getting grid connected with solar is a far better choice than a battery bank however keep in mind that if a blackout occurs your whole output is completely compromised. if a pole is hit by a storm or a rockfall or anything to break your wires than everything goes down including the asic farm. so if there is a blackout not only that the asic stop running because they take power from the grid but also you cant pump power into the grid back. its a fail fail recipe in case of a broken pole or simply some electricity guys doing maintenance on the grid.
also i would like to add that solar pannels are decaying in efficiency starting year 15 thats if they arent destroyed by hailstorm ice rain or by kids throwing rocks over the fence or simply burglars at work.
as for hydro the idea which looks better and better is to get more of these guys running along the river. build one in year 1 build second next year and so on till you  get a little farm of these guys depending on your needs.

the concept presented in the vids can easily be applied to any plot of land with a river flowing near it . thing is that 600kwh might be too much for such a small home hydro system.
the generator in this movie produces 15 kwh but if you look closely the fall of the water is very small. maybe a much more rapid current and a longer canal can boost the performance . however for 600 kwh i would need a very rapid whirlpool which is not only very dangerous but also might be too powerfull for this small setup . for now these are all plans . ive completely droped solar . it is only good for a 2 asic hobby operation which will never roi . but if you plan to start small and expand big solar quickly reaches its limits. dont get me wrong im not saying its imposible to have a 1 megawatt solar setup and the batteries for it for a big operation but the price of that is ... outrageous . solar is good for a 2 asic hobby operation at most would do it to keep the ideal of decentralized money  .
 if you want to make some money  and own a real business ... cant go anything but hydro.

edit : here is another plant more to my liking : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo_mP18IXMo

here are the new developments. ive done some math and solar is simply too expensive . the right way is to go hydro with a 600 kw / h turbine. this will be a very hard thing to pull but seems the only reasonable

way to get free  electricity . with solar there is absolutely no chance it will ever roi . im thinking about doing something like this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FA2H1HiL3o

another vid same concept.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxGGCmnJl1w

 waiting for your opinions. calculus says 60 k usd for 600 kw... but i might be too optimistic. 600kw will suport about 2 PH worth of asics . which to buy is about 1.5 - 2 mil usd.

he is a guy with 266 posts advising wisely for escrow while you are a newbie with 3 posts .

thank you for the link. a step in the right direction.

prietene , daca vrei sa te prezinti ai o pagina numita : bine ai venit ! .

ce faci tu aici e publicitate . e foarte simplu. iar eu imi expun punctul de vedere asupra firmei tale.

poate gresesc dar vad ca ai inceput cu promovarea siteului urmat cu expunerea marfii . pe final vii cu cererea de angajare . mie mi se pare ca anuntul tau e format din doua parti . parerea mea se adreseaza asupra primei parti din anuntul tau. daca era cum spui tu stergeai tot mai putin ultima fraza si se intelegea ce spui acum ca vrei . eu vad multa publicitate si doar o fraza referitoare la angajare.

de ce nu vrei sa intelegi ca eu iti vorbesc in calitate de potential client. esti suparat ca nu gasesti fraieri pe aici ? cam greu sa vinzi castraveti gradinarului , prietene. daca ma acuzi de ceva te rog dovedeste. eu tot ce am spus am dovedit. te astept cu reducerea aia ( 50% la toate produsele dupa parerea mea) si discutam afaceri.

eu sunt un simplu forumist care observa o discordanta intre visele tale si realitate... piata asicurilor este nemiloasa cu cei care nu tin pasul cu realitatea. au mai fost si altii inaintea ta chiar din romania care au dat faliment ( vezi cazul blackminer.ro chiar aici pe forum ) . Nu ma intelege gresit nu sunt aici sa te supar ci doresc sa te trezesc  la realitate deoarece nu va plati nimeni 4000 roni / TH sau 6000 roni / 1.5 TH azi cand bitcoinul a alunecat la 379.9 usd ( de la 390 usd acum 3 ore ) .

edit :
alt argument :

Bitcoin Difficulty:    29,829,733,124
Estimated Next Difficulty:    35,427,427,617 (+18.77%)
sursa : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

in 6 zile acel 1 th vandut cu 2598 roni azi va pierde 18.77% din putere deci si din pret .

eu iti spun ca nu o sa vinzi nimic daca nu devii realist si schimbi total preturile (conform demonstratiei ) tu te bucuri ca ai competitori. /facepalm .

nu vine din china, rebtech deja are in stoc . tot ei au antminer s3+ la 1299 ron pt 500gh (oc)
2 bucati dau 1th la 2598 roni ( produse in stoc cu tva inclus si garantie 3 luni ) , uite de asta zic ca oferta ta e aberanta...
uita-te la ei pe site la stocuri, nu ma crede pe mine.

ps: antminerul s2 nu e in stoc dar nu e relevant pentru ca se da din stoc s3+ .

ceea ce nu pricepi tu este ca preturile tale sunt aberante. ceri 4000 roni pt un th cand china iti da 1 th cu 400 usd.

vezi hashra vezi bitmain vezi spondoolies( astia sunt chiar mai ieftini si mai de calitate ).

antminerele s3 se dau cu 1300 roni aici pe forum si nu se inghesuie nimeni ca a scazut bitcoinul la 390 usd azi 19.09.2014.

adu ceva competitiv ca pret poate o sa ai si clienti.

ps : nu mai mentionez cloud miningul care e si mai ieftin / th (1.35 btc pe 1 th contract pe 5 ani ).

ps2 : concurenta ta , rebtech (googaleste rebtech.ro ) , da antminer s2 cu 3499 roni . asta e miner de 1 th.

no sir . there will be a array of batteries and several solar pannels . or i could simply go hydro and run everything on one battery.

although im a begginer at wiring and setting up the system. im very concerned about something catching fire , shorting wires , not providing clean power due to interference... id love to talk with you guys about that stuff maybe you could show me some links and your green setups. would be awesome.
thank you.

can you provide some links with reading materials .
im a bit worried about the " clean power " part. what happens if the power isnt clean and what could be the cause of that. how to avoid it .
thank you .

exactly sir im using 2 solar panels  . each provide max output of 240 W /  one miner.
will it work or will it fry?

im not sure i've understood what you just said .

Wild idea : i have a 12 V , 160 AH gel battery. can i hook a antminer s3 directly to it ? will it fry ? will it work ?
the idea is to find a workaround the psu . what else would i need to deliver stable power without a psu. 

V= Volts .

AH = amps / hour .

ce suma ai de vanzare , te rog.

doua posibilitati :

1. un noob a cumparat fara sa stie ce face .

2. un trader a dat misclick si si-a pierdut banii.


oricum ar fi cineva se vaita pe jos la ce prostie a facut.

i did everything but no reply . your suspicions about me are unfounded.
im literaly curious about how many people got the 1 gh  if any .
all clear now sparky ? lol accusing me of being a troll.
edit : hashnest has issued a list of 65 people getting a gh. im not amongst them . the promotion is over . as far as im concerned the subject is closed.