Ok ok! Jeez. No need to get mad. There is no God! There. Happy? We're agreed.
Meh? Not getting mad at you. And my problem is about how BADecker talks and decide arbitrarily that this is truth and this is not... He has to. He is like a cornered animal. People like that will hang on to their belief regardless of the evidence that completely refutes their claims. Look at Kurt Wise ( PhD in Geology from Harvard) He said that even if all the evidence in the universe flatly contradicted Scripture (which it does) , and even if he had reached the point of admitting this to himself, he would still take his stand on Scripture and deny the evidence. That is profound. This virus runs deep in his veins.... I know. Everytime I think I got him, he just ignores a fact and go on xD Of course you're talking about BADecker and not me. If you are talking about me, it's a virus that propels me to health and life. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) My good man, just because you're misguided and are believing in a non-existent "super entity" doesn't mean we wish you harm or death. We atheists are pro life. Live long and prosper. The whole idea for me showing you the scientific proof that God exists, is so that you will start to look for Him and hopefully find eternal life. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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We are created from atoms and cells. Essentially we are just a sophisticated biological machine in which when one piece of matter moves or behaves in a certain way it creates a chain reaction. A beautiful mathematical and biological orchestra of unfathomable precision. Given enough time and resources every component that makes up our bodies and minds can be dismantled and explained through science. So i ask again do you truly believe that you are alive?
People have souls and spirits. Souls and spirits have their own distinct realms, and survive without the body. This life is simply where these all meet together in a lively way. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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This time I agree with you. They take only what they like from their holy books. And seeing as how war is the most profitable business, I wouldn't wonder if all sides supported them. The peace listed in the holy Islamic writings is true and wonderful peace. But it is only for the faithful Muslims. The violence is directed at people who will not convert, or Muslims who fall away. Of course, the in-fighting among the groups of Muslims comes about because they all think that other groups are those who have fallen away. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Ok ok! Jeez. No need to get mad. There is no God! There. Happy? We're agreed.
Meh? Not getting mad at you. And my problem is about how BADecker talks and decide arbitrarily that this is truth and this is not... He has to. He is like a cornered animal. People like that will hang on to their belief regardless of the evidence that completely refutes their claims. Look at Kurt Wise ( PhD in Geology from Harvard) He said that even if all the evidence in the universe flatly contradicted Scripture (which it does) , and even if he had reached the point of admitting this to himself, he would still take his stand on Scripture and deny the evidence. That is profound. This virus runs deep in his veins.... I know. Everytime I think I got him, he just ignores a fact and go on xD Of course you're talking about BADecker and not me. If you are talking about me, it's a virus that propels me to health and life. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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.... No we're talking about few dozens of people... There is nothing in Europe, terrorists attack make maybe 200 deaths a year! In whole Europe!!! Seriously more people die from cows than from terrorist attacks!!! ....
Sadly, you are grossly mistaken. www.thereligionofpeace.comSadly, again, your source doesn't apply to my comment. I'm talking about terrorist attacks in Europe, you're giving me the attacks in the world. The site while being interesting doesn't allow such filter. But when you go quickly around the list of attacks in a year, you also see that the vast majority of terrorists attacks are done in Muslim and midle East countries. You seem to repeated post false statements. I have no doubt this is true of you believing what the puppetmasters tell you to believe. Mindlessly repeating their assurances that you are very safe in france. Here is 2015 in your country. 2015.11.13 France Paris 19 9 Islamic terrorists pile up nineteen bodies at a restaurant (Belle Equipe). 2015.11.13 France Paris 0 3 Islamic terrorists stage a suicide bombing outside a cafe Comptoir Voltaire). 2015.11.13 France Paris 1 0 Islamic terrorists eliminate a passerby with two suicide blasts outside a soccer stadium (Stade de France) and a nearby McDonalds's. 2015.11.13 France Paris 15 10 Islamic terrorists massacre fifteen innocents at two restaurants (Le Carillon and Le Petit Cambodge). 2015.11.13 France Paris 5 8 Islamic terrorists shoot up a bar and pizzeria, killing five patrons (La Bonne Biere, Casa Nostra). 2015.11.13 France Paris 89 322 Islamic terrorists open fire and throw bombs during a concert at a music hall, slaughtering nearly ninety innocents while shouting 'Allah Akbar' (Bataclan). 2015.10.24 France Marseille 0 2 A man yelling 'Allah Akbar' attacks a rabbi in a synagogue and stabs another Jew trying to help. 2015.08.21 France Paris 0 3 A Muslim trained by ISIS opens fire with a Kalashnikov on a train before being subdued by unarmed American passengers. 2015.06.26 France Lyon 1 2 A 'normal Muslim' attacks a factory, beheads one worker and raises the Islamist flag after hoisting the severed head on a fence. 2015.04.19 France Villejuif 1 0 A 24-year-old woman is shot to death by an Islamic extremist who planned a shooting rampage. 2015.02.03 France Nice 0 3 Three French soldiers standing guard at a Jewish center are stabbed by a radical Muslim. 2015.01.09 France Paris 4 5 Four hostages are taken and killed by an Islamic gunman at a Jewish grocery. 2015.01.08 France Montrouge 1 1 A policewoman investigating a traffic accident is ambushed and killed by a Muslim extremist. 2015.01.07 France Paris 12 10 A dozen people are slaughtered by gunmen 'avenging' the prophet at a newspaper office which printed satirical cartoons critical of Islam. 2015.11.18 France Marseille 0 1 A Jewish teacher is stabbed by 'radicalized' Muslims. And the reasons why the Islamites do the violence are listed here http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Do you spend much time coming up with these sci-fi ideas or do they come naturally to you?
The scientists come up with them. That's why they call them theories. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) So you're only parroting them back. I see. Now that you think you see, you are really blind. If you said that you did not see, there might be hope for you. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Do you spend much time coming up with these sci-fi ideas or do they come naturally to you?
The scientists come up with them. That's why they call them theories. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I guess you guys in France must have polite, respectful Criminals who obey the laws.
In France, there are millions of illegal firearms in circulation. Some of the immigrant dominated banlieues (districts) are outside the jurisdiction of the police force. They are literally no-go zones for the cops. The criminals decide everything in these ghettos. Occasionally the cops conduct a major raid or two, but they soon pull out once the short term objective is achieved. ... or once they are dead, which the media doesn't publicize much. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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... On the bright side, as people get smarter, they ditch that stone age religion nonsense...
+1 That is exactly right. Education is the key. I have no problem in people believing whatever they want. I have problem with their missionary work. When they preach what they believe to others and invoke science to justify their hallucinations. Science and religion should only intersect in mental research facilities. And this is exactly what happens - science and religion intersecting - when people believe that science theory is truth. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Damn. I wonder how long did the CELG (church emergency logic group) discuss that piece before they come up with the stone raising itself.
However long it took, it is there for your salvation. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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even charles darwin was believe that god exist
Are you sure about that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Charles_DarwinThough reticent about his religious views, in 1879 he responded that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a god, and that generally "an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind." He went as far as saying that "Science has nothing to do with Christ, except insofar as the habit of scientific research makes a man cautious in admitting evidence. For myself, I do not believe that there ever has been any revelation. As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities."
With respect to the theological view of the question; this is always painful to me.— I am bewildered.– I had no intention to write atheistically. But I own that I cannot see, as plainly as others do, & as I [should] wish to do, evidence of design & beneficence on all sides of us. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent & omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidæ with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars, or that a cat should play with mice. Not believing this, I see no necessity in the belief that the eye was expressly designed.
He states in his own writings that he is an Agnostic / soft AtheistP.S. I'm starting to understand why religitards like BADecker hate Wikipedia... Ahah! For sure he hates that! Can you imagine? People from all around the world sharing knowledge and THINKING!!! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Horrible. How will people continue to believe in god if they start to think? ^^ No wonder you like Wikipedia so much. All you have to do is get in there and write whatever nonsense you want, and people think you are a great guy. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ouch! Seems like you have no idea how wikipedia really works... Yeah you can write whatever you want but dozens of people are going to check your work. If you're wrong they're going to warn you once or twice and correct you and then they'll ban you if you persist in writing nonsense. Seems like you have no idea how science theory works. Watch this one and weep. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FDz2A4qXJQjc%2Fmqdefault.jpg&t=663&c=GrduLb1oyfWLVQ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz2A4qXJQjc ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Why do people even need to talk about god in 21 century? We just need to apply most of good things from every religion.. Don't kill, don't steal.. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.azquotes.com%2Fpicture-quotes%2Fquote-if-god-can-do-anything-he-can-make-a-stone-so-heavy-that-even-he-can-t-lift-it-then-lucretius-133-61-80.jpg&t=663&c=TBzZ5sV3cxc7jg) People don't realize that they need to talk about God for exactly this reason. God DID make a Stone that was so heavy that He couldn't lift it. Then, the Stone did what God wanted, and lifted itself. That Stone was Jesus Christ, the Rock, who lifted Himself up onto the cross (by allowing the Jews to do it to Him) so that the sins of the whole world would be taken away, and many people could be saved. The mysterious thing about this is, when Jesus did it, because He was God as well as man, He was setting people on a level plain right next to Himself. People now have a choice. They can be like God, or they can destroy themselves in the weakness of remaining as man. The way people are like God is to accept Jesus as their Savior. If they deny Jesus as their Savior, they can do it, because they have the power of God in themselves to reject Godness. But, if they reject the Godness in themselves, there is no other way for them to be saved. Come to Jesus and be saved. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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even charles darwin was believe that god exist
Are you sure about that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Charles_DarwinThough reticent about his religious views, in 1879 he responded that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a god, and that generally "an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind." He went as far as saying that "Science has nothing to do with Christ, except insofar as the habit of scientific research makes a man cautious in admitting evidence. For myself, I do not believe that there ever has been any revelation. As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities."
With respect to the theological view of the question; this is always painful to me.— I am bewildered.– I had no intention to write atheistically. But I own that I cannot see, as plainly as others do, & as I [should] wish to do, evidence of design & beneficence on all sides of us. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent & omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidæ with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars, or that a cat should play with mice. Not believing this, I see no necessity in the belief that the eye was expressly designed.
He states in his own writings that he is an Agnostic / soft AtheistP.S. I'm starting to understand why religitards like BADecker hate Wikipedia... Ahah! For sure he hates that! Can you imagine? People from all around the world sharing knowledge and THINKING!!! ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Horrible. How will people continue to believe in god if they start to think? ^^ No wonder you like Wikipedia so much. All you have to do is get in there and write whatever nonsense you want, and people think you are a great guy. You clearly have never tried to edit Wikipedia and "write whatever nonsense you want"... Why don't you try some day? Go for it! Edit the Evolution page... change it to say Evolution is a big conspiracy and a lie... Test: 1) If you are even capable of editing the Wikipedia page 2) How long your misinformation stays on Wikipedia Test your hypothesis (like any scientist would)... fucking do it, don't be a pussy! I'll simply continue to take Wikipedia with a grain of salt. After all, even in the faulty explanations that they allow, one can find some grains of truth. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Proof for the existence of God is found in the 3 scientific laws: 1. cause and effect; 2. complex universe; 3. universal entropy.
No matter how many times you state this nonsense, it will never make it true If you actually want to convince someone that you are correct, you must elaborate with supporting evidence, sources, examples, etc... otherwise you are simply a troll repeating bullshit that you pulled out of your ass I don't particularly care that you are convinced of anything. It's a whole lot easier for me to not spend time explaining things. I did it for your benefit and for the benefit of others who read it. Thanks for letting me know that you don't like the truth, at least in some ways. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Tsk. Tsk. Got you backed into a corner. You are going off on political science tangents, because political science is the only thing that can prove something that is false to be true. It's call lying, one of the great parts of political science.
When you have lost a debate, do not resort to Ad-Hominem attacks... it makes you look childish, and proves you have no evidence to support your claims I'll try to remember that for a time when I do any debating. Thanks. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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EDIT: Btw, your video is simply some joker talking about some things he seems to believe. No proof is offered for or against Darwinism.
You clearly did not watch the video... please stop pretending you did... I believe the bible says you are not supposed to lie, correct? I never said it offered proof for or against Darwinism... I said he details exactly how Christians twist the words of Darwin to imply something that Darwin did not intend I expect that everybody twists something sometime. What does that have to do with anything that we were discussing? Proof for the existence of God is found in the 3 scientific laws: 1. cause and effect; 2. complex universe; 3. universal entropy. If you can't figure out how it works, look at some of my previous posts where I explain it. To recap, the existence of God is scientific law. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Chuckle. The fact that you get bent all out of shape, shows that you wouldn't be able to understand it if it were given to you. But, I'll help you. Google search: 1. "Cause and effect;" 2. "Complex universe;" 3. "Universal entropy."
As others have previously mentioned... stating this proves nothing to anyone... I fully understand these concepts and in no way does it imply or require God If you wish to convince anyone... you MUST stop with the personal attacks and provide some fucking evidence to support your claim... otherwise you are simply a troll I have watched some of these videos, and like most Christian propaganda (yourself included), they do not understand the basics of what they are talking about... so of course they reach incorrect conclusions... For example... in this video: Case for a Creator - Biological Information ClipIllustra Media makes the claim that DNA is simply too complicated to have been assembled out of nothing... therefore God... Now, in reality, DNA did not come from nothing... so they are partially correct... DNA had several predecessors, which were simpler in form and function ( RNA for example) They also make the claim that "theories proposing that this information arose through the self-organizing power of chemicals in a primordial soup have repeatedly failed"... this is simply ignorance here... The Miller-Urey experiment proved this in 1952, and has been duplicated and verified many times since then... Most recently, http://www.nasa.gov/content/nasa-ames-reproduces-the-building-blocks-of-life-in-laboratoryWe have demonstrated for the first time that we can make uracil, cytosine, and thymine, all three components of RNA and DNA, non-biologically in a laboratory under conditions found in space If this is the of source of your misinformation, I understand why everything you say is so completely wrong Tsk. Tsk. Got you backed into a corner. You are going off on political science tangents, because political science is the only thing that can prove something that is false to be true. It's call lying, one of the great parts of political science. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Hey, man. The scientific laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy aren't twisted by believers in God. They are twisted by the atheists. If you bothered to watch the video you are responding to, you would see exactly what I am referring to... this is proven fact, not speculation like everything you post Universal cause and effect throws Darwin right out the window. Why? Cause and effect allows no random. No random completely destroys Darwin, because the only way things can happen Darwin's way, is if there is randomness. The only reason probability exists is to fill the gaps of human weakness. People can't measure everything. So, to help them with their measurements, they have developed a thing called probability. In reality, probability does not exist. Everything that exists, exists precisely according to whatever causal laws and actions made them exist. This is standard science. The probability of quantum, and Darwinism, shows that both of them belong to a virtual world. Both exist. They exist virtually, not in reality. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) EDIT: Btw, your video is simply some joker talking about some things he seems to believe. No proof is offered for or against Darwinism.
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