peeps, Your work on rating is an important one.
I do however see that there is room for improvement in the standards by which you rate the books -
the period of time being in business is important but consider this:
If one betting site has superior technology or more features it should be rated higher.
for example, xbet.io are in business for over a month now and they are using an escrow technology that makes them the most honest book in existance. even if they want to take money from their bettors they can't do it.
you are not even rating xbet.io which is a shame.
Thanks mybtclove. I'll look into them. Is anyone playing at xbet at this time? Need some more feedback. FYI Peeps xbet is plagued by shill accounts - check out his post history; there's about 3 of them (that I've seen) crawling around the forum, last time I checked out xbet their site was down so I couldn't test but I am pretty annoyed at the obvious shilling. Their World Cup markets are still up and they have literally 2 sports, looks like a one-man job. These kind of operations should have no place competing with the professional sportsbooks out there today. You make a good point in that these one man shops should not be rated with the professional shops. Players - Is anyone playing with BetVIP? They have met the time requirement for an upgrade but feedback is definitely wanted before making any upgrades. |
|
|
|
peeps, Your work on rating is an important one.
I do however see that there is room for improvement in the standards by which you rate the books -
the period of time being in business is important but consider this:
If one betting site has superior technology or more features it should be rated higher.
for example, xbet.io are in business for over a month now and they are using an escrow technology that makes them the most honest book in existance. even if they want to take money from their bettors they can't do it.
you are not even rating xbet.io which is a shame.
Thanks mybtclove. I'll look into them. Is anyone playing at xbet at this time? Need some more feedback. FYI Peeps xbet is plagued by shill accounts - check out his post history; there's about 3 of them (that I've seen) crawling around the forum, last time I checked out xbet their site was down so I couldn't test but I am pretty annoyed at the obvious shilling. Thank you. That's appreciated. |
|
|
|
peeps, Your work on rating is an important one.
I do however see that there is room for improvement in the standards by which you rate the books -
the period of time being in business is important but consider this:
If one betting site has superior technology or more features it should be rated higher.
for example, xbet.io are in business for over a month now and they are using an escrow technology that makes them the most honest book in existance. even if they want to take money from their bettors they can't do it.
you are not even rating xbet.io which is a shame.
Thanks mybtclove. I'll look into them. Is anyone playing at xbet at this time? Need some more feedback. |
|
|
|
I personally find DirectBet the best , as it is simple to just get payments to your address as soon as a bet is completed.
On the other hand , DirectBet should not try to change the ratings of Peeps Place.
The ratings are 100% controlled by one single person.
I have no idea on how much "posters rating" affects it , nor is any clear system given.
It could probably be that 1 million poster votes bumps your book by a grade.
Any book rating site that rates books upon the whims of one individual , while claiming to take ratings from everyone (with no proof of doing so) is useless.
This thread is much more than just ratings. Posters have helped a couple of players get paid as the dispute was brought to this thread. If any player has a problem they can also PM me and I will do what I can to help them get paid. |
|
|
|
|
Thanks for the input darkx3 and Tikk3r
|
|
|
|
You don't get an immediate confirmation if there is some type of delay with your wallet, the blockchain or DirectBet. It recently happened to me with a 7 minute wait. It happened to others too. This doesn't happen with any other book.
You can still get immediate confirmation. You have two options : 1) Use the official Bitcoin Core client instead of a 3rd party wallet. You will not encounter these delays when using the official wallet. Your bet will arrive and confirm instantly. 2) Make an advanced deposit first just like you do with other deposit books by using "Negotiate Odds" and setting the odds to 1000 decimal (unrealistic odds so that your bet will never confirm), then once your transfer is arrived you can get it confirmed instantly at the current odds whenever you like or withdraw it. Your wallet just had a 3 minute delay with a player. The wallet that we use may not be good enough. Your book is great for players that are unfunded elsewhere. I wouldn't recommend betting a substantial amount of money because of your software flaws. |
|
|
|
Directbet- Firm odds and negotiable odds aren't equivalent as you are saying.
If you select "Negotiate Odds" and set the minimum required odds to the current quoted odds, it is equivalent to "Firm Odds" and your bet will be confirmed at the current quoted odds or better, just like "Firm Odds" does. The only difference is that if by the time your transfer is received the odds reduces, "Firm Odds" will reject your bet immediately while "Negotiate Odds" will give you an option whether to cancel the bet or accept lower odds. You are the only book that can't guarantee an immediate confirmation. Bets may stay up for hours without the possibility of us canceling. That's not true. You can deposit first and get immediate confirmation just like you can in a regular deposit book. I'm afraid you did not understand how to do it. Please read it again and let me know if you need further clarifications : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7708830#msg7708830 You don't get an immediate confirmation if there is some type of delay with your wallet, the blockchain or DirectBet. It recently happened to me with a 7 minute wait. It happened to others too. This doesn't happen with any other book. |
|
|
|
|
The last book to ask posters for investments was Bit365. They went under. Bitcoinlivebets takes investments from posters.
|
|
|
|
Posted concerning bitcoinlivebets https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215014.1740Today Hi,
please check the following withdraws:
118589
118621
118647
118667
118846
118895
119081
119126
im still waiting a couple of days.
And please payback 10 % of the Wettschein ID 56183
best regards today Already the 11th of the month, no earnings posted for June? today No live bets tonight?
Why is that? July 2 All right, now that your site is ok, I would like to remind you that you would check
my two bet-slips (oh, there is one more, I just see):
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Wettschein ID 54935 - kombi - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:53:22 Uhr
Nächstes Tor Halbzeit Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich 1 2.15
Nächstes Tor Halbzeit Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich X 3.00
Wettschein ID 54934 - einzel - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:52:22 Uhr
Toranzahl over/under 2.5 Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich Under 1.85
Wettschein ID 54933 - einzel - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:51:49 Uhr
Toranzahl over/under 3.5 Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich Under 1.34
they maked it: 0:0
---------------------------------------------------------------------
And pls, settle this bet-slip from yesterday also:
Wettschein ID 55122 - kombi - abgegeben gestern, 15:25:28 Uhr
Sieg Woodlands Wellington - Young Lions - 63. Minute 0:1 2 1.80
Einsatz: 0,025000 BTC (Einsatz je Schein 0,025000 BTC), möglicher Gewinn: 0,045000 BTC
Young Lions have won: 1:3
thank you |
|
|
|
DirectBet- What you say are lies.
I only presents the facts. I invite everyone to read the archive of this thread and see for themselves : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6137493#msg6137493I honestly asked you why were we rated lower than Anonibet. You couldn't explain and a few hours later you changed the ratings criteria in order to downgrade us and shut us up. Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide.
Yes and # 3 in Ryan's list is bitcoinlivebets.com, not far behind Anonibet. You gave Anonibet A and bitcoinlivebets.com D- How do you explain such a big difference between your ratings and the users ratings ? There are two options : 1) The ratings in Ryan's thread is greatly influenced by shills accounts. OR 2) bitcoinlivebets.com didn't pay you so you rated them D- Which one is it ? I have nothing against Ryan or his ratings so I try to stay away of any criticism since it's nice to have multiple rating guides. bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case. |
|
|
|
|
Directbet- Firm odds and negotiable odds aren't equivalent as you are saying. Firm odds is how most sportsbooks work. Negotiable is the same as putting up an offer on an exchange. If I want negotiable odds then I'll go to an exchange where the hold is lower.
I don't want to guess on the odds that I'm getting or leave a bet up. The game changes and the odds should change along with it. Firm odds are the best with immediate confirmation or rejection. You are the only book that can't guarantee an immediate confirmation. Bets may stay up for hours without the possibility of us canceling.
|
|
|
|
|
Recommended books here are rated "B-" and above.
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)
|
|
|
|
DirectBet- What you say are lies. The criteria was changed because that's what the posters wanted. Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide. This rating guide says the same. All guides have Anonibet and Nitrogen at top. Ryan's ratings. 4.3 nitrogensports.eu
4.1 anonibet.com
3.8 bitcoinlivebets.com
3.8 casinobitco.in
3.5 jetwin.com
3.3 coindrafts.com
3.3 directbet.eu |
|
|
|
|
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)
"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
|
|
|
|
I want to bring this to the forum before making an upgrade. Betcoinsports now qualifies for a "B" rating since they opened in April of 2013. Betcoinsports was once rated "C+" but they were downgraded to "C" because of two hiccups. In both disputes the player and Betcoinsports posted their case in this thread. Posters agreed with the player in both instances and Betcoinsports paid the players.
Betcoinsports has now revamped their software. I personally feel that Betcoinsports should be upgraded to "B-". Is there anyone that feels the upgrade is unjustified?
No one seems to have a problem with the upgrade, Betcoinsports upgraded to "B-". |
|
|
|
|
DirectBet- You got mad because we took your banner down and then you started a smear campaign.
|
|
|
|
While not depositing has it's advantages, there are also downfalls. If there is any type of delay between the time money is sent and the time it hits DirectBet, the bet will remain open without the possibility of canceling the bet.
That's another false statement from Peeps Place.
As I've already explained to you in a previous post, you can cancel a bet in the rare event where the transfer is delayed and you are no longer interested in it.For more details : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7708830#msg7708830This is how books are rated: If we feel that a book is a top book, then we ask them to advertise. It only makes sense to have the top books as advertisers.
Here is the proof :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7714802#msg7714802It was only after we turned off your hustling attempts that you started discrediting us publicly.lies. 1. We took your banner down that was paying 1% and you got mad. We didn't want your money any longer because of your problems. 2. As far as I know firm bets cannot be canceled. Mine sat and I couldn't do a thing about it. |
|
|
|
|
Reagan is the owner at peepsplace.com that puts up the banners. Reagan is not going to ruin his reputation putting up a banner of a bad book. Peepsplace opened in 2003.
|
|
|
|
|
Books rated "A" and "B" are recommended. There are some "C+" books that are recommended but since they have not been in business for one year, their rating is capped at "C+".
My personal opinion of DirectBet is a "D". Poster backing of DirectBet bumped that to "C".
|
|
|
|
This is how books are rated: If we feel that a book is a top book, then we ask them to advertise. It only makes sense to have the top books as advertisers. Anonibet and Nitrogen are on the top of all rating's guides. These are the books that are asked to advertise. Reagan would never hurt his reputation by putting up a banner at peepsplace for a book that he felt was unsafe.
Once again, books do not pay for ratings here at bitcointalk. Books pay for banners at peepsplace where we try to convert new players from cash to bitcoin, promotional announcements in cash forums that have promotional sections, along with articles that are publicized in other media outlets. |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
