FaucetBOX.com Discussion

[mavenraven]

Guys, it's irrelevant if captchas can by solved automatically or not. Current protections (captcha, timer per IP address) can be bypassed one way or another, it doesn't really matter how. The only thing that changes is whether we can call abusers bots, human-assisted scripts or rotators with built-in proxy switcher. The effect is the same: drained faucets, and there's only one solution: checking IP addresses.

to this I agree completely.

sorry for flames.

[btc4]

i lose 0.2btc less than 15 hours[ 1.5 btc till now] from bot attacks! altough our balance is full for always.

[BitBustah]

drained faucets, and there's only one solution: checking IP addresses.

[BitBustah]

to this I agree completely.

sorry for flames.

Same here. Sorry for flaming.
Just wanted to help others.

[BitBustah]

i lose 0.2btc less than 15 hours[ 1.5 btc till now] from bot attacks! altough our balance is full for always.

Can you go into your database and show some of the IPs that were being used to claim?

If you could provice a few IPs we might be able to help preventing the scammers (or bots) as you call them from coming back.

[btc4]

i lose 0.2btc less than 15 hours[ 1.5 btc till now] from bot attacks! altough our balance is full for always.

Can you go into your database and show some of the IPs that were being used to claim?

If you could provice a few IPs we might be able to help preventing the scammers (or bots) as you call them from coming back.

attacker using difference ip`s. i blocked  ip`s via CIDR tool in faucetbox admin panel.but  faucetbox script can not block! i think script dosent work!
i added this code 3 hours ago!
216.189.157.1/32
216.189.157.2/31
216.189.157.4/30
216.189.157.8/29
216.189.157.16/28
216.189.157.32/27
216.189.157.64/26
216.189.157.128/25
216.189.158.0/24
216.189.159.0/25
216.189.159.128/26
216.189.159.192/29
216.189.159.200/32
again this ip claim from my faucet:
.at the screen shot we can see this ip:216.189.157.89
https://i.imgur.com/DbXDGl2.png
also i saw user agents in my cpanel from this address: http://www.qtweb.net/

[mavenraven]

can we maybe make a centralized service similar to nastyhosts where faucet owners submit bad IPs and other faucet owners can query for it?

it will have problems like false positives, but if we weight it out with more respectable/trusted inputs, I think it can work rather well

edit: let's pull our resources together!

[BitBustah]

can we maybe make a centralized service similar to nastyhosts where faucet owners submit bad IPs and other faucet owners can query for it?

it will have problems like false positives, but if we weight it out with more respectable/trusted inputs, I think it can work rather well

But it will only check against "flagged" IPs.

I have been thinking about the opposite. Something like a members only faucet. IP and wallet will be checked at sign up and at every claim ever after. It would allow the faucet to "bind" a wallet to the ISP of the user.



I found another service like NastyHosts and it is really amazing. I combine it with NastyHosts. I've noticed that NH sometimes passed an obvious VPN while the other service didn't.

[BitBustah]

https://i.imgur.com/DbXDGl2.png

This seems like a screenshot from a traffic report.

You need to give us IPs from the MySQL database. It's in the "Faucetinabox_IPs" table.

[btc4]

https://i.imgur.com/DbXDGl2.png

This seems like a screenshot from a traffic report.

You need to give us IPs from the MySQL database. It's in the "Faucetinabox_IPs" table.

i have more than 100 online real visitot at the moment. i can not share this ip`s.
you can see some ip from this attacker below:
bitcoin addresses:
1JrUwZVAB2xjw7uppDAAg4onCfA5MPcLRW
16yUMgZAUakYQoZsbQRxaFr33WeFUREoKf
1JxRYqpqX9ofG943ryuL6dYxacD47T2LA
15mL8T9PAvea5y3NXiDaQEYkaabeLFhKzw
15EDPGcENqAp7H3FnFwJtBbisEeyjvdzAC
1HfnCkDramdbLdAv7ai9rDMvxKXXka3PcH

IP:
216.189.157.1/32
216.189.157.2/31
216.189.157.4/30
216.189.157.8/29
216.189.157.16/28
216.189.157.32/27
216.189.157.64/26
216.189.157.128/25
216.189.158.0/24
216.189.159.0/25
216.189.159.128/26
216.189.159.192/29
216.189.159.200/32
192.126.170.1/32
192.126.170.2/31
192.126.170.4/30
192.126.170.8/29
192.126.170.16/28
192.126.170.32/27
192.126.170.64/26
192.126.170.128/26
45.33.145.1/32
45.33.145.2/31
45.33.145.4/30
45.33.145.8/29
45.33.145.16/28
45.33.145.32/27
45.33.145.64/26
45.33.145.128/26
45.33.145.192/27
45.33.145.224/28
45.33.145.240/29
45.33.145.248/31
45.33.145.250/32
192.126.100.1/32
192.126.100.2/31
192.126.100.4/30
192.126.100.8/29
192.126.100.16/28
192.126.100.32/27
192.126.100.64/26
192.126.100.128/25
192.126.101.0/24
192.126.102.0/23
192.126.104.0/21
192.126.112.0/20
192.126.128.0/19
192.126.160.0/20
192.126.176.0/22
192.126.180.0/25
192.126.180.128/26
192.126.180.192/29
192.126.146.1/32
192.126.146.2/31
192.126.146.4/30
192.126.146.8/29
192.126.146.16/28
192.126.146.32/27
192.126.146.64/26
192.126.146.128/26
192.126.146.192/29
104.128.233.1/32
104.128.233.2/31
104.128.233.4/30
104.128.233.8/29
104.128.233.16/28
104.128.233.32/27
104.128.233.64/26
104.128.233.128/26
104.128.233.192/29
168.235.67.1/32
168.235.67.2/31
168.235.67.4/30
168.235.67.8/29
168.235.67.16/28
168.235.67.32/27
168.235.67.64/26
168.235.67.128/26
168.235.67.192/27
168.235.67.224/28
168.235.67.240/29
168.235.67.248/31
168.235.67.250/32
192.126.1.104/29
192.126.1.112/28
192.126.1.128/25
192.126.2.0/23
192.126.4.0/22
192.126.8.0/21
192.126.16.0/20
192.126.32.0/19
192.126.64.0/18
192.126.128.0/19
192.126.160.0/20
192.126.176.0/22
192.126.180.0/25
192.126.180.128/26
192.126.180.192/29
192.126.180.200/32
185.72.178.1/32
185.72.178.2/31
185.72.178.4/30
185.72.178.8/29
185.72.178.16/28
185.72.178.32/27
185.72.178.64/26
185.72.178.128/26
185.72.178.192/27
185.72.178.224/30
185.72.178.228/31
185.72.178.230/32
45.43.26.101/32
45.43.26.102/31
45.43.26.104/29
45.43.26.112/28
45.43.26.128/26
45.43.26.192/29
45.43.26.200/32
192.126.135.1/32
192.126.135.2/31
192.126.135.4/30
192.126.135.8/29
192.126.135.16/28
192.126.135.32/27
192.126.135.64/26
192.126.135.128/26
192.126.135.192/29
192.126.135.200/32
192.126.159.1/32
192.126.159.2/31
192.126.159.4/30
192.126.159.8/29
192.126.159.16/28
192.126.159.32/27
192.126.159.64/26
192.126.159.128/26
192.126.159.192/29
192.126.159.200/32
91.238.114.1/32
91.238.114.2/31
91.238.114.4/30
91.238.114.8/29
91.238.114.16/28
91.238.114.32/27
91.238.114.64/26
91.238.114.128/26
91.238.114.192/27
91.238.114.224/28
91.238.114.240/29
91.238.114.248/31
91.238.114.250/32
46.148.31.1/32
46.148.31.2/31
46.148.31.4/30
46.148.31.8/29
46.148.31.16/28
46.148.31.32/27
46.148.31.64/26
46.148.31.128/26
46.148.31.192/27
46.148.31.224/28
46.148.31.240/29
46.148.31.248/31
46.148.31.250/32
46.148.30.1/32
46.148.30.2/31
46.148.30.4/30
46.148.30.8/29
46.148.30.16/28
46.148.30.32/27
46.148.30.64/26
46.148.30.128/26
46.148.30.192/27
46.148.30.224/28
46.148.30.240/29
46.148.30.248/31
46.148.30.250/32
89.36.216.1/32
89.36.216.2/31
89.36.216.4/30
89.36.216.8/29
89.36.216.16/28
89.36.216.32/27
89.36.216.64/26
89.36.216.128/26
89.36.216.192/29
89.36.216.200/32

[mavenraven]

can we maybe make a centralized service similar to nastyhosts where faucet owners submit bad IPs and other faucet owners can query for it?

it will have problems like false positives, but if we weight it out with more respectable/trusted inputs, I think it can work rather well

But it will only check against "flagged" IPs.

I have been thinking about the opposite. Something like a members only faucet. IP and wallet will be checked at sign up and at every claim ever after. It would allow the faucet to "bind" a wallet to the ISP of the user.

yes, but at least the "flagged" IPs coverage will be greater if all faucet owners combine their resources instead of doing it individually.

also, we can do both!

we can have whitelist and blacklist, and faucet owner can then choose to be super strict (only IPs from white list) or be accepting of all IPs except the ones from the blacklist.

[BitBustah]

i have more than 100 online real visitot at the moment. i can not share this ip`s.

If you cant share them there's little I can do for you. If you are convinced that people with blocked IPs are still claiming at your faucet then your script might be corrupt.


Could you share your 'error_log' file? It's on your FTP server.

[netplus]

faucetbox is the intermediary between the users and the faucets owner
Why these problems ?
simply do not pay all this satoshi to scamer

[BitBustah]

Is there update FaucetBox script 

What do you mean by that? When there's an update of Faucet in a Box script, you can see a notice in your faucet's admin panel

The script isn't automatically updated, right?
Also, when there's an update, is there a bug fix list?
And, is there an update planned?

[Kazuldur]

faucetbox is the intermediary between the users and the faucets owner
Why these problems ?
simply do not pay all this satoshi to scamer

1. FaucetBOX.com doesn't know IPs of users the coins are sent to, only the script itself knows it
2. FaucetBOX.com doesn't have enough information to tell a difference between abuser and just an owner of a faucets list or a rotator with many referrals. It actually happened multiple times here when addresses were being accused of scamming, and later it turned out there were actually legit.
3. FaucetBOX.com is a payment cache. API call to pay to address was made, it's not FaucetBOX.com job to decide whether it's legit or not.

Is there update FaucetBox script  

What do you mean by that? When there's an update of Faucet in a Box script, you can see a notice in your faucet's admin panel

The script isn't automatically updated, right?
Also, when there's an update, is there a bug fix list?
And, is there an update planned?

1. no, it's not automatically updated
2. there's a list of changes that's shown in the admin panel when you're using outdated version
3. yup, there is, but nothing big, just minor tweaks

[Kazuldur]

attacker using difference ip`s. i blocked  ip`s via CIDR tool in faucetbox admin panel.but  faucetbox script can not block! i think script dosent work!

Easy to check. Just provide your own IP address and test if you're blocked. However please note that it'll also lock you out of the admin panel, so have another IP address to revert the change from.

[BitcoinFuture99]

Guys, it's irrelevant if captchas can by solved automatically or not. Current protections (captcha, timer per IP address) can be bypassed one way or another, it doesn't really matter how. The only thing that changes is whether we can call abusers bots, human-assisted scripts or rotators with built-in proxy switcher. The effect is the same: drained faucets, and there's only one solution: checking IP addresses.

I totally agree with you. Don't waste energy on captchas improvements and adding my point to it we have to introduce new ways to stop bots.

Now days Captcha is the real enemy for Faucets which never improved to deal with scammers and bots.

Every Captcha service should now verify each user before using captcha through registration or ID or phone number etc

[BitBustah]

Every Captcha service should now verify each user before using captcha through registration or ID or phone number etc

True. But I think that people who have access to multiple IPs will also have multiple hosts/domains and probably unlimited email addresses.

Phone numbers are a good option, but I'm one of those people who doesn't want to share his phone number for a few satoshi. I'm sure there are more people like me.

[BitcoinFuture99]

Every Captcha service should now verify each user before using captcha through registration or ID or phone number etc

True. But I think that people who have access to multiple IPs will also have multiple hosts/domains and probably unlimited email addresses.

Phone numbers are a good option, but I'm one of those people who doesn't want to share his phone number for a few satoshi. I'm sure there are more people like me.

Here is another point. Captcha service should not allow any Proxy IP and VPS to use its service. So main problem of visitors blockage will also be solved for faucet owners and revenue will also not be effected so much.

If Captcha Service cannot do this for all they should introduce new feature for blocking Proxy and VPS IPs. by choice of the owners, if owners want it enable it if not disable it

[BitBustah]

Here is another point. Captcha service should not allow any Proxy IP and VPS to use its service.

What makes the captcha service better in VPN/proxy detection than another service? Like NH or even a paying service?