it's quite confusing without automated updates... total deposits not true, everything out of place. people won't take it serious. can you do something about it?
don't take me wrong. i hope the site lives long
The bitcoin work with change address. My automated system concern who must be paid, how much and when, but for the rest I do it manually. Sorry if you don't like that, I do it as fast it's possible. I have interest to do it perfectly (1% fee), so please hope in my work. P.S : i'm waiting 6 confirmations for the payouts. You are doing a good job explaining and answering but 6 confirmations really?? Why?? Do you know it is 100% safe with 2confirmations? and probably 99.999% with 1confirmation? Haha you are very hurry guys ! I can down to 2 confirmations, as you want guys, i'm just the Game Master, I will do all my players want ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Of course we are in a hurry ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If I had to chose I would chose 0confirmations ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) It is going well! Game on!!
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it's quite confusing without automated updates... total deposits not true, everything out of place. people won't take it serious. can you do something about it?
don't take me wrong. i hope the site lives long
The bitcoin work with change address. My automated system concern who must be paid, how much and when, but for the rest I do it manually. Sorry if you don't like that, I do it as fast it's possible. I have interest to do it perfectly (1% fee), so please hope in my work. P.S : i'm waiting 6 confirmations for the payouts. You are doing a good job explaining and answering but 6 confirmations really?? Why?? Do you know it is 100% safe with 2confirmations? and probably 99.999% with 1confirmation?
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it's quite confusing without automated updates... total deposits not true, everything out of place. people won't take it serious. can you do something about it?
don't take me wrong. i hope the site lives long
The payments and the website updates are apparently manual so I wouldn't call this ponzi fully automated like OP said in his first message Payments can be sent now because all deposits except the last one have been confirmed, go go ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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The post you linked and the casino are very weird because there are a ton of bets but a bit shady infos about the bankroll, you can get a max profit of 40BTC which is huge for a 0.1% edge casino
The thread only has 2pages which is weird for a casino that is supposed to have operated more than a billion bets
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I deposited 0.01 and withdrew 0.04, good gambling experience here haha
It is weird not be able to withdraw less than the total balance and not being able to bet on the lottery with the balance
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That is a lot of negative comments for a casino that had 1.2billions bet, I don't find an other thread with more pages
I like the autobetting option that gives you the result immediately
They are fake bets. Can you elaborate I think there is a lot of bets because you can do 200bets in one sec A casino with a 0.1% edge only is interesting https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523178.0They are known scammers. I wouldn't trust anything they claim. I tried the website and won a bit, I will beware, thanks PD3 is coming and I prefer PD design
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First payout sent ! And website updated. HereI'm waiting confirmation for 16YdZDSZBzxxnP7gC2GSjghwyXtY4eQDhA ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Come on guys ! Let's play ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) P.S : The signature has changed due to a "suspicious link removed" now, they are link to bitcointalk thread and blockchain. It is good that the first 2 deposits were paid but it doesn't look like it is automatic payments as advertised It is fun that the max deposit is 0.03; I can see some fun coming for tonight ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I have automated system to know "how many to send" for "who" and "when" but the rest is do manually, don't want to have a bug or something like that :/ I am very rigorous don't worry about that, no mistake from me in my precedent games ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ok fair enough, please tell us when you AOK for an extended period of time (>5H) so we know you didn't run away with funds There is payments due as soon as the last deposits confirmed, stay connected to pay right away so we can roll and keep it going ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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OUCH, when did you first buy? I think almost everyone didn't buy when they first hear about it but if you were very decided to buy and believed in the coin it is an other story This year. At first I didn't want to waste money on it and was mining but purely CPU (and didn't want to join a pool, figured I'd just get ripped off... they'd use my power and not give me my share)... and pretty much no one accepted it, then exchanges started popping up and I didn't want to give my banking info out to some random company and still no one was really accepting it other than some places accepting it for donation. Then it started to gain real value and I was like "eh it can't last"... and it climbed higher, and higher and higher. I still honestly am unsure on bitcoins future, I accept it via my small business but in a month I've had 3 orders (out of about 100) pay with bitcoin. 1 from here, 2 from reddit. I've also bought about a hair over 1 BTC that is just sitting 'on' paper wallets. I don't plan on buying anymore however if I continue to get an occasional order paid via bitcoin I'll likely just add it to cold storage and see what it's worth in 10 years or liquidate if I ever have any emergency expenses that my cash savings can't cover. At one point though I was about to pull the trigger on 500 BTC, I was going to buy 500BTC and sell half every time value doubled. Had I done that I would have pocketed probably 150k after taxes by the time it hit 1k-1100 USD and I'd still have some left. Whatever. *shrugs* If you bought at 10$ and sold each time it doubled you would have made 30k and you would have 3BTC left, still nice but not 150k What did you use to create your paper wallet? I am thinking about doing one
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200euros tu veux dire Et si ça monte, à quel moment racheterais-tu? Disons que ça prenne 20% en une journée avec une grosse news, tu rachètes?
Si cela prend 20% en une journée , il y aura eu des "spread avec des decompression" me permettant de prendre position encore a un taux correct . ( Je nomme comme cela le phénomène apres uine gros changement . Il y a toujours un moment ou le cours redescend ou remonte proche de sont niveau precedent ) Je ragarderai la MACD et le StockRSI . Qui sont mes deux seul signaux que je prend en compte avec correction sur nouvelle ( confirmé ) et mon expérience du marche du bitcoin . Et les ligne de résistance et plafond, on les place toujours un peu comme on le veux et on s'arrange toujours avec ce que l'on veux voir. Je les utilise pas trop. Ou en les placement avec mon expérience du marché . Il y a une ligne de bascule ( résistance avec une chute très forte selon ma terminologie ) que l'on ne vois jamais mais qui auras lieu a la valeur des 300$ ( crack dit de chypre ). Je suis un novice et je n'utilise que les outils que j'ai compris et réussi a intégrer . Astuce1: Apres chaque grosse chute confirmé, j’achète jamais avant 3 jours Astuce2: Quand je trade avec un bot . Je recalcule toujours mes bougie avec un décalage temporelBougie de 1H: 11h58min a 12h57min Bougie de 15m: 13min a 27min Jouer avec les même chiffre amène les même comportement et permet des les devancer . D'accord donc tu trades le BTC avec des outils techniques et tu penses pouvoir racheter si la tendance s'inverse mais si tu crois dans le Bitcoin à long terme, c'est dangereux de n'en avoir aucun et d'être "full fiat" Quand tu dis "Il y a une ligne de bascule ( résistance avec une chute très forte selon ma terminologie ) que l'on ne vois jamais mais qui auras lieu a la valeur des 300$ ( crack dit de chypre )." tu veux dire "support avec une chute..."?
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First payout sent ! And website updated. HereI'm waiting confirmation for 16YdZDSZBzxxnP7gC2GSjghwyXtY4eQDhA ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Come on guys ! Let's play ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) P.S : The signature has changed due to a "suspicious link removed" now, they are link to bitcointalk thread and blockchain. It is good that the first 2 deposits were paid but it doesn't look like it is automatic payments as advertised It is fun that the max deposit is 0.03; I can see some fun coming for tonight ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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OUCH, when did you first buy? I think almost everyone didn't buy when they first hear about it but if you were very decided to buy and believed in the coin it is an other story
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That is a lot of negative comments for a casino that had 1.2billions bet, I don't find an other thread with more pages
I like the autobetting option that gives you the result immediately
They are fake bets. Can you elaborate I think there is a lot of bets because you can do 200bets in one sec A casino with a 0.1% edge only is interesting
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Personnellement quasiment tout vendu a 466€ et pour ceux qui doute voir mon twitter. ( 75%) J'attend un signal très ferme pour reprendre position . Et je le sens pas encore arrivé . Et je vois bien encore 1 ou 2 nouvelle arriver pour continuer a le faire chuter Je reprendrai position a 300€ voir 200€ ( mais la grosse résistance psychologique et entre 300$ et 400$ ) Si on descend en dessous de 200$ chose que je doute. je répond plus de rien et le sol pourrais être très très bas.
200euros tu veux dire Et si ça monte, à quel moment racheterais-tu? Disons que ça prenne 20% en une journée avec une grosse news, tu rachètes?
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Hey play away, but when you are supporting a ponzi then I will call you a shill. Sure you understand the difference, if you tell me you play a ponzi I could give 2 shucks less, but if you are like PONZI good PONZI good! Then I will shill list you lol
The guys who support them never step outside the bitcoin box to see how this looks from a far.
It does look bad and I wouldn't recommend playing ponzis to anyone I know in the real world nor hear but I think I am allowed to play ponzis sometimes and not being listed as an offender because I have posted at least as much saying ponzis are bad and dangerous as I have posted saying I have been paid I lost playing ponzis so I am the guy you should like because you want to protect me so why do you insult me if you have my best interests at heart?
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10,000$ before the end of November 2014 will not be that easy to achieve but it is possible
Betting 1 BTC pays: 4.34275277 BTC if the price is 10,000$ or more on Bitstamp, it's tempting but I think I would need better odds
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Haha it can seem very weird to non gambling rational people but playing ponzis can be fun even if you get sc.ammed so beware everyone! I sent to this one, for entertainment purposes i will give it a try, just sent 0.03BTC!
it's just starting, is the best time to invest!
First depositor should have been paid and you should be paid once my deposit is confirmed and 10minutes have elapsed, let's see
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It's only the beginning. The fiat economy is catching fire everywhere as the credit bubble implodes, which will implode every other bubble in commodities, education, housing, etc. until it hits a major bank that will tank the unregulated derivitives bubble (the Mother of all bubbles!), which will effectively kill the economy with a financial meteor strike.
The game is over, most just don't know it yet. I watch the graphs every day, and none of this is heading anywhere good. The global ponzi scheme laid out from the Federal Reserve is running out of gas. I don't think it will be long before extreme capital controls are everywhere, and bank runs are common all over as everyone tries to bail out.
The only place to go will be digital currencies. A run on the banks could very well spark a run on Bitcoin at the same time. This already happened once last April when Cyprus bank decided to basically steal funds from their depositors and Bitcoin got a huge spike. That was only a taster of whats to come.
Strap on your helmets, we're all about to go for a wild ride as the world changes drastically.
So I am not the only crazy guy who thinks the economic date is very bad in the states and that the USD will crash because of all the liabilities, corruption and waste Everyone will probably get the money that he is owed but only nominally because the purchasing power of this money will have diminish drastically, it would be better to do hair cuts everywhere and cut the bad debt and unsustainable liabilities but we know most politicians will chose the best choice for them which is not accepting reality and lying some more
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5$ + they will take 2-3% when exchanging the money compared to the rate they get Banks charge themselves 1/1000 when exchanging currencies
Last time I received an international bank wire it costed me 100$ and it was not a large sum
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The biggest problem I see is that there is no centralized body tracking the prices of bitcoin and other coins. So who's to say whether a bitcoin or goatcoin or dumbasscoin was worth 215 satoshis or 250 satoshis or 200 satoshis at the time it was exchanged/spent/mined? And even the exchanges mostly track the prices in terms of btc value, not USD - so are people going to calculate how much xyz-coin was worth in terms of BTC at the time they mined it, then calculate how much BTC was worth in terms of USD at that same time?
One person could say well I mined 5000 abc-coins and exchanged them at a rate of 200 satoshis each on mintpal, and then check the price of BTC/USD on BTC-e.
A second person could mine the same 5000 abc-coins but exchange them on cryptsy and get 215 satoshis each, then check the price of BTC/USD on Coinbase and arrive at a completely different result.
And who is keeping track of the history of all these values? What proof do you have if the IRS audits you down the road, and joe-blow-exchange which you had used to swap many of your coins, is closed/out of business and cannot produce records?
This could get very tricky. I think it would make a lot more sense if they just said look, when you convert any coin to USD then you owe taxes on the gain based on how much fiat you got right then and there. As far as coins spent at merchants, I can't even think of a feasible way to deal with that... it's one thing if you make a large purchase, but what if you made many small purchases? Mountains of paperwork...
You have to keep track of everything If you mine them the price you got the BTC is 0$ + costs; if you sell them on an exchange, the selling price is what you get and if you buy something with the BTC it is the market price of that item When you sell you use the btc you got the cheapest or the price of the oldest coins first or if you want to gamble with the irs you use a price average More infos here from a us tax lawyer : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1uccfz/i_am_a_tax_attorney_here_are_my_answers_to_the/
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![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) c'est bête, j'ai déjà épuisé mes 3000 euros de migration mensuel (Eur -> BTC), je peux plus acheter. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Comme c'est parti, d'ici quelques jours, tu vas pouvoir en acheter encore plus... (sous les 400$). Bonne affaire non? 3000euros t'as accumulé un bon paquet de bitcoins tu n'as plus qu'à attendre la remontée vers les plus hauts Moi j'ai acheté un peu et j'envoye du fiat pour acheter un peu plus si ça descend Le problème c'est que je dépense aussi des BTC donc je n'en ai pas bcp
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