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321  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 16, 2016, 10:34:27 AM
Anyone elses FaucetBox balances showing 0? 1.6M satoshi & 4K doge showing 0, checked the payouts and user statistics and it doesn't add up. Is there an issue with FaucetBox?

Do you see that on your faucet itself or in FaucetBOX.com Dashboard?
322  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 15, 2016, 02:21:48 PM
Is there a way to get random captcha? for example that funcaptcha are rotating and are you human?
I thought this but then worried perhaps it then wouldn't matter which captcha was completed.

Even if it would matter which captcha was completed (you can implement something like that easily), it wouldn't help against bots. It's trivial for a script to check which captcha it has to solve.
323  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 14, 2016, 06:41:32 PM
Just to sum up last few posts about bots/abusers and to show my view on it:

1. adding random things to session won't help much. There's already random name of the address input and bots can handle it, so it won't be a problem for them to also handle something new.
2. calculating the time between visiting the landing page and making a claim won't help, bots will just add some delay (and they can even make it a little bit random, so you won't be able to tell a difference from real person)
3. trying to detect mouse movement etc and sending this info through AJAX won't help, bots can just spoof the request
4. there already is a hidden field AND a hidden checkbox in Faucet in a Box script, but it only helped for a week or so until bots were modified to avoid that field. We could also make names of these hidden fields random, but then bots will be able to just traverse the DOM tree to find the real ones. And if you make a few visible fields and somehow tell the user which one is valid, bots will be able to read it too.
5. any javascript-based "protections" aren't worth anything. That includes most anti-bot links, though I've seen one implementation that also used a backend code and could help (but that isn't significantly different from just another captcha, so again, a short-term solution)

I believe that there's no point anymore in this cat and mouse game. Anything that can be done by a browser and a user sooner or later will be done by bots, it's just a matter of time it takes to code it. And to be honest it's usually asymmetric, where it takes longer to implement the protection than it takes to implement handling of it in a bot.
Also what I believe is that automated bots aren't really a problem. "Captcha rotators", scripts that shows a captcha to user and automatically change proxies are worse, as from my experience are more common.

However there's only one solution, both to automated bots and these nasty rotators: detect networks used by abusers and ban them. Make sure you have protections in place that will prevent your faucets from going dry in case of attack and will allow you to react and stop abusers, at least until they change networks again.

At FaucetBOX.com we're currently focusing on:
1. improving NastyHosts.com using various blocklists and metadata
2. adding features that will help to quickly react to an attack and will prevent losing too much coins.
324  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 14, 2016, 01:16:50 PM
Both send back the following - Can't connect to database. Check your config.php.

Open index.php file and find this line:
Code:
die("Can't connect to database. Check your config.php.");

it's line 102 in r62. Right above this line add (it's something that will be integrated in r63):

Code:
echo $e->getMessage()."<br>";

It should show the real error now. If all details are correct then probably you also have to add permissions to your database to your user or something like that.
325  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 13, 2016, 04:45:22 PM
Hey, for some reason it says that www.FaucetGame.com is "Possibly Broken" for some reason?



It's been up 99.99% of the time, there are funds inside of the wallet.
I don't see what's wrong?

It also can get delisted if it returns any http error. It'll get back up soon.

I can't run my faucet (I get a white page after claim), neither can I login to my admin page (then I also get a white page)
I have a way around when I use the absolute URL, but that's not the URL I want my visitors to use.

My faucet now goes via Cloudflare, is there anything I need to change?
Security in my Cloudflare settings is "flexible"

Nastyhosts blocks cloudflare if you don't configure it properly in your faucet's admin panel. Use your "absolute URL" (it's a problem that's possible, it leaves you vulnerable), login to admin panel and read everything on the "Advanced" tab. If you don't understand what's written it, it's safer for you to not use CloudFlare.
326  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 13, 2016, 10:44:52 AM
check address page is very hard to load even i open it for ten times?? Only can see the top bar but not balance.  Its been a few days please help

What's your address?



my address  1AeDJuoNg1tCeewHDYhXkwcZZG8NcoU6n1

please check tq

It loads just fine for me, so maybe that's some incompatibility with a browser or some extension. Have you tried visiting this in Private/Incognito mode of your browser? What browser and which version do you use?
327  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 13, 2016, 07:42:09 AM
check address page is very hard to load even i open it for ten times?? Only can see the top bar but not balance.  Its been a few days please help

What's your address?
328  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 11, 2016, 10:05:50 PM
By the way would not it be good for all faucet users have their own rotators by the help of faucetbox?Faucetbox could share its script with anyone if it doesnt need referral earnings.İt will be also good for faucetbox for getting much claims?What do you think friends?

We're not in a place where we can afford supporting yet another script/feature, we want to focus more on our core (there's still some work to be done to have full sustainability) and security features.

But ScanTheBox.com took maybe 20 hours to build, I'm sure you (as in whole community) can build something better Smiley. And it's definitely not that great for owners. Due to sandboxing (to prevent faucets from redirecting user from rotator or opening popups) ads mostly don't work, nothing happens when users click them.
329  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 11, 2016, 07:50:01 PM
Hi guys, how can I check the ip address of an address in my cpanel?

select * from `Faucetinabox_Addresses` where ref_id = "number" but i only can see the referrals with that how can I know if teh ips are similar or what?

You can't, the script doesn't store associations between bitcoin addresses and IP addresses for privacy reasons. You will have to modify the script to have that.

since what time the scanbox in service?İsaw it today.very good for faucet dealers.i wonder what happens to referrals.do they go to faucetbox?

About a year now. However it's not very well maintained due to problems with getting real timer value...
330  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 11, 2016, 11:22:14 AM
Hi,

please verify my faucet "http://catch-the-coins.com/"

that my faucet list on faucetbox.com and scanthebox ...

thanks
:-)

Be patient, there's a queue, everyone wants to get verified as soon as possible Wink
331  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 10, 2016, 11:51:18 AM
İn faucetbox script , we cant put banners in the center of the page.opening the page you see the claim button , so nobody needs to see the down parts of the site.you can put at most 5-6 banners that can be seen easily , rest is in vain.can sth be done for that , or advice to me to solve that?

Edit the template file directly. However usually putting more than 3 banners actually decreases your revenue, so I'm not sure you want to do that Wink
332  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 09, 2016, 04:07:24 PM
attacker using difference ip`s. i blocked  ip`s via CIDR tool in faucetbox admin panel.but  faucetbox script can not block! i think script dosent work!

Easy to check. Just provide your own IP address and test if you're blocked. However please note that it'll also lock you out of the admin panel, so have another IP address to revert the change from.
333  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 09, 2016, 04:04:47 PM
faucetbox is the intermediary between the users and the faucets owner
Why these problems ?
simply do not pay all this satoshi to scamer

1. FaucetBOX.com doesn't know IPs of users the coins are sent to, only the script itself knows it
2. FaucetBOX.com doesn't have enough information to tell a difference between abuser and just an owner of a faucets list or a rotator with many referrals. It actually happened multiple times here when addresses were being accused of scamming, and later it turned out there were actually legit.
3. FaucetBOX.com is a payment cache. API call to pay to address was made, it's not FaucetBOX.com job to decide whether it's legit or not.

Is there update FaucetBox script  Smiley

What do you mean by that? When there's an update of Faucet in a Box script, you can see a notice in your faucet's admin panel Smiley


The script isn't automatically updated, right?
Also, when there's an update, is there a bug fix list?
And, is there an update planned? Smiley

1. no, it's not automatically updated
2. there's a list of changes that's shown in the admin panel when you're using outdated version
3. yup, there is, but nothing big, just minor tweaks
334  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 09, 2016, 02:43:13 PM
Guys, it's irrelevant if captchas can by solved automatically or not. Current protections (captcha, timer per IP address) can be bypassed one way or another, it doesn't really matter how. The only thing that changes is whether we can call abusers bots, human-assisted scripts or rotators with built-in proxy switcher. The effect is the same: drained faucets, and there's only one solution: checking IP addresses.
335  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 09, 2016, 02:24:03 PM
AND IT CAN NOT bypass the captchas, wether it is FunCaptcha, Recaptcha, ...[/b] If you are reading this and you are not agreeing; Again and again: SHOW ME PROOF. I have years and years of experience in programming. It can not be done. Show me proof, I'm begging you, please. I will pay you for it.

I keep spotting and reading about new faucet owners with less or no programming knowledge who believe that "bots" are bypassing their captchas etc. Come on people, you really believe this?

Bots can't do it. It's simple. The answer is on this forum. The "bots" are actual people solving the captchas.

no, it's very simple to bypass most captchas using little to moderate programming skill. sorry.

I'll put my money where my mouth is. Show me a script or application that can bypass Recaptcha. Your cred is on the line here. Show me.

You cant. Sorry.

First, let me thank you for your post. Although it's harsh and could be written in more polite way, I agree with most of it and I hope it'll change the way this issue is discussed.

Now about captcha. Yes, automated scripts can't solve captchas on their own. But there are human powered services like https://2captcha.com/, where an automated script can send a captcha and will receive a solution made by a real human. Last time I checked it was about 170 satoshi per one solve.

EDIT: here's a sample bot that uses these services: http://www.autoclickbots.com/product/coincollector-v3/ .
336  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 09, 2016, 12:36:53 PM
Since yesterday my bitcoin faucet (see my profile for link) is been compromised again.
Even after putting the geo-blocking back in and manually add IP's to deny in .htaccess they start stealing again as soon as I release the faucet to public.

The first time they stole I forgot to enable Nastyhosts, I didn't forget this the second time (created new faucet ith new API-key).
My faucet lasted 4 days without suspicious activity this time.
What do those bots need to be able to steal so many coins? Do they get hold of the API-key or something (how come they can still steal after a 403 applies to them?) I can only think of them stealing the API-key, because they don't need access to my website then.
Are there any more security measures I can take than I alrady took (config.php secured and geo-blocking in .htaccess, Tor/VPN/proxy via nastyhosts)?

It looks like Nastyhosts is not working properly and I am getting a bit sick of people who can't play the game honestly.

Geoblocking doesn't help, there's no specific correlation between countries and bots.
Nastyhosts isn't perfect, but it's free.
All bots need is just an access to your site, just like a regular user.

I now limited the toatal payout to 276 satoshi per 30 minutes, but still they manage to get around, I see still more than that disappear in less than 2 minutes, how is that possible? Even changes on Faucetbox itself don't seem to havy any influence on these bots. They get around the timer by changing IP's but how do they get around the (Fun)captcha?.

And still I think Faucetbox should focus more on security of faucets (it's too easy to compromise). Otherwise I can just as well throw my money down the sewer,

To get around captchas they use services like this: http://www.deathbycaptcha.com/user/login. In short, there's a real human sitting on the other end doing nothing but solving captchas for money.

To be honest it's not really FaucetBOX.com responsibility to protect faucets from bots. FaucetBOX.com is a payment cache, not a bot protection service. However we do what we can (Nastyhosts, honeypots, settings that limit the impact of bots etc.) and it's almost the only thing we're focusing on right now.

Now to what you can do more is:
1. use CloudFlare with high security settings. I heard that helps a lot. And for CloudFlare bot protection is actually one of core functions.
2. use safety limits in FaucetBOX.com Dashboard. While they won't stop the bots, they'll at least stop them from stealing all your coins in 2 minutes...
3. use a proper fraud detection service like https://www.maxmind.com/en/minfraud-services . Now that's possibly impossible given how expensive they are, but that shows how hard this issue actually is. You can also contact the guy behind http://getipintel.net/ for the cost of using it for a faucet (the free 15 reqs per minute / 500 reqs per day won't be enough usually)

337  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 09, 2016, 07:43:05 AM
I'm late but i tried to update tonight and i get the same error in browser (error 500) and in my logs i get:

[Fri Jan 08 21:03:23.471528 2016] [lsapi:error] [pid 33086:tid 140190131648256] [client 37.59.232.247:40563] mod_lsapi: [host captchas.rocks] Could not stat script filename (/home/captc174/public_html/xmlrpc.php): errno 2

That's not an error from the script, looks like someone just tried to visit /xmlrpc.php on your faucet. There are exploits for this file, so I guess just a random crawler. Not related to 500 error and nothing to worry about.

PHP ver is: 5.4.45

+ more logs:
 PHP Notice:  Undefined index: address_input_name in /home/captc174/public_html/templates/default/index.php on line 155
 PHP Notice:  Undefined index: captcha_info in /home/captc174/public_html/templates/default/index.php on line 162
 PHP Notice:  Undefined index: disable_admin_panel in /home/captc174/public_html/templates/default/index.php on line 199
 PHP Notice:  Undefined index: button_timer in /home/captc174/public_html/templates/default/index.php on line 207
 PHP Notice:  Undefined index: block_adblock in /home/captc174/public_html/templates/default/index.php on line 21

You're using new template files (~r60 I guess) with and old index.php file (~r50?). You didn't update properly.
Also these Notices wouldn't cause 500 error. There must be some other error.

@Kazuldur

Good day!

I have added my faucet on "Promo", it's been like 15-17 hours since then.

When do you guys add faucets on your rotator?

(www.FaucetGame.com)

5 minutes claims, 50% ref bonus

A few days.
338  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 08, 2016, 07:42:14 PM
I can check my stats all i like in faucetbox, problem is some of my wallet addresses in faucetbox are ov
erdue in paying out.
why can't we manually withdraw if we got over our payout treshold? clearly the automated withdrawal stinks, as it doesn't work most of the time.

Caching the payments and withdrawing them in batches, and not on demand, is what makes faucets possible at all. Otherwise fees for the Bitcoin network are too high. The threshold would need to be about 0.01 BTC instead of just 13k satoshi in such case.
What's your address? I'll check what's wrong.
339  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 07, 2016, 04:29:48 PM
Hi, i want to make a faucet site with huge payout (around 15000satoshi - 20000satoshi per claim), but i'm afraid that many users use bot and they can bypass the captcha easily Angry
i try using faucetbox script and i have an idea to prevent bots by using content locker to lock the "get reward" button (when user click the "get reward" button, a pop up box appears with offer and users must complete one offer to get the satoshi).
Here is the content locker code : http://prntscr.com/9mrk0r
i have tried insert the code and then i try to click the get reward button, the offer appears but then it proceed to succesfully claimed (i didn't complete the offer).
anyone know what code should i change to get it work?  Undecided
Please help me  Embarrassed
you can check my site : bitcoinforusa.xyz

Sorry for my very bad english   Roll Eyes

That's client-side protection. It won't do anything against bots.
340  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FaucetBOX.com Discussion on: January 07, 2016, 03:52:37 PM
Kazuldur Today these errors are leaving me much
Code:
PHP Warning:  array_key_exists() expects parameter 2 to be array, null given in /index.php on line 2120
in that vein I have
Code:
if(array_key_exists('balance', $ret)) {

If your faucet works I wouldn't worry about it. Looks like just intermittent connection problem.
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