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3221  Other / Meta / Re: Can't send PMs? on: January 21, 2012, 10:39:32 PM
No, it works fine, I send PMs all the time.  There is a checkbox at the send pm's page to send yourself a copy.
3222  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Large walls moving on Gox Orderbook (Diagram) updated on: January 21, 2012, 10:26:33 PM
P.S. I think this thread belong to the speculation board.

It's not really about speculating, at least the OP isn't. 
3223  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is the Best Free Dvd Burning Software? on: January 21, 2012, 08:09:34 PM
ImgBurn

Thirded, came to mind instantly and came to post it. 
3224  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We’ve won for now -- SOPA and PIPA were dropped by Congress on: January 20, 2012, 07:16:32 PM
Awesome, now the wait for POPA, or SIPA. 

Sweet. But I'm still cutting my consumption of proprietary music and movies by %50. It's not like Hollywood produces much worth stealing anyway.

The stuff I get I never would have bought anyway. 
3225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Independent physical bitcoin to trade alongside digital bitcoin? on: January 20, 2012, 01:15:31 PM
You could call it a poker chip , coin , round , madallion. It's not designed to compete in any way with bitcoin , its a physical version of bitcoin , a seperate entity the only thing that it would share with bitcoin is the price and quantity.

The initial distribution of these from the mint wouldn't be set at the price of bitcoin rather the cost of the copper plus production Sub $1.00 each



So it's just a coin that says bitcoin on it, but it doesn't have anything to do with bitcoin but the name?  What's the point?  Why would someone buy it?  What's the target audience, and the intended use?  Just asking for clarification cause either I don't get it (entirely possible), or this is just not a good idea. 
3226  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Uploaded.to Accepts BTC As Payment (think Rapidshare, Megaupload) on: January 20, 2012, 07:41:40 AM
Stick with Usenet.
3227  Other / Off-topic / Re: password programs on: January 20, 2012, 07:39:07 AM
security is not an issue

its for work...and i work from home,i must log in throught the vpn, then the hassles begin, change your password, not long enough 1 cap please, one number, one symbol, this was has been used in the last 5000 passwords, this one is too long, too short, fuck...they make it soooo complicated i cant even get in...

And this is why password rules exist in the first place  Wink

http://keepass.info/news/n120105_2.18.html

Keepass is nice, one password accesses an encrypted password file with all your usernames/passwords and even has autotype.  Never used Lastpass but it sounds similar. 
3228  Other / Off-topic / Re: Thumbs up to Wikipedia supporting SOPA on: January 19, 2012, 03:35:29 PM
I don't think they support SOPA... Wink

Good catch, theymos! Therefore, the tilted of this title is a failed.


When it rains it pours. 
3229  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the Bitcoin Community Under Attack? on: January 18, 2012, 12:46:57 PM
SSL is not the be all and end all. Handshakes can be captured and faked quite easily. Spoofing mac addresses is also very easy.

3230  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: January 16, 2012, 03:28:23 PM
Can you ridiculous autistics stop complaining about the ip address being wrong?  That's the kind of shit that causes SA to create a 600 page thread about you.  

It's kinda funny, I saw the complaints about that before I saw the show, so I wouldn't have noticed otherwise. But after he says the IP address, which admittedly is something weird like 187.32.4 she just stares at him (rewatching it, she's looking over his shoulder) so I was half expecting her to berate him for a bunk IP.  But she just said "Oh I know that IP!"

Edit:
Oh found it on youtube (clip of IP address part)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QObtw7uAb4I
3231  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked with Amazon Live Support today... on: January 16, 2012, 03:17:28 PM
It wouldn't just be Amazon though, if they got onboard everybody would. You'd have banks begging to work with the exchanges, of which better ones would have sprung up overnight. That right there would solve the majority of the problems.

Yes eventually but Amazon would be taking the first mover risk.  Look I am not a Bitcoin bear I just think given current liquidity thinking Amazon would adopt it today is naive.  They aren't interested in exposing themselves or their customers to volatility. 

IMHO the market depth isn't there and Amazon even IF interested won't move until it is.  This is the same reason a major hedge fund won't get involved in Bitcoin.  The market depth doesn't support operations at the level they would be interested in.

Still it isn't doom & gloom.  Market depth is growing and is more than sufficient for players with smaller volume (by higher than current volume).  In time it will be large enough that Amazon can drop a day's "take" without causing more than a ripple.

Yeah, the "what if?" game is fun though. 
3232  Economy / Speculation / Re: Amazon will be accepting bitcoin on: January 16, 2012, 03:09:15 PM
More likely the support guy was already annoyed at all the personal questions cause it messes with his queue times, and just wanted him to be happy and go away. 

Why it does not surprise me to read treads like this on this forum?

I blame the education system personally, it just doesn't give provide a good enough start.     
3233  Economy / Speculation / Re: Amazon will be accepting bitcoin on: January 16, 2012, 02:54:36 PM
More likely the support guy was already annoyed at all the personal questions cause it messes with his queue times, and just wanted him to be happy and go away. 
3234  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked with Amazon Live Support today... on: January 16, 2012, 02:52:14 PM
It's not too soon for bitcoin

IMHO it is too soon for Bitcoin.  It is unlikely Amazon shareholders would be happy with "currency risk" associated w/ Bitcoin so any integration would likely be a bitpay like internal system.  

The problem is the market doesn't have sufficient depth to handle even a tiny fraction of Amazon volume.  If Amazon needs to liquidate 10K BTC per day the market couldn't handle it.  

Someday it could.  Someday we will reach a point where 10K buy or sell doesn't even move the bid/ask but we aren't there yet.  



But for Amazon to reach the point where they need to liquidate 10K BTC per day the economy would have to grow significantly from what it is right now in the first place meaning that they *would* probably be able to liquidate 10K BTC per day because there would be that much demand to purchase BTC.

Agreed, people had to buy acquire the 10k btc per day in the first place. Volume shouldn't really be a problem.  

Well that isn't completely true.  There is significant held "wealth" which is held because there is no way to liquidate that without causing dislocations in the market.  Amazon (given they sell essentially everything) would provide a "way out".  

Also even if 10K BTC bought = 10K BTC sold the market doesn't have enough depth to handle that kind of volume.  There is lag between the buy -> amazon -> sell cycle and that is going to cause increased intra-day volatility.  

I am just pointing out even IF Bitcoin is on Amazon "to do" list they will be looking for more market depth.  They likely would even test the market by buying 10K coins and selling 10K coins and seeing how the market absorbs that.  A company as smart as Amazon likely go even further and hire an outside analyst to perform market depth research over an extended period of time before exposing themselves to that volatility.

TL/DR greater market depth and liquidity increases the chance of adoption for a major player.  The good news is market depth and liquidity will continue to grow building upon itself as long as Bitcoin maintains momentum.


It wouldn't just be Amazon though, if they got onboard everybody would. You'd have banks begging to work with the exchanges, of which better ones would have sprung up overnight. That right there would solve the majority of the problems.
3235  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked with Amazon Live Support today... on: January 16, 2012, 02:34:41 PM
It's not too soon for bitcoin

IMHO it is too soon for Bitcoin.  It is unlikely Amazon shareholders would be happy with "currency risk" associated w/ Bitcoin so any integration would likely be a bitpay like internal system. 

The problem is the market doesn't have sufficient depth to handle even a tiny fraction of Amazon volume.  If Amazon needs to liquidate 10K BTC per day the market couldn't handle it. 

Someday it could.  Someday we will reach a point where 10K buy or sell doesn't even move the bid/ask but we aren't there yet. 



But for Amazon to reach the point where they need to liquidate 10K BTC per day the economy would have to grow significantly from what it is right now in the first place meaning that they *would* probably be able to liquidate 10K BTC per day because there would be that much demand to purchase BTC.

Agreed, people had to buy acquire the 10k btc per day in the first place. Volume shouldn't really be a problem.  
3236  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY! on: January 16, 2012, 12:33:09 AM
I'm outta here!

3237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll :: Which star sign likes BTC most/least on: January 15, 2012, 10:33:44 PM
If it got that bad, or there were lots of threads like it, then sure some lines would have to be drawn as to what exactly is relevant to speculating, but since it hasn't happened yet there's no need to make a big deal out of it.  
3238  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's looking a bit bearish right now on: January 15, 2012, 10:31:30 PM
How can anyone possibly say this looks bearish?
https://i.imgur.com/9QDVD.png


3239  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll :: Which star sign likes BTC most/least on: January 15, 2012, 10:10:25 PM
Astrology is insanity, and this is not the right forum for it.

Please move this superstitious nonsense to "Off-Topic".

Sure Astrology is bunk, but not necessary to move it, unless we are going to move all the threads about elliot waves, and whatever else people are on about these days  Wink
3240  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Looking for FG on: January 15, 2012, 10:04:35 PM
It's a fairly popular currency that came about to support the economy in Diablo 2, run/issued/controlled by a single site called d2jsp.

I feel like such a nerd for knowing this. Ah to be back in school staying up late running trains on Mephisto.  
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