Won't get into this being the BTC area and NOT for anything alts... edit: mods moved it
No, they are being the same old Bitmain. They do not glom together PSU and miner orders. They are shipped separately when they come in just like they have always done. Just when did they say the PSU's would ship? Bet nothing was said about it being same time as miners.
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That does bring up something I've noted in the past. All my s9/t9's have invalids around 0.079 and lower. All my Avalons: around 0.875%. Last time this was brought up Kano said that Bitmain miners do not report all invalids. As to what this means - ? ? ?
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Yes, Bitcoin. This *IS* the BTC area after all. If you want to talk about other coins, use the correct area, namely Altcoins (Speculation).
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I saw new usb miner gekkoscience, if its useless then why they selling it? You do know the 2PAC's use chips harvested from the old s5's right? We are now 2 generations past those. Sidehack's sticks are made for novelty and for solo lotto mining. No one with any knowledge of mining buys them to generate reliable income because they just cannot do it.
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You *do* know that there is an Official CGminer thread in the software section right? Of course only problem with that is: This is the BITCOIN area and ^^ is -ck's thread. Ya know, the author of cgminer? As such he is going to tell you: The official cgminer is for mining only BITCOINS. It has been forked numerous times to mine altcoins and since you are mining alts - contact the author/maintainer of the fork. Post in the altcoin software area for help.
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The dimension are in the product specs on Buttmain's site...
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Also check to make sure the hot air comes OUT of the black fan shroud. At least one person here reported their fan was installed backwards. If wrong way, easy fix to turn the fan around.
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Okay dang, I need to up my prices quite a bit then.
Truth be told - if at all possible yes you do! What limits you of course is your scale of production. Even with the automation you have the amount of hands-touching things vs units produced is still very high simply because the market is not (easily) there to take the next step. If with several x more sales then you run afoul of pricing from Avalon and Buttmain unless you can nail the proverbial niche Home Miner market assuming BitFury comes through with chips. As you know there IS a sizeable niche Home market but by BiteMe and Canaan standards really too small to properly target. Folks WILL pay a premium for a truly quiet and moderately power hungry miner. It just needs to be designed for that from day-1 - just as you are working on. By necessity they of course will have to be Limited Editions ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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OMG I think I might blow a gasket! I also got the email, I wonder what the "recompense" would be. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) In the past it has been things like t-shirts, caps, one of their old stick miners, so who knows. At least they communicate vs what I've been reading re: Buttmain
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Looks like the heat sink fins themselves have fins. Nice touch as that can easily double the effective surface area. Dragons did the same.
As for no-fans power-down cooking factor because of the large mass -- the A7's also use very large sinks and yes it is best to either stop cgminer so the miner has a chance to idle and cool down or - pull the data cable. Miner immediately goes into idle.
A couple times I just killed power while moving around and DAMN do the cases get hot! Ended up pointing them into the exhaust of some other miners to bring the temps down...
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Soooo i saw some post on reddit - Someone was complaining that Bitmain didn't sent them PSU even if they did make same order Miner+PSU. Someone replied on it and said that they sent 2 of those in 2 different shipments... Is any of this true? Can someone please answer, Did anyone had problem like this? With common sense i am expecting for shipment to arrive both at the same time, is that how they work? Or is really 2 different shipment?
All lot of whiners on the Forum today.... So I take it you have never ordered anything through the mail/internet before? Apparently to some folks this will be an earth shattering epiphany: More often than not, items are shipped separately.... Yea i understand that they are shipped separately, but i don't want to be in same cae, S9 received and PSU not... Won't have PSU to turn it up then... Just asking in advance because there are a lot of experienced members here... That is not whining that is looking for advice... Ja, that is different case. All I can say is that in the past when I ordered miners and PSU's at the same time, they arrived at worst within a day of each other. BUT: a. Last PSU I bought was probably over a year ago - been mining for ages so most were bought a few years ago, just moved to newer miners. b. Last s9 I bought was just before Bitemain began pumping BCH by saying "you want? You pay with BCH. Period." Screw that noise. Now I buy Avalons and to Bitmain, ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherv.net%2Fcm%2Femo%2Frude%2F1%2Ffist.gif&t=663&c=LUdOCrsG3A0vew)
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If you guys want to defend selling any item for whatever price a person would pay, since it's their own responsibility, I understand. In a way you are right.
But personally, I would only sell items with acceptable profit margins. My website for examples, operates at tops 50% profit, and that's before income taxes. This is where the free market really does justice, right now you've got about a handful companies producing miners, if there were 100 companies doing it, they'd have to compete with each other, but they know barely anyone is producing this hardware, so they're holding you by the balls as much as they can. Milking you for how much is possible.
Never worked in the hardware end of mfg have you? Typical NET profit is well over 100% depending on the industry and yes, the quality of competition. In my industry (industrial lasers) mfgr markups from material/labor costs are typically over 150% and integrators still can easily charge another 75-100% markup on their costs of equipment bought from the manufacturers to be made into systems for our customers. How do we 'get away' with it? Easy. Our systems generate massive profits for our customers. Same as mining can.
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Soooo i saw some post on reddit - Someone was complaining that Bitmain didn't sent them PSU even if they did make same order Miner+PSU. Someone replied on it and said that they sent 2 of those in 2 different shipments... Is any of this true? Can someone please answer, Did anyone had problem like this? With common sense i am expecting for shipment to arrive both at the same time, is that how they work? Or is really 2 different shipment?
All lot of whiners on the Forum today.... So I take it you have never ordered anything through the mail/internet before? Apparently to some folks this will be an earth shattering epiphany: More often than not, items are shipped separately....
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Are you will be selling bare chips for DIY miners? (I will also drop you email with some exact question on info@) BTW: Good job with designs and sale!
Don't you just love how some folks just post idiotic things like this? Shows a serious lack of brains when they do not even realize that despite it being said many many times in these last few pages: for a few years now Spondoolies is gone. Out of business. Kerput.
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Lol so grumpy! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Meh, I'm NotFuzzyWarm for a reason... Mostly willing to give posters a break if they show at least some signs of intelligence or thought behind what they ask. For them, ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherv.net%2Fcm%2Femo%2Fhappy%2Fhappy-dog-smiley-emoticon.gif&t=663&c=p__h5wNVM8voIA) and kinder guidence along their path to knowledge. Then ya get posters for whom ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherv.net%2Fcm%2Femoticons%2Fschool%2Fmath-problem-smiley-emoticon.gif&t=663&c=bDGZg-vL1uNWFw) leading to the response of ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sherv.net%2Fcm%2Femoticons%2Fguns%2Fgrenade-toss.gif&t=663&c=AAv9kHK2CAay-Q) The emoticons are of course for the benefit of the latter group since only bright moving things get their attention...
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Which sticks? There 2 different ones, the original 1-chip COMPAC and the newer 2-chip 2PAC. Both have their own dedicated threads in the Hardware area. Use them for answers.
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Back to the point of the OP -- you do know there is a 2PAC thread in the Hardware section here right? Ya know, one that covers all the in's and outs of running the sticks? Brief answer, the PI is fine for running a lot of them. Primary limit is the USB power hub you use to feed them.
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is it clear time for releasing ? what are your predictions ?
READ THE DAMN THREAD! It was started as pure speculation by an idiot who does not know how to use punctuation. There is NO new release coming for a long long time numbnutz.
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Try asking in the ALTCOIN areas where like-minded folks are. As stated in the top posts -- This area is BITCOIN only. We don't use no stinkin' GPU's.
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... What part of Mainly for the reliability factor I still would buy the Avalon's. is not clear? You ask, 'are they better?' In terms of reliability and stability - yes. As efficient as the s9 - no. Which is better just depends on what YOU care about.
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