ts11111, we all are really tired of you. You have made 24 post the last few days in this topic saying only one thing.
If you really want to accuse Direct Bet, please do it in the 'scam accusations' board. Don't spam this topic. This topic isn't meant for that.
Btw, Direct Bet, I think you really need a self moderated topic if people like ts11111 continue.
i've reported him to moderators with the reason that he simply replies to this thread to discredit a legit company like DirectBet, but they've taken no action, I suggest you do the same. Honestly I have never seen a company which is willing to take all the blame and work to improve their website like Direct Bet. Most of the other crypto bookies require you to register so you can place bets, this alone should disqualify them from occupying a better spot in any rank made and also DB offers the most broad events for betting. Automatic payouts. As I said before, standard bookies would have sent this lammer ts111 a `freak off` letter and sent him home long time ago. While not depositing has it's advantages, there are also downfalls. If there is any type of delay between the time money is sent and the time it hits DirectBet, the bet will remain open without the possibility of canceling the bet. Bitcoinsports (Bit365) used the same format as DiretBet, no deposits, and they went under confiscating player's funds. DirectBet is very new with no book making experience. They may be the smallest shop as far as employees. It cannot be justified that there rating is higher than "C". There have been many books that have run away with player's money. "F" rated booksBetCas F Bitcoinsport F Coinbet F Sportbet.im F StakeBTC |
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In reply to DirectBet's poll that he has also made reference to in the ratings thread. My personal thoughts are different than the ratings generated at Bitcointalk. DirectBet- You just proved my point that what I write at Peeplsplace.com is my personal opinion. No one should play at your shop.
At Bitcointalk some posters like you so your rating is a "C". My personal opinion is "D". Posters drive ratings at bitcointalk.
You should NEVER post personal information including emails. Is there anything in my post at peepsplace that is untrue?
1. You are a 1 or 2 man shop
2. You have no previous bookmaking experience.
3. You will post private information including emails and betting history. |
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I am voting for nitrogensports they have great support and giveaway have been playing there for while .
thanks for the input. |
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DirectBet- You just proved my point that what I write at Peeplsplace.com is my personal opinion. No one should play at your shop.
At Bitcointalk some posters like you so your rating is a "C". My personal opinion is "D". Posters drive ratings at bitcointalk.
You should NEVER post personal information including emails. Is there anything in my post at peepsplace that is untrue?
1. You are a 1 or 2 man shop
2. You have no previous bookmaking experience.
3. You will post private information including emails and betting history.
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DirectBet- Your sole tactic is to denigrate competing sites along with rating guides where you are listed fairly low.
On another note, why do you keep posting emails or portions of emails of posters that disagree with you? ts11111 has a complaint and today you posted a portion of an email that he sent to you.
Posting private correspondence is something that you absolutely don't do as it is a breach of confidentiality. It's almost never done by the cash or bitcoin books. On the cash forums, books get slaughtered by posters for this breach.
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DirectBet- My personal opinion is that you should be rated much lower. I'd recommend that no one play for large amounts since their bet can hang in limbo for an hour. If the forum agrees with my personal opinion, then you would be downgraded instead of upgraded.
I'm not pushing for a downgrade since forum opinion is the driving force for the the ratings. At the same token, I don't see anyone calling for an upgrade and you are fairly low on all ratings sites.
You are not keeping up with the improvements of other books. While they are open to suggestions and are making improvements, you just put out fires with no improvements.
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I want to bring this to the forum before making an upgrade. Betcoinsports now qualifies for a "B" rating since they opened in April of 2013. Betcoinsports was once rated "C+" but they were downgraded to "C" because of two hiccups. In both disputes the player and Betcoinsports posted their case in this thread. Posters agreed with the player in both instances and Betcoinsports paid the players.
Betcoinsports has now revamped their software. I personally feel that Betcoinsports should be upgraded to "B-". Is there anyone that feels the upgrade is unjustified?
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Example for DirectBet. Caution is Advised As New Ratings for Bitcoin Sportsbooks are Released
June 29, 2014Angela Burrows
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As the World Cup knock-out round continues, gamblers are advised to be careful when it comes to choosing sportsbooks that use bitcoins. The anonymity that makes bitcoin so attractive to sports bettors also carries a risk; sportsbooks can easily vanish overnight and take its deposits with them. Peeps Place, the gold standard when it comes to rating bitcoin sportsbooks, says this is a dangerous point of time for sports bettors.
The World Cup is the most popular time for hit and run books. After that its the Super Bowl. Im not saying that the new kids on the block are necessarily bad books, says the poster Peeps Place at Bitcointalk.org. The odds say that some will be out of business shortly after the World Cup walking off with funds. This is not the time to test out new books.
Anonibet, the oldest and most reputable of bitcoin books, keeps improving its game and maintains its A rating. Anonibet is now adding more betting options for Americans, including competitive lines for baseball and the WNBA. They recently became a Gold Member of the Bitcoin Foundation, a further sign that Anonibet is focusing on the long-term when it comes to the sportsbook business. Anonibet is celebrating the World Cup by offering a 22 bitcoin contest for its customers.
NitrogenSports remains the sole B rated book. Like Anonibet, Nitrogen is running a huge bitcoin contest for the World Cup, giving away 20 bitcoins over the duration of the tournament.
Casinobitco.in remains at C+ but may soon be joining Nitrogen Sports in the B category. A solid book since opening business in June 2013, the Panama-based Casinobitco.com offers competitive prices with a focus on American sports.
Complete ratings from Peeps Place:
A rated books
Anonibet A (in business since 2011)
Brated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
C rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Betcoinsports C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014)
Bitbm C- (2013)
D rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)
F rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC http://news.rouletters.com/caution-is-advised-as-new-ratings-for-bitcoin-sportsbooks-are-released-0002339.html |
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Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have good sized staffs.
You ignored my question. I will ask it again : How do you know how many employees Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have ? Have you met them in person to verify that ? People here are following your advices and ratings and so you should be responsible and back up your claims.If Anonibet needs extra man power to process manual withdrawals, manage risk and set up lines (as you claimed in an earlier post), while we have invested in a state of the art proprietary software that does that automatically with 0 employees, do we need to get discredit for that ? Since Peeps failed to reply, we have to assume that he does not know how many employees Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have. That didn't stop him from claiming that "Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have good sized staffs.". This is yet another false and misleading information from Peeps in an attempt to lure his followers to bet on the Bitcoin Sportsbooks that pay him to advertise and promote them in forums. I feel that I have a good idea of the size of the staffs of the top 3 books. That information was given privately. I can't guarantee that the information that I have is correct but all three of the top books have been completely honest with me in all other areas so there is a trust that has not been broken to date. You have been untruthful many times. In your post above you claim that Casinobitcoin pays me. Casinobitcoin does not pay me individually or peepsplace.com. They don't pay flat fees and they aren't affiliates. Ratings aren't bought. Advertising dollars are spent to convert cash players to bitcoin players. We are also open to interviews. Our articles are published and hit the top of google news. I send the links to the advertisers so that they know where their advertising dollars are going. . |
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I've been using Casinobitco.in and Betcoin and can recommend both books. I tend to use Casinobitco.in more for sports since they have better odds, but I have placed quite a few bets at Betcoin and while I've had some minor issues with them their support is very responsive here in the forum and through email.
Both books offer contests but I believe only Betcoin offers a signup bonus, but that signup bonus has to be wagered in their casino (slots) and there is a rollover req. Betcoin also has a lot of promotions for their poker room and you can seamlessly use your chips for either the sportsbook, casino, or poker room. if you have no interest in poker or the casino I would go with Casinobitco.in for the better odds.
Thanks for the input. Good information. |
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Betcoin just made a nice improvement. When changes occur in a line it will blink red or green and refresh automatically every 5 seconds. In the live section there is constant line movement.
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Posters, any input for moneyt's question? Books, now's a time to make a pitch.
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Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have good sized staffs.
You ignored my question. I will ask it again : How do you know how many employees Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have ? Have you met them in person to verify that ? People here are following your advices and ratings and so you should be responsible and back up your claims.If Anonibet needs extra man power to process manual withdrawals, manage risk and set up lines (as you claimed in an earlier post), while we have invested in a state of the art proprietary software that does that automatically with 0 employees, do we need to get discredit for that ? DirectBet- You are very dishonest and I don't trust you at all. You will post any confidential information that you have on a player if the player disagrees with you. I've never seen another sportsbook post emails or player's wagers without approval of the player. Many of your posts are blatant lies or distortions. I'd appreciate if we can take further arguments to your thread. This thread is not for one book to bash another book. Let the posters discredit books if they feel the need. |
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DirectBet- You are very dishonest and I don't trust you at all. You will post any confidential information that you have on a player if the player disagrees with you. I've never seen another sportsbook post emails or player's wagers without approval of the player. Many of your posts are blatant lies or distortions.
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Casinobitcoin raised from C+ to B-.
Casinobitcoin had the top rating for a book in business less than 1 year. Casinobitcoin has now met the criteria for an upgrade. the next 6 months to build the largest and best Bitcoin Gaming network around.
We wouldn't have said anything about this upgrade, but since CasinoBitco.in came to advertise themselves and brag about this upgrade in our own thread, we were left with no choice but to respond. CasinoBitco.in raises funds on Havelock Investments for their operations and as such are required to publish their earning reports. https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reports.phpIf you sum up their Sportsbook earnings since they started reporting on September 2013, you will see that they lost approx. 70 BTC to date, and that's just from bets, before you factor in operational expenses. Perhaps Peeps Place can explain why he is upgrading a Sportsbook that lost money from bets since its inception ?
Are you feeling confident depositing Bitcoins to a Sportsbook that is losing money  Read their June report. Yes I read the reports and yes they earned in June, but you are misleading your followers by publishing incomplete information. Overall since inception their Sportsbook lost 70 BTC, and that number is much higher once you add up the operational expenses and salaries, especially if they have many employees as you claim.
Please explain why you are upgrading the rating of a Sportsbook that lost money from bets since its inception ?
Are you feeling confident depositing Bitcoins to a Sportsbook that is losing money Casinobitcoin was able to survive early losses. That's a great sign for a sportsbook as well as any other business. Many businesses aren't able to survive early losses and go under. |
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June expenses include the following (further breakout is later in this document, as well
as full P&L located in the appendix)
1.09 BTC on advertising
6.3 BTC on player comps
14.3538 BTC on contractor development including spending on improved security measures
1.91 BTC in hosting expenses
1 BTC in Havelock expenses
5.3364 BTC in other expenses including our 3rd party bookmaker and seo costs.
For a total: 29.9961 BTC in expenses.
The remaining earnings of 22.7139 will be paid out in a dividend of 76 satoshi per Havelock unit. |
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Hi CBCT. Upgrade was done a while ago.
We wouldn't have said anything about this upgrade, but since CasinoBitco.in came to advertise themselves and brag about this upgrade in our own thread, we were left with no choice but to respond. CasinoBitco.in raises funds on Havelock Investments for their operations and as such are required to publish their earning reports. https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reports.phpIf you sum up their Sportsbook earnings since they started reporting on September 2013, you will see that they lost approx. 70 BTC to date, and that's just from bets, before you factor in operational expenses. Perhaps Peeps Place can explain why he is upgrading a Sportsbook that lost money from bets since its inception ?
Are you feeling confident depositing Bitcoins to a Sportsbook that is losing money Did you read the report? Look at June. Yes I read the reports and yes they earned in June, but you are misleading your followers by publishing incomplete information. Overall since inception their Sportsbook lost 70 BTC, and that number is much higher once you add up the operational expenses and salaries, especially if they have many employees as you claim.
Please explain why you are upgrading the rating of a Sportsbook that lost money from bets since its inception ?
Are you feeling confident depositing Bitcoins to a Sportsbook that is losing money Read the June report again. You don't seem to understand it. |
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Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have good sized staffs.
How do you know ? Have you met them in person ?? How many employees do they have ? How many employees are on your staff? I would guess that you are a two man operation. It's not a bad thing as long as you are paying players but the top books are expanding at a higher rate. They seem to engulf the smaller books over time. |
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DirectBet- What is the size of your staff? Anonibet and Casinobitcoin have good sized staffs. Anonibet shelled out the most money for World Cup contests followed by Nitrogen. The top 3 books are good books.
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DirectBet - Here's some more on Casinibicoin June expenses include the following (further breakout is later in this document, as well
as full P&L located in the appendix)
1.09 BTC on advertising
6.3 BTC on player comps
14.3538 BTC on contractor development including spending on improved security measures
1.91 BTC in hosting expenses
1 BTC in Havelock expenses
5.3364 BTC in other expenses including our 3rd party bookmaker and seo costs.
For a total: 29.9961 BTC in expenses.
The remaining earnings of 22.7139 will be paid out in a dividend of 76 satoshi per Havelock unit |
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