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3241  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 19, 2010, 12:53:54 PM
Hey slush, that's exactly what I get in my logs?

Problem we are discussing by PMs are different. Sometimes your gpu1 flooded server with incorrect hashes. Many attemps per second. This is different.
3242  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 19, 2010, 12:11:25 PM
New rewards sent.

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2010-12-19 13:00:16.311204
Send 16.27 to 18S4ui2V4kW43Rf1f6YaWL25oTiVkRsoNF
Send 10.36 to 124TQXntz7akAYCrUxDjLuVg7fLGTJqcgt
Send 10.05 to 1B7SvpLs2bmB8mGX2Bqdqn8UToTB1qgwUd
Send 5.1 to 1Eo51LLvhkJhxGR6oga1QkNV9a1KJsbrF7
Send 3.81 to 1P83a5bNdzDpYPxFgxf9XJJ5ET9e1k7m58
Send 3.8 to 1JdEn5LeMREmAjcAi4KWf8EX6zkubqGn55
Send 0.3 to 18cBAgYzcm9jLkSqAp2aAgWsFgeYgaTmu2
Send 0.29 to 1BwChPMbCE5d9pmQnDKCDrHt1FJjfkMsf9
Send 0.02 to 1JQJXeiJR4KUC63hUKysG1YyxKNGzaXBvF
Initial balance: 50.0, sent total 50.0 for 9 people, time 14. sec

My today's goal is remake of sending rewards to be absolutely fair - will send rewards only for confirmed blocks.
3243  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New demonstration CPU miner available on: December 19, 2010, 12:04:56 PM
I made an infinite loop but it might be a good idea to set up a retry counter.
Code:
             val = json_rpc_call(rpc_url, userpass, rpc_req);
             if (!val) {
                           fprintf(stderr, "json_rpc_call failed. sleeping 60s\n");
                           sleep(60);
                          }

I'm not so familiar with miner sources, but don't forget server can sometimes return 'false' when PoW not meet server's target. Doesn't your patch deadlock script for ages in this case?
3244  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 19, 2010, 11:50:52 AM
I've participated in about the last 4 or 5 blocks and still haven't been paid anything. My reward is now 1.07571237 but you still haven't sent anything to my bitcoin address.

You are right, this is the bad effects of current rewarding. So I work on system upgrade right now with high priority. Don't worry, your reward is definitely not lost. New version of rewarding script will sent only rewards from already confirmed blocks, so no problems like your anymore.
3245  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 19, 2010, 11:29:53 AM
I get this error from time to time: "invalid or stale", why?Smiley
Cya

How often do you get those messages? Those are probably server restarts, so it should be really few times per day. I'm sorry for that. If it is more often, please tell me.

Btw I will work on application fail-over configuration today to avoid this. But it will require many restarts. So we will see how m0mchil fix his miner Wink. For others using older version, please update, otherwise you will have to set up your workers again and again.
3246  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 19, 2010, 12:34:51 AM
Has anyone successfully built a remote miner on Debian Lenny? 
This debian-packaged cpu-miner may be (i don't test) used with Slush's server: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2207.0

AFAIK there is newer version which have better performance. But did not tested, just saw some rummors on irc
3247  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 18, 2010, 11:55:20 PM
I set my threshold to 0.01 and my reward is 0.55 but I don't think its sending it to me. Maybe it doesn't work below 1?

Everything is OK, this is just way how sending script works. I will try to explain:

Any specific amount of reward itself is not bound to block in any way. When block is found, reward for shares is added to user's account. So you see reward on profile, but block which you participated is not yet mature enough. So when sending script is triggered, he don't take care to blocks, but only rewards. As you see, two blocks matured before few hours and script really sent 100 BTC out. It just mix the sending order a little bit. Otherwise the threshold feature will not be possible.

This have only once consequence - in very rare case the block is rejected by network for some reason. As ArtForz tols me, it is 0.0something% of cases. So I have in short-term TODO to add rewards after at least few confirmations, not instantly.
3248  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 18, 2010, 11:10:01 PM
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2010-12-19 00:02:26.317073
Testnet: False
Send 40.89 to 1B7SvpLs2bmB8mGX2Bqdqn8UToTB1qgwUd
Send 21.23 to 1DadexpocrxNotYQFFtGxCbeHN8fVECuxB
Send 13.89 to 1DXsKabUusmayN4e8PjdMx2JQgrk9mdRer
Send 8.91 to 1A6ru2AYP9gMBpMEw63fwLqXNJ75efaBiY
Send 8.49 to 1JdEn5LeMREmAjcAi4KWf8EX6zkubqGn55
Send 6.34 to 1N2RqrCuyxMizkdVfGf2c7xpQSdiw5ZUm
Send 0.13 to 17t1A11S6s3sRj1bSNL1NcsWGnZJhuGBzg
Send 0.1 to 1Nmywv3nDAp7M43cSYV3CEoQMLy4t6VGW3
Send 0.02 to 1Ghy36oVwnBz5VPVAdKa2jukW4tTPtKYPn
Initial balance: 100.0, sent total 100.0 for 9 people, time 0.7 sec

next round sent!  

I just ran my account for 2 days with no bitcoin address filled into my profile.  will i still receive coins for that time?

of course, fill a wallet address and wait until script will trigger you Smiley
3249  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 18, 2010, 10:31:21 PM
Hi, I just find a security issue and stop the server for the moment. I'm very sorry, we will be back in the moment! fixed, back again!
3250  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 18, 2010, 10:12:56 PM
i made an account like 4 hours ago no email yet?

Today I had troubles with mails, but at time of your registration was everything perfect - people registered few minutes before and after you are active. And no mail in queue.

Nevermind. Maybe spam issue. I activated your account.
3251  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 18, 2010, 09:46:41 PM
Little question, is it by design that i have to go through the login step each time i want to check on my shares ?

If you mean there is only 'login' link, it mean I just forgot to add 'show profile' button :-). You can bookmark http://mining.bitcoin.cz/accounts/profile/, site keeps you logged in for long time.

If you mean that list of workers and it's shares is not public: I'm not sure if people will like this feature globally. Maybe I can make public list of active workers if it's owner will allow this in profile settings.
3252  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Comparison of GPU's on: December 18, 2010, 08:48:07 PM
lot of people get interrested in the first place because of the mining

I don't think so. Personally I'm mining alone far around. And I started after few months after I found beauty of bitcoin. Most people I have talked were interested more in economy and stuff around and I'm excited how many people get the basic idea. We definitely need more real merchants and services accepting bitcoins to break our image as hash crunching idiots :-). So I'm looking for pizza4btc stuff a lot Smiley.
3253  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 18, 2010, 08:32:48 PM
Radeon back in the pool =)

zoooo  Cheesy So we probably cross 3000mhash barrier soon!
3254  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 18, 2010, 06:35:47 PM
The pool has been running for over 90 hours now, found 5 blocks in that time with a speed of well over 2000 Mhash, sometimes getting close to 3000! At this rate the average time to find a block is 4-5 hours.
With this in mind i was suprised to see the pool so far has an average time of over 18 hours to find a block.

Maybe it's too early to determine a true average on this 'short' runtime, but the difference is prety big. Is there a reason for this? (except for randomness)

I know everybody is interested in this question, but come on, this is not fair.

a) Mining is absolutely about luck and statistics. There is nothing as "a right to mine block every 5 hours". Ask ArtForz for his experiences in mining; it is never to be exact.
b) You cannot make statistics on population of 5 blocks. Forgot to block calculator statistics, when you have 5 blocks.  Why are you embarassed for slightly longer time on two blocks (namely 98135 and 98238) and you did not post happy message when we found block 98139 after 30 minutes (!!) of mining?
c) Pool was near 3000mhashes/s (exactly 28xx) for maybe one hour (davout then disconnected his 5970). I mined first block almost alone with my card and we step over 2000mhash before few hours. Take a calculator and practice how counting with average works. It is definitely not near 5 hours to block in long term average yet. Currently we are near 6 hours if we started with 2300mhash/s on beginning!

So take a seat, keep calm and let's wait to another block :-).
3255  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Comparison of GPU's on: December 18, 2010, 06:08:33 PM
Of course, if the price of bitcoins rises enough, the economics of generation changes completely.

Does anybody have an idea what happen when even strong GPUs won't be profitable? I'm affraid of monopoly of few entities with extremely large processing power. Not because they will accumulate bitcoins, but because of possible fragility of network itself. It should remain p2p somehow.

Maybe pools are solution, because pool admin does not own processing power and no one entity can turn to monopoly. Still users own the power, they temporary
lend it to pool and can everytime connect to another entity when they don't like pool politics. Or can start mining back standalone.
3256  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Comparison of GPU's on: December 18, 2010, 03:45:04 PM
accumulating so much computational power in one place strikes me as insecure

+1
3257  Economy / Marketplace / Re: EU network of BTC exchangers on: December 18, 2010, 03:25:49 PM
Primary I want to trade BTC/CZK in Czech Republic to spread Bitcoin locally, but I think abroad connection to other sellers can be handy. For example when I will need to buy another bunch of bitcoins to sell them for CZK here.
3258  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>2000Mhash/s, join us!) on: December 18, 2010, 01:27:48 PM
I tried to register for the service, however it threw an "unhandled exception" for all three acceptable permutations of my username (DerrikeG, Derrike, Derrike_G) after clicking "Register". I cannot use any of those accounts to login and join the network.

There are problem with mailing server, email confirmation hang. Your account DerrikeG was activated manually, I'm working on mailing bug now. Solved. Did not affect mining in any way.
3259  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Comparison of GPU's on: December 18, 2010, 01:07:24 PM

It's been quite some time that I've been wondering whether I dare to tip my toes into GPU mining. But since I only have my working notebook I'd have to buy a dedicated mining rig for it. So just to get an idea about what size of an investment that would be I wanted to ask you what performances can be expected from the various GPU's. To be fair please add the miner you're using on it, as to avoid flaming about which miner is better.

Don't expect you will get rich. If you want to make money, do something else. I bought 5970 + separate (poor, singlecore) machine before 14 days and from first calculation, my 500$ will be back _maybe_ after 5 months. Completely pointless, until you do not consider that as interesting hobby. Difficulty is going up very quickly (it was also original idea behind my mining service - found as much blocks as possible before difficulty will be higher again :-).

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I've heard a value of 625Mhash/s floating around for an ATI Radeon HD5970, is that realistic? Maybe I'll create a comparison matrix from the collected values ^^
So let's get started: what are you getting?

I have stable ~580Mhash/s and it can go little better (was over 620 when I tried that), but I don't want to overclock it so far for common mining. I live in flat and decibels and celsiuses are not my friends.

You already know it, following lines I'm writing for newcomers:

Bitcoin is NOT about mining. Bitcoin is about economy. Consider us as freaky geeks which sometimes do something for fun. Dont boycott Bitcoin just because you think we are all speculators. Personally I would be more rich when I spend my time in my job than playing with bitcoin.
3260  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: OpenCL miner for the masses on: December 18, 2010, 12:46:15 PM
Hey momchil, i'm getting loads of these while running your latest git code, weird thing is that I'm getting these messages on only one of the two cores of my 5970, I don't really know what it means, should I downclock it a bit ?

Code:
16/12/2010 23:57, 1a8eed81, invalid or stale
16/12/2010 23:57, 68c13670, invalid or stale
16/12/2010 23:59, 910435fc, invalid or stale
290592 khash/s

Oh! It is exactly what I reported you! I find in server logs that one of your miner is sending corrupted results. Only one, second one is OK. Please try to downclock it a bit.
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