Directbet- Firm odds and negotiable odds aren't equivalent as you are saying.
If you select "Negotiate Odds" and set the minimum required odds to the current quoted odds, it is equivalent to "Firm Odds" and your bet will be confirmed at the current quoted odds or better, just like "Firm Odds" does. The only difference is that if by the time your transfer is received the odds reduces, "Firm Odds" will reject your bet immediately while "Negotiate Odds" will give you an option whether to cancel the bet or accept lower odds. You are the only book that can't guarantee an immediate confirmation. Bets may stay up for hours without the possibility of us canceling. That's not true. You can deposit first and get immediate confirmation just like you can in a regular deposit book. I'm afraid you did not understand how to do it. Please read it again and let me know if you need further clarifications : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7708830#msg7708830 You don't get an immediate confirmation if there is some type of delay with your wallet, the blockchain or DirectBet. It recently happened to me with a 7 minute wait. It happened to others too. This doesn't happen with any other book. |
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The last book to ask posters for investments was Bit365. They went under. Bitcoinlivebets takes investments from posters.
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Posted concerning bitcoinlivebets https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215014.1740Today Hi,
please check the following withdraws:
118589
118621
118647
118667
118846
118895
119081
119126
im still waiting a couple of days.
And please payback 10 % of the Wettschein ID 56183
best regards today Already the 11th of the month, no earnings posted for June? today No live bets tonight?
Why is that? July 2 All right, now that your site is ok, I would like to remind you that you would check
my two bet-slips (oh, there is one more, I just see):
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Wettschein ID 54935 - kombi - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:53:22 Uhr
Nächstes Tor Halbzeit Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich 1 2.15
Nächstes Tor Halbzeit Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich X 3.00
Wettschein ID 54934 - einzel - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:52:22 Uhr
Toranzahl over/under 2.5 Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich Under 1.85
Wettschein ID 54933 - einzel - abgegeben 29.06.2014, 21:51:49 Uhr
Toranzahl over/under 3.5 Alianza Lima - Juan Aurich Under 1.34
they maked it: 0:0
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And pls, settle this bet-slip from yesterday also:
Wettschein ID 55122 - kombi - abgegeben gestern, 15:25:28 Uhr
Sieg Woodlands Wellington - Young Lions - 63. Minute 0:1 2 1.80
Einsatz: 0,025000 BTC (Einsatz je Schein 0,025000 BTC), möglicher Gewinn: 0,045000 BTC
Young Lions have won: 1:3
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DirectBet- What you say are lies.
I only presents the facts. I invite everyone to read the archive of this thread and see for themselves : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6137493#msg6137493I honestly asked you why were we rated lower than Anonibet. You couldn't explain and a few hours later you changed the ratings criteria in order to downgrade us and shut us up. Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide.
Yes and # 3 in Ryan's list is bitcoinlivebets.com, not far behind Anonibet. You gave Anonibet A and bitcoinlivebets.com D- How do you explain such a big difference between your ratings and the users ratings ? There are two options : 1) The ratings in Ryan's thread is greatly influenced by shills accounts. OR 2) bitcoinlivebets.com didn't pay you so you rated them D- Which one is it ? I have nothing against Ryan or his ratings so I try to stay away of any criticism since it's nice to have multiple rating guides. bitcoinlivebets is a very shaky book. They have problems on almost a daily basis and automation is never fully working. Each person has different reasons for playing at a book. I think that bitcoinlivebets is at the top of the list of the next book to go under although I hope it's not the case. |
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Directbet- Firm odds and negotiable odds aren't equivalent as you are saying. Firm odds is how most sportsbooks work. Negotiable is the same as putting up an offer on an exchange. If I want negotiable odds then I'll go to an exchange where the hold is lower.
I don't want to guess on the odds that I'm getting or leave a bet up. The game changes and the odds should change along with it. Firm odds are the best with immediate confirmation or rejection. You are the only book that can't guarantee an immediate confirmation. Bets may stay up for hours without the possibility of us canceling.
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Recommended books here are rated "B-" and above.
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)
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DirectBet- What you say are lies. The criteria was changed because that's what the posters wanted. Anonibet and Nitrogen are 1 and 2 on Ryans guide. This rating guide says the same. All guides have Anonibet and Nitrogen at top. Ryan's ratings. 4.3 nitrogensports.eu
4.1 anonibet.com
3.8 bitcoinlivebets.com
3.8 casinobitco.in
3.5 jetwin.com
3.3 coindrafts.com
3.3 directbet.eu |
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"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)
"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
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I want to bring this to the forum before making an upgrade. Betcoinsports now qualifies for a "B" rating since they opened in April of 2013. Betcoinsports was once rated "C+" but they were downgraded to "C" because of two hiccups. In both disputes the player and Betcoinsports posted their case in this thread. Posters agreed with the player in both instances and Betcoinsports paid the players.
Betcoinsports has now revamped their software. I personally feel that Betcoinsports should be upgraded to "B-". Is there anyone that feels the upgrade is unjustified?
No one seems to have a problem with the upgrade, Betcoinsports upgraded to "B-". |
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DirectBet- You got mad because we took your banner down and then you started a smear campaign.
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While not depositing has it's advantages, there are also downfalls. If there is any type of delay between the time money is sent and the time it hits DirectBet, the bet will remain open without the possibility of canceling the bet.
That's another false statement from Peeps Place.
As I've already explained to you in a previous post, you can cancel a bet in the rare event where the transfer is delayed and you are no longer interested in it.For more details : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7708830#msg7708830This is how books are rated: If we feel that a book is a top book, then we ask them to advertise. It only makes sense to have the top books as advertisers.
Here is the proof :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.msg7714802#msg7714802It was only after we turned off your hustling attempts that you started discrediting us publicly.lies. 1. We took your banner down that was paying 1% and you got mad. We didn't want your money any longer because of your problems. 2. As far as I know firm bets cannot be canceled. Mine sat and I couldn't do a thing about it. |
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Reagan is the owner at peepsplace.com that puts up the banners. Reagan is not going to ruin his reputation putting up a banner of a bad book. Peepsplace opened in 2003.
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Books rated "A" and "B" are recommended. There are some "C+" books that are recommended but since they have not been in business for one year, their rating is capped at "C+".
My personal opinion of DirectBet is a "D". Poster backing of DirectBet bumped that to "C".
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This is how books are rated: If we feel that a book is a top book, then we ask them to advertise. It only makes sense to have the top books as advertisers. Anonibet and Nitrogen are on the top of all rating's guides. These are the books that are asked to advertise. Reagan would never hurt his reputation by putting up a banner at peepsplace for a book that he felt was unsafe.
Once again, books do not pay for ratings here at bitcointalk. Books pay for banners at peepsplace where we try to convert new players from cash to bitcoin, promotional announcements in cash forums that have promotional sections, along with articles that are publicized in other media outlets. |
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ts11111, we all are really tired of you. You have made 24 post the last few days in this topic saying only one thing.
If you really want to accuse Direct Bet, please do it in the 'scam accusations' board. Don't spam this topic. This topic isn't meant for that.
Btw, Direct Bet, I think you really need a self moderated topic if people like ts11111 continue.
i've reported him to moderators with the reason that he simply replies to this thread to discredit a legit company like DirectBet, but they've taken no action, I suggest you do the same. Honestly I have never seen a company which is willing to take all the blame and work to improve their website like Direct Bet. Most of the other crypto bookies require you to register so you can place bets, this alone should disqualify them from occupying a better spot in any rank made and also DB offers the most broad events for betting. Automatic payouts. As I said before, standard bookies would have sent this lammer ts111 a `freak off` letter and sent him home long time ago. While not depositing has it's advantages, there are also downfalls. If there is any type of delay between the time money is sent and the time it hits DirectBet, the bet will remain open without the possibility of canceling the bet. Bitcoinsports (Bit365) used the same format as DiretBet, no deposits, and they went under confiscating player's funds. DirectBet is very new with no book making experience. They may be the smallest shop as far as employees. It cannot be justified that there rating is higher than "C". There have been many books that have run away with player's money. "F" rated booksBetCas F Bitcoinsport F Coinbet F Sportbet.im F StakeBTC |
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In reply to DirectBet's poll that he has also made reference to in the ratings thread. My personal thoughts are different than the ratings generated at Bitcointalk. DirectBet- You just proved my point that what I write at Peeplsplace.com is my personal opinion. No one should play at your shop.
At Bitcointalk some posters like you so your rating is a "C". My personal opinion is "D". Posters drive ratings at bitcointalk.
You should NEVER post personal information including emails. Is there anything in my post at peepsplace that is untrue?
1. You are a 1 or 2 man shop
2. You have no previous bookmaking experience.
3. You will post private information including emails and betting history. |
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I am voting for nitrogensports they have great support and giveaway have been playing there for while .
thanks for the input. |
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DirectBet- You just proved my point that what I write at Peeplsplace.com is my personal opinion. No one should play at your shop.
At Bitcointalk some posters like you so your rating is a "C". My personal opinion is "D". Posters drive ratings at bitcointalk.
You should NEVER post personal information including emails. Is there anything in my post at peepsplace that is untrue?
1. You are a 1 or 2 man shop
2. You have no previous bookmaking experience.
3. You will post private information including emails and betting history.
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DirectBet- Your sole tactic is to denigrate competing sites along with rating guides where you are listed fairly low.
On another note, why do you keep posting emails or portions of emails of posters that disagree with you? ts11111 has a complaint and today you posted a portion of an email that he sent to you.
Posting private correspondence is something that you absolutely don't do as it is a breach of confidentiality. It's almost never done by the cash or bitcoin books. On the cash forums, books get slaughtered by posters for this breach.
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DirectBet- My personal opinion is that you should be rated much lower. I'd recommend that no one play for large amounts since their bet can hang in limbo for an hour. If the forum agrees with my personal opinion, then you would be downgraded instead of upgraded.
I'm not pushing for a downgrade since forum opinion is the driving force for the the ratings. At the same token, I don't see anyone calling for an upgrade and you are fairly low on all ratings sites.
You are not keeping up with the improvements of other books. While they are open to suggestions and are making improvements, you just put out fires with no improvements.
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