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2. Escrow a must. In fact, the escrow will have to secure a safe deposit of 0.50 from renter just in case everything turns sour. (eg. epic flame-war, neg trust etc.)
You should mention that any such negative trust or dispute happening after the account has been given to the renter as any previous dispute would get him to lose his deposit . Also have a less amount for deposit, maybe something like the actual value of a Senior member account. |
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Probably a neutral trust from quickseller explaining the issue would have been better........
Dodging the deal after suggested escrow is a good reason for a red flag, if QS has evidence that accounts are linked/alts of one another, then -iver is justified. But i don't agree its ok to flag anyone without evidence. Since reputation is public, negative comment is public, then so should evidence proving claim also be public, and not something held back. Thats not exactly what happened with him. He agreed to an escrow, but didn't want to agree to the terms of the escrow(once QS sent him his terms) , and once he refused, QS wasn't able to get his 2$, so Quickselller neg repped him, and put in the excuse that he did so , to know the account details from the password change log. |
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https://youtu.be/uQZMaG1eO74?t=59Its no lie what few of the people say. Perhaps, you guys should read the post in the first page , and make sense out of it, than deviating the topic discussion.
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Well considering that you are asking for ~$1.60 worth of Bitcoin, I somewhat doubt that you have put any kind of effort into this.
It honestly sounds more like a donation scam to me.
Behold!! Inappropriate negative trust incoming on your account. I guess its not your fault if it does come. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1035687 |
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No, it's not banned account, it's a new one.I think IP proxy ban.
I tried to create 2 accounts a while ago but still I can't post.
Most probably you should pay a 'tax' and after you will be free to post and send PM. Have you used also TOR? Where or Who should I pay the tax? The messages usually will mention an amount that is to be paid and the address to be paid to. As soon as you pay the amount the ban will be lifted immediately. |
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Badbear has now banned the alts of superstar, but it seems he didn't go ahead for banning BTCBlogger account on the forum, whose original account was banned before, probably he is now atleast making atleast some constructive posts. |
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You could have just asked for proof, instead of doing all that work, but yeah that sums it as well. Same address used many times and signed. pagalwana was taken over by infran_pak when it defaulted on the loan, so any alts of pagalwana that is derived from posting history after the date of the OP would not be an alt of superSTAR777, they would be an alt of whoever purchased it from the lender. If an address was posted prior to the date of the OP then it would be a likely alt of superSTAR777 I never said, the current pagalwana was a scammer as well. But seems all the other accounts have done business with irfan and multiple loans, just like pagalwana. And even though he might not be a scammer, his behaviour is fishy more than mine, and even then you chose to remove his negative trust. But with me, you didn't even bother to look at the proof I posted. |
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Yeah you were right. The only PM I got was from someone with a post history of 1, who registered his account an hour or two after my April 26 post and never posted or came online again after I ignored the PM Think I'll leave it then !  You should be fine with proceeding with Ecuamobi or someone trusted, or the other option would be go to an exchange site where you can trade your btc for paypal. |
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The only thing I forsee happening is more argueing and fighting. I do not see a reasonable end to this no time soon unfortunately.
Well that is not true. Negative trusts can be explained and usually happen for a reason. It is pretty evident that worhipper had no extent of scamming , and Quickseller is treating him like a scammer, and even going to the degree of contacting you and getting information of his alt accounts. Quickseller is not doing this to keep the community safe. He is only doing it to that extent because of his personal grudge. Twipple, while I don't think that you're wrong, I do think you're treading on dangerous ground. Calling out quickseller for this kind of behavior is essentially why he went after me. On the other hand, it's usually better to be on the right side of history because in the long-run, he won't be getting away with this stuff forever. I am just calling out Quickseller because he is wrong in some cases, and he should let go of his ego and make responsible judgements at times. You can't expect people to keep quiet if they feel they have been incorrectly given a negative trust. And just because they post, you will never have quickseller remove his trust for them, because it makes him look wrong. I don't think he does a poor job of spotting scammers, Pointing out 10 scams, and getting 1 wrong doesn't make him look bad, but he thinks it does. And you will almost never see him agree to an incorrect reputation argument. Also, he is not right, because he agreed to remove negative trust from someone else's account, who almost exactly, had the same thing like me. And he did it, just because while selling, he was used as an escrow. |
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[...]Quickseller is [...] only doing it to that extent because of his personal grudge.
Not against the forum rules. Quickseller is doing exactly what you're all doing, scraping out some change from this forum. He's just better at it  Its not, but he is in the default trust list. It won't be justified if someone like badbear or theymos goes about giving negative trust just because they want to. Being in the default trust list, has to make him take some responsibility. |
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The only thing I forsee happening is more argueing and fighting. I do not see a reasonable end to this no time soon unfortunately.
Well that is not true. Negative trusts can be explained and usually happen for a reason. It is pretty evident that worhipper had no extent of scamming , and Quickseller is treating him like a scammer, and even going to the degree of contacting you and getting information of his alt accounts. Quickseller is not doing this to keep the community safe. He is only doing it to that extent because of his personal grudge. |
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If compromised means that they know it was mine? Then let it be compromised. I have never hid anything from the community nor will I. Now the post history of the account has absolutely zero to do with me. I bought the accounts, they sat in some random email til I could get rid of them. Worhipper did pay me for the account. No escrow was used. Since it was such a low amount, I did give him the benefit of doubt and sent the info to him before any type of escrow details could be worked out. He did send the btc promptly to me after he had the info for it.
If he did pay you, then thats all I meant from the things already discussed. Quickseller is just giving the account a negative rep for a personal grudge. worhipper hasn't actually scammed anyone out of any trade. |
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Because he's not wrong. Quickseller asked me about Worhiper a long time ago when this started, because he had seen that I had sold him a account. Quickseller said that he didn't know if he was attempting to scam or not, that he was gathering more information about it. Now this was right when Quickseller had given Worhiper the negative feedback. Maybe 2 or 3 days after. Quickseller also said that I did not have to give him the info he requested. That he was not 100% sure that Worhiper was going to use the account to scam, but wanted the info just to keep a eye on it. Of course I give it to him. You got Quickseller in one corner, a highly trusted member of the community, and the other a senior member with neutral trust with a questionable trade practice against him. http://imgur.com/05CPWhzBut with what you say and the information you gave, or posted here, it doesn't mean that worhipper scammed someone. People are not unhappy that worhipper has an alt revealed, but unhappy because firstly he got a negative trust for backing out of an escrow, and secondly despite backing out, he really didn't deserve a negative trust on all his alts or rather his main account itself. Did worhipper not end up paying you ? You also realize that by posting this info you let your other alts be compromised from the post history of gio3442 ? |
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If the OP wants to publicly deny that he is an alt of worhipper as I claimed in my trust report then I will post proof on the condition that he agrees to drop/lock all threads he has opened against me once I post proof.
If the op wishes to deny that he is an alt of worshipper , then why does he have to lock all threads against you ? Lets say he isn't an alt of the person accused, and goes about denying any relation , then are you saying you wouldn't post the proof to justify the negative rep you gave him ? |
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Ofcourse they are alts, they will probably be banned even if one of the accounts was spamming. They even registered to the same campaign together in a span of half hour, and that to in the same fashion, which was not how they were supposed to register for it(They just asked can I join) . https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1039932.20 |
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How is this post strengthening your arguement? I couldn't just accept your outlandish accusation like that. I don't see any arguement posed by you in the first place.
My arguement against your other account. My claim on this this account is that you are an alt of worhipper which you are. There is really no reason to post from two different accounts making the exact same claim against you. I don't see any reason to post further on this thread as your other thread is just as pointless. Perhaps since you are the one giving him a negative trust, and he is defending himself , you should post the proof of it being an alt, so atleast the other people know it as well. |
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Incase you guys didn't notice https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1043592.0He gave another account on the basis of it being an alt of worshipper. I find that really misuse of trust. Even though someone like worshipper didn't deserve it for just backing out of an escrow, it really didn't make him a scammer. But giving it to his alt and other accounts seems foolish and quickseller just trying to take revenge right now. |
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