The pope and his Roman Catholic church is yet to donate a single penny to the recent wave of immigrants from Syria. Vatican has not given refugee status to anyone from the Middle East. He is not ready to share the expenses of housing the immigrants in Europe. He expects the European tax payers to sponsor it instead. Can this guy become any more shameless?
Don't be silly... Religions only take your money to live the high life... They don't spend it helping those in need... That's why God invented Atheists Religions get donations. Atheists steal. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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good quotes.. pope and other religious guys should eat their own shit.. and leave us alone.. Fantastic! I forgot about how tall the Vatican City walls were... what is that? Around 50 feet tall? I suppose the pope also forgot that part in the bible where it says... and I quote: You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye Not believing in God gives you the biggest log-in-eye. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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So... the pope recently said that Catholics are allowed to use condoms to help prevent the spread of the Zika virus...
Why would Catholics need condoms? Is he implying that God won't protect them from Zika?
yes he is definetely implying this.. god save the catholics from all bad things in this world except zika virus.. because zika virus isnt created by god.. it is created by atheists ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) If I would ever meet that Pope character, I'd ask him: "Hey buddy, how come your God sent Zika on us in the first place? Why does he wants to kill us? Can you tell your God to leave us alone? Why is he tormenting children, old and disabled? Not very Christian of him." He has audacity to say that Trump is not Christian, implying like it is noble thing to be one. Give me a break. The guy is a joke. Thank God he is the last pope. People made Zika, not God. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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So... the pope recently said that Catholics are allowed to use condoms to help prevent the spread of the Zika virus...
Why would Catholics need condoms? Is he implying that God won't protect them from Zika?
yes he is definetely implying this.. god save the catholics from all bad things in this world except zika virus.. because zika virus isnt created by god.. it is created by atheists ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) No, no. Good Catholics do not believe in Jesus salvation. Good Catholics will go to Hell. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I'm not Catholic, but I confused at how Catholics criticize the Pope when they believe the Pope to be infallible. If the Pope can't be wrong, the how can Catholics disagree with him?
He's close to infallibly wrong as you can get. We should elect him rather than Trump. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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So... the pope recently said that Catholics are allowed to use condoms to help prevent the spread of the Zika virus...
Why would Catholics need condoms? Is he implying that God won't protect them from Zika?
God gives you what you ask for. If you ask for Zika by not using protection, He'll give it to you. But often He doesn't give you bad things that you ask for because He understands how stupidly foolish you are. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I love it. The pope and Donald Trump trolling the fuck out of each other. I cannot stand DT but he has some good points about immigration--but I still would not vote for him in a million lifetimes. And the pope. Yeah whatever. Not sure why religious leaders are still relevant in 2016. Have we not evolved beyond that?
No evolution. Only cause and effect. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I don't want to win these communist countries if they will win World War III then they will conquer the world and they will forced us to be a communist. Everything in the bible is happening. Nations against nations, brothers against brother killing one another. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Communist countries? Which ones? As per my understanding, the only communist / socialist countries existing right now are the United States and the European Union member nations. Russia and China have adopted capitalism long back. The communist party and its offshoots are not in power in any of the former Soviet Union republics. I agree. We in the west have this modern day socialism where money is taken from low income taxpayer workers and given to the banks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It certainly is this way to some small extent. Things have changed. The banking Ponzi ran out of people and companies in the U.S. long ago. That's why they are going after the world, even if they have to start wars to bring these people into their Ponzi. The people of the world are resisting going into the Ponzi, or continuing it it if their country is in it already. In addition, the Euro Ponzi is about European bankers trying to make their own brand of a Ponzi, and make their portion to the Federal Reserve Bank Ponzi work better for them. ISIS is about fighting to stay out of the Ponzi. China and Asia is about tying to make a dual system work - Ponzi and value money. Ponzi's don't last forever. The resistance to the Ponzi, along with the using yup of people in the world to be brought in, is bringing the Ponzi down. When it crashes, be ready with gold and silver, and maybe Bitcoin. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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It certainly is possible for a religion to cause a people to exist perpetually in dire poverty.
The same stands true for most of the major religions. But in case of Islam, the problem is very much evident. Has anyone ever thought what would have happened to the Muslim nations, if there were no oil / gas reserves? The OPEC nations in the Gulf region, such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar are subsidizing the other Muslim nations such as Pakistan and Bangladesh. Without the oil money, these nations will disintegrate. Without the oil and gas reserves, the world would have left the muslim nations to fight amongst themselves and disintegrate. The world might have been a safer place to live in. Better late than never. The crude oil prices have fallen to $30 per barrel from the 2014-levels of $110 per barrel. The price of natural gas, which was going at $400 per thousand cubic meters is now fluctuating between $140 and $150 per thousand cubic meters. Soon the monetary reserves built by the Arab nations will run out. And along with that, their negative influence over the world will also wane. Oil prices are low and that should drive this economy with cheap gas but it doesn't.... how bad is this economy then? We're waiting for the price of cars and their maintenance to come down, the roads to be repaired, miles per gallon to at least triple, and traffic cops to be gone. Will a bad economy fix this? It might remove the cops and the price of car maintenance, if it gets bad enough. Cops won't work for no pay, and supply and demand will bring maintenance down. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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The fact that I don't know everything about entropy doesn't have anything to do with it. Why not? Because nobody but nobody knows everything about entropy. The things that we DO know about entropy show that nothing that is complex comes from something less complex without the help of something that is more complex than both. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) BADecker, we had this discussion before and I explained in detail why entropy is not the same as complexity, and why what you just wrote is wrong. Should we have that discussion again, or just link to the relevant thread? You are so silly. For example, if I point out the sky to you, and then explain that the sky is blue, this doesn't mean that I am the sky, right? In a similar way entropy expresses basics about complexity. But that doesn't mean that entropy is complexity, right? But go ahead. Knock yourself out (Sean Connery said that in "Medicine Man"... the Knock yourself out, part). Explain some more that entropy isn't complexity if you like. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Your statement: "nothing that is complex comes from something less complex without the help of something that is more complex" is false. Do you have an example of things as you say? After all, you can see cause and effect all over the place. Certainly there is complexity all around us. Everything wears out and disperses and dissipates as entropy predicts. Takes two people to make a child - greater complexity making lesser complexity. People make cars - greater complexity making lesser complexity. What is your example regarding the reverse, lesser complexity making greater complexity? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) How are you measuring the complexity of a child vis a vis the complexity of an adult? How about parents having octuplets -- surely eight babies in one birth are more complex than two adults? The complexity of conception is greater the child. Why? Because no child comes about without it. Even if we can create a child in the lab and test tube without standard conception, no conception happens without the complexity of the things that cause it to happen. Cause and effect stand. No cause to make conception happen, no child. Conception is more complex than the child, because without its complexity, no child would happen. Entropy is proven to be the result of conception, because lesser complexity is caused to happen by the greater complexity of conception. In addition... ...
Entropy means heat/disorder/randomness, not complexity...
Exactly. Entropy means the breaking down of complexity in dispersal, diffusion, and equilibratory action happening on everything in the universe, even on heat energy. Since entropy is the result of every action, at least to some small extent, nothing more complex can come from something less complex. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Dumb.. there is only two. Sativa & Indica.
All those made up cheesy names etc are bullshit.
Retarded.. THC is THC
It's kinda a shame that you had trouble reading the article. Almost sounds like you are a Big Pharma troll a little. THC is THC, and in similar manner, CBD is CBD. There are probably hundreds of varieties of plants in the Amazon rainforest that have great healing properties one way or another. But cannabis is probably one of the best for the northern or cooler climates. Nobody needs Big Pharma, and almost everyone would be better off without them. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The fact that I don't know everything about entropy doesn't have anything to do with it. Why not? Because nobody but nobody knows everything about entropy. The things that we DO know about entropy show that nothing that is complex comes from something less complex without the help of something that is more complex than both. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) BADecker, we had this discussion before and I explained in detail why entropy is not the same as complexity, and why what you just wrote is wrong. Should we have that discussion again, or just link to the relevant thread? You are so silly. For example, if I point out the sky to you, and then explain that the sky is blue, this doesn't mean that I am the sky, right? In a similar way entropy expresses basics about complexity. But that doesn't mean that entropy is complexity, right? But go ahead. Knock yourself out (Sean Connery said that in "Medicine Man"... the Knock yourself out, part). Explain some more that entropy isn't complexity if you like. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Your statement: "nothing that is complex comes from something less complex without the help of something that is more complex" is false. Do you have an example of things as you say? After all, you can see cause and effect all over the place. Certainly there is complexity all around us. Everything wears out and disperses and dissipates as entropy predicts. Takes two people to make a child - greater complexity making lesser complexity. People make cars - greater complexity making lesser complexity. What is your example regarding the reverse, lesser complexity making greater complexity? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The question isn't really about Trump being a Christian. The question is about whether or not the Pope and Papacy are Christian. The place in the Bible that the Roman Catholic Church uses as its excuse for the Papacy is Matthew 16:16-19: 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Looks like they might be right. But other people say that Jesus was referring to Peter only when Peter expressed Jesus salvation. Are they right when they say this? Might it be that Peter is not the first Pope after all? Look what happens directly after the above Bible quote. From Matthew 16:21-23: 21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
22 Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”
23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.” Now we see. The Papacy is based on Satan. The Pope is the anti-Christ that is predicted in several places in the New Testament, especially in the Revelation. There is more N.T. explanation the shows that this is so. Even the O.T. has some clarification in a few places showing this to be true. MakingMoneyHoney pointed out one time, the place that says that when the Pope comes in His own name, and claims to be from God, that this is the sign of the anti-Christ. Anyone who sets himself in the place of God is the anti-Christ. The Pope fits this description. But people always want a king other than God. In this case, their king, the Pope, is dragging them away from salvation. Trump's few mistakes here and there are nothing when compared with the lies of the Pope and Papacy. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Just a question: why is Hell (ruled by satan) a bad place? As Satan is opposed to god why would he torture the ones disobeying him?
Hell is not ruled by Satan. That's a misconception. Hell is the place of dissolution of all things therein. Satan will be dissolved in into his component "forces and energies" just like everything else therein, so God gets His energy back that He gave to those who are presently against God, during a time before they were against Him. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) So satan is not doing anything on earth? It means Satan is responsible for nothing! Well, Satan isn't ruling Heaven. So, since he isn't ruling Hell, and since he isn't ruling Heaven, what's left? However, people are responsible for much of what they do. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Does it have to be mentioned again that there is no measurable evidence for religion/God?
yes , there is no god no heaven no saving by jesus.. we are in the real world not in a delusional heaven.. Ok, and yet you ask of community to provide one for you. So what do you want to hear. Now let me tell you what I want to hear: Give me PROOF and EVIDENCE that atheism(which you are so eagerly preaching) is ACCURATE and CORRECT. Just ONE proof and i will be the first one to became a true atheist. Atheism is not a religion, or a claim... it is a rejection of your claim that God exists Christians made a claim... "God exists, and he is just like is says in this book here"... Atheists read the book, and dispute this claim for lack of foundation/evidence It's as simple as, " We don't believe you"... what is there to prove? When you compare what makes up an Atheist with what makes up religion, you can easily see that Atheism is a religion. It is entirely possible that you might not understand, like it is entirely possible that you would lie. Why do you keep calling me a liar? (Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor) Since you seem to think you know more about Atheism than the Atheists... Pray tell us, what makes up an Atheist? Well, I suppose I shouldn't say anything. But when you say you are not a liar, you are lying again, right? Since you are making a point of being a liar, what's wrong with my chiming in? After all, it's kinda nice to be able to agree with you in something. (Answered both questions, btw.) ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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The fact that I don't know everything about entropy doesn't have anything to do with it. Why not? Because nobody but nobody knows everything about entropy. The things that we DO know about entropy show that nothing that is complex comes from something less complex without the help of something that is more complex than both. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) BADecker, we had this discussion before and I explained in detail why entropy is not the same as complexity, and why what you just wrote is wrong. Should we have that discussion again, or just link to the relevant thread? You are so silly. For example, if I point out the sky to you, and then explain that the sky is blue, this doesn't mean that I am the sky, right? In a similar way entropy expresses basics about complexity. But that doesn't mean that entropy is complexity, right? But go ahead. Knock yourself out (Sean Connery said that in "Medicine Man"... the Knock yourself out, part). Explain some more that entropy isn't complexity if you like. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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You guys should check out the sumerian mythology/religion.
A lot of our world religions have their roots in their. Creation of the world and men, paradies, great flood and so on.
This is also no surprise because usually if a new dominant religion is emerging the old one will be partly assimilated to make the transition as smooth as possible.
The thing that brought Sumer and her contemporaries down is the fact that they had turned to believing in many false gods. This is the thing that got them destroyed by the One Great God in the Great Flood of Noah's day. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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Does it have to be mentioned again that there is no measurable evidence for religion/God?
yes , there is no god no heaven no saving by jesus.. we are in the real world not in a delusional heaven.. Ok, and yet you ask of community to provide one for you. So what do you want to hear. Now let me tell you what I want to hear: Give me PROOF and EVIDENCE that atheism(which you are so eagerly preaching) is ACCURATE and CORRECT. Just ONE proof and i will be the first one to became a true atheist. Atheism is not a religion, or a claim... it is a rejection of your claim that God exists Christians made a claim... "God exists, and he is just like is says in this book here"... Atheists read the book, and dispute this claim for lack of foundation/evidence It's as simple as, " We don't believe you"... what is there to prove? When you compare what makes up an atheist with what makes up religion, you can easily see that atheism is a religion. It is entirely possible that you might not understand, like it is entirely possible that you would lie. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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ok so god exist but we all have a different one and for some its many gods i think the most important thing is to always believe in something
Nice post by the way!!
Believing that God exists is a start towards truth. Recognizing the complexity of the universe as described by cause and effect, shows that God must be One. Why? Because the complexity is too great to have any disagreement whatsoever. Even if God happened to be a combination of many gods together, they would have to be One in mind and spirit to produce a universe in the complex way that ours has been produced. It's in the math, but it is difficult to calculate. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Just a question: why is Hell (ruled by satan) a bad place? As Satan is opposed to god why would he torture the ones disobeying him?
Hell is not ruled by Satan. That's a misconception. Hell is the place of dissolution of all things therein. Satan will be dissolved in into his component "forces and energies" just like everything else therein, so God gets His energy back that He gave to those who are presently against God, during a time before they were against Him. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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