Proof that God exists

[BADecker]

even charles darwin was believe that god exist

Are you sure about that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Charles_Darwin

Though reticent about his religious views, in 1879 he responded that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a god, and that generally "an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind." He went as far as saying that "Science has nothing to do with Christ, except insofar as the habit of scientific research makes a man cautious in admitting evidence. For myself, I do not believe that there ever has been any revelation. As for a future life, every man must judge for himself between conflicting vague probabilities."

With respect to the theological view of the question; this is always painful to me.— I am bewildered.– I had no intention to write atheistically. But I own that I cannot see, as plainly as others do, & as I [should] wish to do, evidence of design & beneficence on all sides of us. There seems to me too much misery in the world. I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent & omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidæ with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars, or that a cat should play with mice. Not believing this, I see no necessity in the belief that the eye was expressly designed.

He states in his own writings that he is an Agnostic / soft Atheist



P.S. I'm starting to understand why religitards like BADecker hate Wikipedia...

Ahah!

For sure he hates that! Can you imagine? People from all around the world sharing knowledge and THINKING!!! 

Horrible. How will people continue to believe in god if they start to think? ^^

No wonder you like Wikipedia so much. All you have to do is get in there and write whatever nonsense you want, and people think you are a great guy.

Ouch! Seems like you have no idea how wikipedia really works...

Yeah you can write whatever you want but dozens of people are going to check your work. If you're wrong they're going to warn you once or twice and correct you and then they'll ban you if you persist in writing nonsense.

Seems like you have no idea how science theory works. Watch this one and weep.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz2A4qXJQjc

 

[BADecker]

Damn. I wonder how long did the CELG (church emergency logic group) discuss that piece before they come up with the stone raising itself.

However long it took, it is there for your salvation.   

[eon89]

Oh no BADecker. "Don't write multiple posts like that. You're spamming". Let's see the spam nazis come.

[eon89]

Damn. I wonder how long did the CELG (church emergency logic group) discuss that piece before they come up with the stone raising itself.

However long it took, it is there for your salvation.    

So I was right! Well that was funny. Actually the invisible bunny rabbit lifted the stone with his mind.

[mrflibblehat]

Ok ok! Jeez. No need to get mad. There is no God! There. Happy? We're agreed.

Meh? Not getting mad at you.

And my problem is about how BADecker talks and decide arbitrarily that this is truth and this is not...

He has to.  He is like a cornered animal.  People like that will hang on to their belief regardless of the evidence that completely refutes their claims.

Look at Kurt Wise (PhD in Geology from Harvard) He said that even if all the evidence in the universe flatly contradicted Scripture (which it does) , and even if he had reached the point of admitting this to himself, he would still take his stand on Scripture and deny the evidence.

That is profound.  This virus runs deep in his veins....

I know. Everytime I think I got him, he just ignores a fact and go on xD

Of course you're talking about BADecker and not me.

[BADecker]

Ok ok! Jeez. No need to get mad. There is no God! There. Happy? We're agreed.

Meh? Not getting mad at you.

And my problem is about how BADecker talks and decide arbitrarily that this is truth and this is not...

He has to.  He is like a cornered animal.  People like that will hang on to their belief regardless of the evidence that completely refutes their claims.

Look at Kurt Wise (PhD in Geology from Harvard) He said that even if all the evidence in the universe flatly contradicted Scripture (which it does) , and even if he had reached the point of admitting this to himself, he would still take his stand on Scripture and deny the evidence.

That is profound.  This virus runs deep in his veins....

I know. Everytime I think I got him, he just ignores a fact and go on xD

Of course you're talking about BADecker and not me.

If you are talking about me, it's a virus that propels me to health and life.   

[mrflibblehat]

Ok ok! Jeez. No need to get mad. There is no God! There. Happy? We're agreed.

Meh? Not getting mad at you.

And my problem is about how BADecker talks and decide arbitrarily that this is truth and this is not...

He has to.  He is like a cornered animal.  People like that will hang on to their belief regardless of the evidence that completely refutes their claims.

Look at Kurt Wise (PhD in Geology from Harvard) He said that even if all the evidence in the universe flatly contradicted Scripture (which it does) , and even if he had reached the point of admitting this to himself, he would still take his stand on Scripture and deny the evidence.

That is profound.  This virus runs deep in his veins....

I know. Everytime I think I got him, he just ignores a fact and go on xD

Of course you're talking about BADecker and not me.

If you are talking about me, it's a virus that propels me to health and life.    

My good man, just because you're misguided and are believing in a non-existent "super entity" doesn't mean we wish you harm or death. We atheists are pro life. Live long and prosper.

[BADecker]

Ok ok! Jeez. No need to get mad. There is no God! There. Happy? We're agreed.

Meh? Not getting mad at you.

And my problem is about how BADecker talks and decide arbitrarily that this is truth and this is not...

He has to.  He is like a cornered animal.  People like that will hang on to their belief regardless of the evidence that completely refutes their claims.

Look at Kurt Wise (PhD in Geology from Harvard) He said that even if all the evidence in the universe flatly contradicted Scripture (which it does) , and even if he had reached the point of admitting this to himself, he would still take his stand on Scripture and deny the evidence.

That is profound.  This virus runs deep in his veins....

I know. Everytime I think I got him, he just ignores a fact and go on xD

Of course you're talking about BADecker and not me.

If you are talking about me, it's a virus that propels me to health and life.    

My good man, just because you're misguided and are believing in a non-existent "super entity" doesn't mean we wish you harm or death. We atheists are pro life. Live long and prosper.

The whole idea for me showing you the scientific proof that God exists, is so that you will start to look for Him and hopefully find eternal life.

[mrflibblehat]

Show me proof that looks as something like: E=mc2. Not "God exists because the universe exists".

[af_newbie]

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The whole idea for me showing you the scientific proof that God exists, is so that you will start to look for Him and hopefully find eternal life.

Except science never proved God or eternal life.

Stop repeating this nonsense.

[BADecker]

Show me proof that looks as something like: E=mc2. Not "God exists because the universe exists".

"God exists because the universe exists" is a good one. I'm not into math enough to do it with mathematical equations.

If you combine the laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, you will find God. It isn't all that difficult to do. But few people find anything when they are not willing to accept it when they find it.

[mrflibblehat]

Show me proof that looks as something like: E=mc2. Not "God exists because the universe exists".

"God exists because the universe exists" is a good one. I'm not into math enough to do it with mathematical equations.

If you combine the laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, you will find God. It isn't all that difficult to do. But few people find anything when they are not willing to accept it when they find it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah - you've said those three things before. Still, they don't mean a thing in regards with the existence of God.

[BADecker]

Show me proof that looks as something like: E=mc2. Not "God exists because the universe exists".

"God exists because the universe exists" is a good one. I'm not into math enough to do it with mathematical equations.

If you combine the laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, you will find God. It isn't all that difficult to do. But few people find anything when they are not willing to accept it when they find it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah - you've said those three things before. Still, they don't mean a thing in regards with the existence of God.

That's because you are only looking at the words. You are not combining the laws. Combine the laws with a little bit of an idea to see if God exists, and you will see that those laws almost shout "God."

[mrflibblehat]

Show me proof that looks as something like: E=mc2. Not "God exists because the universe exists".

"God exists because the universe exists" is a good one. I'm not into math enough to do it with mathematical equations.

If you combine the laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, you will find God. It isn't all that difficult to do. But few people find anything when they are not willing to accept it when they find it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah - you've said those three things before. Still, they don't mean a thing in regards with the existence of God.

That's because you are only looking at the words. You are not combining the laws. Combine the laws with a little bit of an idea to see if God exists, and you will see that those laws almost shout "God."

The fact that certain things and actions exist in the universe means that God exists? That makes no sense.
The fact that a tree grows is proof of God's existence? Or just plant biology happening?

[BADecker]

Show me proof that looks as something like: E=mc2. Not "God exists because the universe exists".

"God exists because the universe exists" is a good one. I'm not into math enough to do it with mathematical equations.

If you combine the laws of cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, you will find God. It isn't all that difficult to do. But few people find anything when they are not willing to accept it when they find it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah - you've said those three things before. Still, they don't mean a thing in regards with the existence of God.

That's because you are only looking at the words. You are not combining the laws. Combine the laws with a little bit of an idea to see if God exists, and you will see that those laws almost shout "God."

The fact that certain things and actions exist in the universe means that God exists? That makes no sense.
The fact that a tree grows is proof of God's existence? Or just plant biology happening?

That God is shown to exist through these laws does not lie in the simple fact that these laws exist. It lies in the fact that that they cannot exist together in a universe such as ours without God existing.

[mrflibblehat]

The laws cannot exist without God existing?
And the sky cannot be blue without people looking up at it.

[af_newbie]

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That God is shown to exist through these laws does not lie in the simple fact that these laws exist. It lies in the fact that that they cannot exist together in a universe such as ours without God existing.

Why?

[mrflibblehat]

And also, and I divert a bit, why aren't in our modern days real prophets or miracle workers like in the days of old when the apostoles lived?
So we can see the power of God by ourselves.

[mrflibblehat]

And also, and I divert a bit, why aren't in our modern days real prophets or miracle workers like in the days of old when the apostoles lived?
So we can see the power of God by ourselves.

I'm sure we have them.  They spend their days taking medications in mental hospitals.

Hahaha. Thanks man. I haven't laughed so good in a long time.
And now - let the hunt begin! (BADecker - that's your cue!)

[Moloch]

And also, and I divert a bit, why aren't in our modern days real prophets or miracle workers like in the days of old when the apostoles lived?
So we can see the power of God by ourselves.

I'm sure we have them.  They spend their days taking medications in mental hospitals.

So true...

God talks to Moses... alone... on a mountain = religion

Anyone else claims God spoke to them = insane


Why the double standard?  Why not lump Moses in with all the other lunatics who claim they talk to God?