nice to see a thread that is not related with corona  . what i thought is your topic related with it because you use the word help.  cryptos really need help because it seems like they are dying now but in terms of globalization , we are on that process  .

we are getting slowly on there most especially thesedays that people are crawling into cryptos and think that cryptos are like a safe haven for them because you know people are now avoiding the use of physical currencies and also the fact that cryptos are now cheap  .

prediction of op looks legit so yeah , his predictions can happen and its hard to accept it  .

most of us now are hoping for recovery and many threads released lately about hope and recovery of the price and then suddenly there are also this threads that tackles about more declines.  
i like it when you say we have experience this before and we have surived so how much more ?  this are the words that im also holding just to give me stregnth  or hope to continue hodling .  

thats funny but that is also possible but why virus is the only thing that they think of ? i mean they can still dump the price by selling huge amount of btc alone  . in that way the btc or crypto markets are the only one that are going to be affected not the entire wolrd or economy  .

this virus also dumps stocks and other markets harder , so how can you say that its created by btc whales ? it could also be created by stock market whales or whales of other sectors .

actually many factors are being considered or being connected with the drop of bitcoin not just stocks  but the one that people linked to it is said to be the corona pandemic and also the halving  . yeah you heard it right , halving is another reason of the drop . as much as people expected that the price will rise because of halving  , the price infact drop more because there are people selling too and they could be large group or whales  . add in the hacking and scamming that are happening on the crypto market    . the price can really go down even without the corona pandemic

let say the dump for example has a connection with corona virus  , i still dont believe that the virus is forever so the dump wont also be forever  but you said there is no relation with the virus and the dump , so that still means that the dump is not forever because this is not the first time that a dump happens  . its normal for cryptos to go down  and it does not matter if we are now on a long year on a long time but infact the drop will become harder the more people gets involved on cryptos because the more people also sells compare to before when few people are only involved on cryptos

this isnt normal to me if i were to ask for but this only happens once in a lifetime   . never see eth or any other cryptos drop this far and im almost hopeless but what can i do? my job is paying me cryptos so i have no choice but to remain hopeful that one day this bad tragedy will stop and all cryptos will return to normal fluctuations   , a normal dump is okay and acceptible by anyone  . like you guys i dont also have a cash right now but if ever i have i think i will not gonna invest anymore but i will buy basic needs because that is more important to do right now .

also venezuela too  . people are also encourage to not  depend on fiat not because of the virus because that was happening a long time ago  .

this is good because even thier governments doesnt want them to use physical fiat  . it was like they want thier people to use more digital currencies but didnt mean its already a crypto because there are also many digital currencies  and most of them were older enough than a crypto but cryptos do also have thier advantage which make them a choice for people who wanted to use digital curencies  .

lol it wont happen  . banks will never get closed but it will only get modernized , as you can see banks supports mobile and online platfroms now  but with the growing success of banks  , many payment method are also being introduced and one of it is bitcoin/crypto  . right now bitcoin is already popular too and will be more popular in the times like this when there is a problem on financial  as it acts as an alternative to banks or fiats  but no one predicted events like this could happen , so i believe that bitcoin isnt created for times like this  .

nice to know that non interested people on bitcoin are now realizing that they want to invest in bitcoin after seeing its price   .

i see nothing wrong on what he said or on his decisions and im fully supporting him  .  i hope many people or bitcoin haters are now going to do this too  . we can see that this panic/fomo trend can also do something good as some people are also being attracted suddenly on bitcoin  but i was also wishing that the price will now back to normal because the dip already lasted a long time  .

aside from this one i also heard other stories where corona was based on a book  , a really old book  .

  there was a part of it where wuhan area mentioned and a deadly monster , though it wasnt really desribe as a virus but who knows  ?  what if people really created this monster/virus but the damage isnt dealt only on that area  .  this viruse is too serious because it also damage the crypto market   .  hopefully itl vanish soon so that crypto and other markets can still return on thier normal state  

bitcoin is already recognized . being recognized because its being hated and being recognized because many people are talking about its benefits  . bitcoin can be used by all as long as its allowed on your region and not only trusted people can use it but as well as people that have bad intentions  . we must know if what kind of people we are transacting with because btc is risky not only by its unstable value but risky because once you sent it to wrong people , those people can dissapear and wont return your coin or there is no way to recover it by yourself  .

I don't think its scam because you said the  coin do still have a value and its listed  . for me scam means if the coins isn't listed at all or no value  but that coin can be classified as a pump and dump because you said the manipulation happens so fast   .

 and your begging for them to stop  ? there is no way that they will listen to you nor to us because this is the only way that they think they can earn fast and huge income . its not right but its up to them , the karma will only happen at some point of their lives  .

agreed on what the user you quoted said . this isn't totally corona that cause the value to plunge but corona is everywhere as you said so people only use that reason or blame it  . what is happening now  ? the price just crash , that's it  . crashing is not new on this space so we guys shouldn't act like we are shocked   . this isn't the end of the crypto phenomenon but this is another new beginning for us to accumulate  . I remember on the past many wishes that if they can only turn back the time where cryptos were cheap so now here it is   . I wonder where are those people now   ?

not everyone but most of them yes based on the percent of declines  .

I salute those people who decided to stay because they are wiling to take temporary loss  . there are those that care to buy because the prices of cryptos nowadays are so tempting that anyone cant resists tho the only problem is the cash because I know people also need some funds especially thesedays that markets are said to be closing temporarily   . bitcoin halving is also the event that everyone is still waiting for to see if it can really up the value despite of the damage that delt by the virus .

so you think that is bad when people use this opportunity to buy and hoard  ? its not actually bad but its benficial in crytpos because in that way the value can easily returned while it was bad to buy and hoard medical stuff and other basic needs because that will make you selfish because the stocks of those items easily goes down and as a result others cant avail  . this is the situation that are still happening   .  panic buying here and there   . this impact is huge on china but other countries slowly get infected too or got affected too  .

we should be thankful because we know that there are people that are far more concern than the government and other higher sectors  . another to be proud of is that the guy is said to be a bitcoiner  . we must try it but there are risk or harm on trying it because its a medicine that aren't regulated by a pharmacy or big medical groups  but still we must try rather than got killed without doing anything to fight the virus  . sure can do something like basic treatment but this isn't enough to kill a strong virus like this one that needs a specific formula  

what do you expect from them ? they are called haters because they hate it and they will just lie . for us lovers of bitcoin we know the truth . im also a bitcoin lover but to call bitcoin a safe haven for your money is not alright in me . btc is risky/unstable  thats why but if you mean safe heaven to avoid the risk of using a fiat/physical medium due to the virus infection that is happening right now then yes . we must use btc or even not btc but as long as we avoid any physical contact/touching for now to avoid the risk of infecting the deadly virus .

100 million plus infected what ? .  usa might be the btc capital but what about china ? china is also know as the supplier for btc mining equipment and also known for a big country  , most of these people also involved on btc.  to the question if how low btc will go ? i think this is the lowest point because i observed that the price are only recovering but there are times that it fell but it didnt fell hard anymore .

  this isnt looking good for a btc seller like me but this looks good for the whales and the people that are going to invest .

btc isnt only made at this time but btc is made long time ago and what do you mean made by ? to save us from hard crisis like this ?  still no .  let them if they sell because they are the ones that will loose and will left out nothing when the time the value recoveres and pump back again .

 china quaratined fiat is a crazy idea but this is also the reason on why no new monies enter on the crypto market resulting for the price to drop . btc can be used what you want . financial or for practical use , you name it .

the decline was big so i assume its cause by big people too like whales . small individuals can only have a small impact on the price .

what you felt thier is also normal . experienced and veteran cryptoers do also feel anxious because the crash was pretty huge and i think it was my first time to experience a crash like this from my 2 years of stay on crypto but im aware that crypto prices on the past have a small value smaller than what we have right now , i used it as a hope to not give up .