said addresses (because that would be near impossible for me to do). |
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It seems some trolls concluded this is a scam without any actual proof. Wake up! This is not a scam, it's a legit project just out of curiosity, are you getting paid for this, or are you part of the gang? It's so obvious isn't it lol. If they are getting paid I wonder how their handler thinks they are doing. A big part of counting cards in black jack is knowing how to hide the fact you are counting cards. In fact, if you can't do that it doesn't matter how good at counting you are because you will just get kicked out of the casino. Same is true for shills. The good shills can hide their motive, while the bad ones are easily spotted and it doesn't matter what they say people know to throw it out. I invested in this project, that's why I'm present in this thread, I wonder what you are doing here ruminating the same BS as you were before the ICO, which obviously failed to influence the smart money from investing. Unless you secretly invested in this while trolling it Don't worry there isn't any smart money in qtun How funny is that Look at all the angel investors to start with! Then look at the ICO that sold out in 5 days. I would love to look at the ICO that sold out in 5 days but they haven't provided the BTC and ETH addresses to do that now have they smartass? What are you still doing here, if you are certain it's a scam? The ICO is over, you missed your chance I'm a free man. I can do what I want. Unlike you, who appears to be contained to this thread by your handler. And I'm not certain it is a scam, just extremely highly super suspect that it is. It's not smart to be 100% on anything. Honestly if they can show the 15 million in storage wallets my level of suspect would drop a level or two. Either way I think the ICO structure was a scam in itself in a lot of ways and wouldn't have invested in the ICO. The ICO is over, but I didn't miss any chances. I did my best to warn people despite the efforts of shills like you. And until I and everyone else sees evidence of those funds we have every reason to believe we were completely successful in preventing this scam ICO from being a success So how about you prove us wrong and show us the 15 million? |
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It seems some trolls concluded this is a scam without any actual proof. Wake up! This is not a scam, it's a legit project just out of curiosity, are you getting paid for this, or are you part of the gang? It's so obvious isn't it lol. If they are getting paid I wonder how their handler thinks they are doing. A big part of counting cards in black jack is knowing how to hide the fact you are counting cards. In fact, if you can't do that it doesn't matter how good at counting you are because you will just get kicked out of the casino. Same is true for shills. The good shills can hide their motive, while the bad ones are easily spotted and it doesn't matter what they say people know to throw it out. I invested in this project, that's why I'm present in this thread, I wonder what you are doing here ruminating the same BS as you were before the ICO, which obviously failed to influence the smart money from investing. Unless you secretly invested in this while trolling it Don't worry there isn't any smart money in qtun How funny is that Look at all the angel investors to start with! Then look at the ICO that sold out in 5 days. I would love to look at the ICO that sold out in 5 days but they haven't provided the BTC and ETH addresses to do that now have they smartass? |
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It seems some trolls concluded this is a scam without any actual proof. Wake up! This is not a scam, it's a legit project just out of curiosity, are you getting paid for this, or are you part of the gang? It's so obvious isn't it lol. If they are getting paid I wonder how their handler thinks they are doing. A big part of counting cards in black jack is knowing how to hide the fact you are counting cards. In fact, if you can't do that it doesn't matter how good at counting you are because you will just get kicked out of the casino. Same is true for shills. The good shills can hide their motive, while the bad ones are easily spotted and it doesn't matter what they say people know to throw it out. I invested in this project, that's why I'm present in this thread, I wonder what you are doing here ruminating the same BS as you were before the ICO, which obviously failed to influence the smart money from investing. Unless you secretly invested in this while trolling it You were here well before you had the chance to invest and anybody can see that by looking at your post history, but nice try. I'm not even repeating the same things, read my posts. Or was I asking to see the BTC and ETH addresses for the raised ICO funds before they even held the ICO? You idiot. All this talk about smart money, all I am asking for now is to see it. It's beyond easy to show the addresses where the ICO funds are stored, every single project with even a hint of transparency lists those addresses ASAP after an ICO. |
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Where's my dividends? That's MY MONEY! I want my 1.38x10-4 dollars/ICN dammit! Okay so this was a joke but this is the dividend for that 1000 ETH profit unless I got something mixed up. The 1000 ETH they made off of that one Golem trade with the ICNP fund is around $40,000 profit (~$40 USD/ETH at this time), ICN holders get 30% of ICNP profit, 87,000,000 100,000,000 ICN currently in circulation => 1.381.2x10-4 dollars/ICN. So that would be a dividend that is currently worth 1/ 2898th3333rd the price of token (~$0.4). Pretty small, but that's just for 1000 ETH profit off of one ICNP trade. That's not taking into account other profit they have already made from other ICNP investments and the Byteball distributions, but most importantly that's not taking into account what can be made in the future. They still have all these funds (currently ~19 million USD) from the ICO for ICNP investments: BTC: 3KbWWjumBGLBUWYCeidydxe1uET9QyWoEg ETH:0x154Af3E01eC56Bc55fD585622E33E3dfb8a248d8 LSK: 6300322192409448238L They've barely even started. And that's without even considering the potential profits from fees from ICNX and the OFM |
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I don't care about the release date, all I know is Iconomi will be making a history in the crypto space when the platform officially launches.  Well it does need to happen before a competitor creates the equivalent if they want to benefit from being the founders and an established network effect. Exactly. Either way once people realize platform won't be launching this month, a HUGE DUMP will happen Idk about that, why did anybody think it was launching this month? I don't think that many people did but I guess we'll see. If the news tomorrow is bad then it will definitely dump but if it is good... To my understanding people reached this conclusion when the platform was delayed Q4 2016. I do believe the team mentioned release would be Q1 2017 but I can't find anything to back it up. They never said they wouldn't release Q1 either so who knows.  If the platform would delayed to Q4 that would be a total crash for the ICONOMI asssets. I think they need to release at this month. They need to release it when it is ready, secure, and bug free. |
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shitcoin , I am out of this
Dev's are bunch of scammers
You never posted in an ICN thread before this or about ICN, you sure you were ever in it? And if you have proof of a scam I'm sure we'd all love to hear it. |
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Wow thanks for the arrows I never would have seen the gigantic green and red bars otherwise... |
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