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3241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: July 22, 2021, 01:27:10 PM
Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.
Donaire and inoue are both the greatest bettors right now in the boxing ring, i often see the way they bet, to be honest i myself often say for them donaire the legend and inoue the monster.
Do you mean boxers? because I have not heard that they are betting on their games and I think it's inappropriate too.
Well, Donaire is a legend, but not a legendary status with Manny Pacquiao, he had some big fights, win a championship but he ranks just at the level or ordinary champion, nothing so special with him, but I believe Inoue is something special.
^ It is possible and we don't know since they have many people, if you are confident enough to yourself that you will win on that match, it is good sometimes if you will bet your own fight for the multiple winning, sounds greedy but who knows there are players thinking the same of what I have mentioned. Regarding Inoue, there will be a chance that he could knock down Manny Pacquiao, all of these are unpredictable fights and we don't know who will be win this fight or it is time for Manny to resign and give up his boxing career and proceed to a political career which is next year he will run for the presidential candidate.

I'm not sure if it's really allowed to bet on yourself because when you do that, that could mean you can fix the game, actually, it's easier to intentionally lose than winning the fight, so let's say you have a big fight and there's a big market for the particular fight, then you can just bet $20 million for yourself to lose, that's easy money, probably easier than what you will make in a certain fight.
3242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion on: July 21, 2021, 09:58:09 PM
Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.
Donaire and inoue are both the greatest bettors right now in the boxing ring, i often see the way they bet, to be honest i myself often say for them donaire the legend and inoue the monster.
Do you mean boxers? because I have not heard that they are betting on their games and I think it's inappropriate too.
Well, Donaire is a legend, but not a legendary status with Manny Pacquiao, he had some big fights, win a championship but he ranks just at the level or ordinary champion, nothing so special with him, but I believe Inoue is something special.

3243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Elon tweet again that he is supporting Crypto against Fiat on: July 21, 2021, 09:31:47 PM
I also wonder what Elon Musk really wants. although we know Elon has high talent in various fields.
What Elon Musk wants is only one thing, namely profit for himself and his business, because that is the goal of many of the strategies he creates at this time, so don't be surprised at Elon Musk.

Everyone company has that goal, but Elon's journey in crypto is just all by himself, he can use his company a bit but he is tweeting not as Tesla but he himself being as a shill. He already makes money from people with small knowledge about crypto as they'll just blindly follow him, and he will not stop as long as he continues making money since there's no legal obligation or violation that he will have to face of what he is doing.
3244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: July 21, 2021, 09:03:26 PM
So "glad" hardcore rigged Philippine Basketball  is back, always good for a laugh.

Alaska aces 17/36 free throws, turnover 20sec before the end at 82:82 and then lose to a buzzer.

Did everything they can to lose this game.

This league is a real shame, honestly!



Really? or maybe it's just your own opinion, we might think the league is rigged but we can't conclude they are as we have no evidence.

If you are a bettor, just bet on the right side so you'll win.

I'm glad I was not able to bet on this game, I might still lose as I will bet on the magnolia spread.

This has nothing to do with right side - wrong side.

PH basketball has a history of being corrupt and fixed and easy to tell at the start of the season that this hasn't changed.

I agree with that, but if you really know it's corrupt and you are still watching it, then you should put some bet and take advantage of it. The thing is, you would not love watching the game if you don't put a bet because it will not anymore excite you, so no sense in wasting your time.

Actually, it's not only PBA that is corrupt, even NBA, there are a lot of theories that fix games are happening, so PBA is not different.
3245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season Champion: Milwaukee Bucks on: July 21, 2021, 08:38:37 PM
Bucks really made it, congrats to them! And I think that they totally deserved this title also. Actually, Giannis deserved it. He played incredible in the whole series. And in the last game, it was his best performance. He scored 50 points, that was huge. He just carried his team to the win and the title.

The good thing is he remained humble, as if he doesn't carry the team and even cried for happiness, I like this guy, he will surely become a hall of famer. I believe in the long run, he will improve more, his 3 point shooting and perimeter shooting might improve like LBJ.
3246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Economic Costs of Gambling on: July 20, 2021, 09:42:51 PM
Gambling is a business where the dumb money replaces itself with smart money. It is as simple as this. The odds are against the players' favor. Otherwise, the casinos wouldn't exist. If you know that information, you can't ruin yourself financially even if you wanted to.

Most people that lose their life savings don't know that or don't care hence the name "dumb money".

But when you go to a restaurant and drink $ 100 wine (which costs $ 20 in a regular store), you also have no chance of getting a refund or even saving your money  Wink But a lot of people behave like this and it suits them, they consider such spending to be acceptable. I think the majority of casino visitors think the same - it's simple spending on entertainment, not dumb money.

I agree with that, most casino goers are just having fun, they can even spend money on drinks that are expensive just to enjoy their time in a casino, so there's nothing to complain about, we just need to change our mindset and consider gambling as entertainment so it will not hunt us and we are safe from getting addicted.
3247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: July 20, 2021, 08:57:43 PM
Having a hard time trying to decide whether I should bet this game or not tonight. On one hand I think the Suns are hungry and of course know it's a must win, but on the other Giannis is just so good and I think they have the most momentum. Either way I don't know about all of you but I am not ready for the season to be over already  Sad

Just make sure you enjoy the game tonight, NBA Finals is time for enjoyment, bet on your favorite team blindly as they are good since they reach at this level. Game 7 is possible although the line says the Bucks will win in game 6, we never know, so it's worth gambling.
3248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: July 20, 2021, 08:39:52 PM
The time has come, we will know in few hours if the Bucks will be able to close out the series and win the Championship.

Suns has no answer in the last 3 games, Bucks should win this game, but anything could happen, Suns is a great team, they had some good games where they could have won the game, so the possibility of upsetting the Bucks in game 6 is possible.

The Bucks starters has to play their best game to finish the series today.
3249  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: July 17, 2021, 09:41:02 PM

Parang instinct nalang yun ni Giannis at tama nga naman siya. Kaya pala ni Giannis I block si Ayton pero di ko pa nakitang na block ni Ayton si Giannis kaya pwedeng gawing advantage ni Giannis yung atake sa loob. Maliban sa center ng Suns, wala pang nakaka limit sa production ni Giannis.

Kung ganon pa rin tulad ng game 3 ang ipapakita ni Middleton baka mananalo pa ang bucks.

Tingin nyu mga kabayan, consistent pa rin ba si Middleton sa game 5?

Na typo error ka ata kabayan, kung ung production na gagawin ni Middleton eh ung nagawa nya nung game 3 19 points lang ata,
baka madehado sila kasi asa bahay na sila ng Suns, pero kung ung production nya eh katulad nung game 4 na  umabot ng 40 points
baka magandang laban ang ibigay talaga nila sa SUns,
Game 4 siguro ibig niyang sabihin, pero kung same production is Middleton sa game 3 at monster naman si Giannis, siguro okay na rin yun dahil 20 points lang naman ang panalo ng Bucks sa game 3, in short na dominate nila ang laban.

Mahirap masabi kung paano mag aadjust ang Suns kasi nakita naman natin na talagang kaya din nila kahit malalaki ang Bucks, dying quarter na bumawi ang Bucks salamat sa heroic performance ni Middleton.

Pero sa tingin ko sa game 5 sa home team ang timpla ko dito, hindi papayag basta basta ang Suns na madehado

Di rin papayag ang Bucks na maka una ang Suns, nasa kanila na ang winning momentum, kaya mas confident sila ngayon.
Maganda ang composure ng Bucks dahil kahit mukhang matatalo nag sila sa game 4, focus pa rin sila sa defense at ganda ng plays nila.
3250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casimero vs Rigondeaux this August 14, 2021 on: July 17, 2021, 09:19:21 PM
I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

Since he already experiences that kind of feeling, he is fully aware now of what he will do.

I'm with Casimero here, as a countryman but he should treat Rigondeaux as a threat to his legacy.

40 years of age with only 1 loss, that's how that boxer able to maintain his good record over years.
It wouldn't really matter on the age but rather on overall fight count which is 20-1-0 which is really impressive and cant be really reached out by someone easily on the industry.

Even Casimero is experienced on this one in terms of total fight counts but doesn't mean that he would really be precisely winning this one.
He shouldn't really be that too confident.

I don't like on being too tactful before the fight but since its part of the marketing then I do just simply ignore it.

That's right, it's all about the marketing and most boxers seemed to understand that if you trash talk, you will get the attention of the people and they will watch the fight because they are curious. Casimero is not yet a popular fighter, so it could be his way to introduce himself to the public.

Casimero's promoter said this, different from what Casimero said.  Grin

https://www.boxingscene.com/casimero-promoter-rigondeaux-tougher-fight-he-beat-donaire--158943
3251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your betting budget on: July 17, 2021, 08:50:46 PM
some people are betting just for fun , there is sometime free money like bonus from casino little sums but just for fun because gambling is not good way for making money , the risk of gambling is ,for many people, gambling is harmless fun, but it can become a problem , because problem gambling is harmful to psychological and physical health. People who live with this always have those bad thing , You should not rely on gambling as a source of living
They are maximizing the free money they get from for free and that’s fine as long as they didn’t go beyond their limit because gambling can become more expensive at your side if you’re seeking for too much fun, its addicting.

Anyway, budgeting is one my top priority and with regards to gambling capital, I don’t always have budget on this but sometimes if I get extra money on that month, I tried to play and later on regret it because of being greedy. Due to this pandemic, I limit myself up to $100 only if I have the extra.

$100 dollar, is that for per every session?

For me, I'm more into bankroll budgeting, so I can put up to $1000 and it will already last for several days if unlucky but I would be able to withdraw some profit if I'm lucky, so the point is, I stick with my max bankroll and I'm just like getting an interest if I have some lucky days. Also, I carefully choose my game and I am so disciplined with the amount per bet, I remain conservative so the enjoyment will last longer.
3252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: July 17, 2021, 08:28:59 PM
on the other hand, Spence is the undisputed champ. you can't just knock the man without struggling. he is also younger, the fatality he can damage while Pacquiao has aged...result could be..
Errol Spence is the undisputed champion and he is younger and he is able to defeat Manny Pacquiao then that could help him launch his career and big money fights after that.

Well, that would make him more popular as betting a legend is a big success in his boxing career, and if he wins, he is still undefeated though there's still a boxer that he has to beat which is Crawford, but if Crawford is not willing to fight, Spence might move up in weight and fight champions again.
3253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TLM Coin Pumping. Why? on: July 17, 2021, 02:19:12 PM
I'm confused with what OP said that this coin is pumping, actually, it's my first time to hear this coin and I check in CMC and found this, https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/alien-worlds/.. and as I check, I didn't see in the price history where it pumps, so probably OP is talking about another coin?

If there's a pump, I think it's only in a few days and there's really no significant increase IMO.
3254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 on: July 17, 2021, 01:37:06 PM

In any case, Manny being the underdog is good for us.

I think Manny will remain an underdog even on the actual fight, lots of Americans will bet on Spence as he is the younger and the bigger guy, and champion as well. We believe in our countryman and since he is a "pambansang kamao",  we should support him no matter what.

I am so excited for this fight man. As someone who really grew up watching at least most of his fights, it is such a privilege to witness the People's Champ back in the ring with his age not hindering him from fighting the very best from his weigh division.

Do you guys have an idea about the pay-per-view setup on his match? I've been trying to look for the pricing but there seems to be no updates on how to watch the fight. I am pretty sure that I'm going to bet hard on this fight for Manny!

Maybe we will see some PPV offers as the fight is nearing, and yes man, that's the right thing to do, bet hard on Manny Pacquiao as he definitely has a good chance of winning the fight, Spence is big and strong, but who are we to doubt our very own who is the only 8th division champion.
Pacman was the underdog of this fight or not, age limit or not. I am still going for him as the winning of this fight and I know the lover of boxing that really understand his capacity will do the same. Besides, Logan Paul statement when he visited Pacman at his training session should make people understand that Pacman is not playing.

I hear that the fight PPV offer can be find on fite.tv

Most of us here are betting on Pacquiao to win, that's for sure as most fans are Filipino fans. I only notice a few here that think Spence will win although in sportsbook he is the favorite, so this thread is a bit bias, lol.. Anyway, as long as we will see a great fight, that would be so nice, whoever wins as long as it's an entertaining fight and both will make a good payday.

To know the votes of the posters here, I guess we have to request from @LFC_Bitcoin to put a poll on who will win in this fight.
But like you said, there's a lot of Filipino fans here, it would still be so obvious that they'll pick Pacquiao to win the fight.

I thought the odds will change in favor of Pacquiao, but it seems it's favoring Spence already as the odds for Pacquiao to win have increased to 2.80.


odds taken from sportsbet.io
3255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: July 17, 2021, 12:44:17 PM
The pressure is on the Bucks here not on Phoenix.

Maybe if they believe they can win because they are playing at their home, but no if the game 3 loss is still haunting them as they could have won that game. CP3 made mistakes with his turnover and so did Booker has he needs to sit like 5 minutes in the 4th quarter as he got 5 fouls, that was the time the Bucks had a great opportunity for a big run.

We will see in game 5 but I think we have a lot of Bucks backers here as they already won twice in a row, if they will lose it should be a close game and they might cover the -4.5 spread. I love to read what the guys here think about game 5, will the Suns bounce back this time?

Also, the under seemed lock for me. Thoughts on my bet?
The Suns' crowd is one of the best crowds this post season and for sure, the Bucks are in too much pressure right now even though they won 2 in a row.
I wonder how Giannis will handle this crowd when he shoots free throws. Lets face it, the counting of the crowd when he shoots is distracting him causing him to miss a lot of free throws compare to when he is shooting on their home.


Even at home, Giannis is still not consistent with his free throw so I don't see the pressure here, he shoots his way and that's it. IMO, the pressure is also high for the Suns because the Bucks were able to tied the series, that's scary knowing they beat the Suns twice in a row already.

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Suns will win on Game 5. Booker will be more cautious about his fouls and CP3 will try to prevent having turnovers. Bets on Suns Smiley.

The recipe for a win, but let's see if they can work it accordingly.
3256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: July 17, 2021, 12:07:41 PM

Why Lakers?  Grin
This guy has so much money already from rapping, commercials and his own salary from playing. I don't think he really needs a high income but he want a championship so bad. Lakers cannot provide that anymore. Lebron is getting older and is more prone to injuries. AD had the same issues but still young.


The guy is most likely to be staying with the Blazers. The Dame to Lakers rumors has been going on since last season.
If he desperately needs a championship, the Lakers ain't a bad destination for him though.
You don't think the Lakers are capable of winning one?
Well, let's just see what they can do next season. Because IMO, they are still a threat in the West coz they'll for sure reconstruct to a better roster. The Laker management is obviously good at that, and that's the main reason why they had 17 trophies.

I admire him but if he to the Lakers to form a super team, I think I would be disappointed with that. Why can't he just follow Giannis or Booker which stays at their team and now they are already in the NBA Finals, whoever wins the series, for sure one of them will be an NBA Champion.
3257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: XRP Price After Lawsuit? on: July 16, 2021, 03:56:48 PM
With this lawsuit, of course, XRP's reputation is difficult in the market, especially since many exchanges removed XRP in December, and I still remember that the price of XRP dropped by more than 28%.
I have to ask you, since when did you get to know this XRP coin? because I've known this XRP coin for so long that they also have a community by creating strong fundamentals on the XRP coin in the market, and for proof, let's see when the pump happened in the early months of this year, did XRP look like it was in trouble at the time that ?

It's been going on, there's no decision yet about the lawsuit so most likely the price will continue to struggle.

Here's probably the latest news.
https://financefeeds.com/sec-v-ripple-hearing-on-controversial-deposition-is-bad-for-ripple-expert-says/
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SEC V. RIPPLE: HEARING ON CONTROVERSIAL DEPOSITION IS “BAD FOR RIPPLE”, EXPERT SAYS
JULY 14, 2021 10:35 AM UTC, RICK STEVES
“If she was satisfied by the briefings she would have simply ordered the deposition to take place.”

Judge Sarah Netburn has scheduled a telephone conference for July 15, 2021, at 3:00 p.m (ET) in response to Ripple’s request to speed up the decision regarding the SEC’s motion to quash the deposition of William Hinman.

Last week, the Defendants had re-noticed ex-SEC Director William Hinman’s deposition for July 19, 2021, which pressured the Judge to make a decision before then, preferably to deny the SEC’s Motion in the eyes of Ripple and its co-founders.

read the above link for the complete story.
3258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: another bullrun before 2021 ends on: July 16, 2021, 03:41:26 PM
I also still think there will be another bullrun this year, $60K USD not ATH Bitcoin this year, there will be another wave that will bring Bitcoin to the price of around $100K USD. this is just my prediction. DYOR
I think that the majority of those that know something about bitcoin believe this is going to be the case, the top that we saw did not seemed as a top at all and this is making everyone to suspect there is still more for bitcoin in store during the last half of the year, however we also need to prepare ourselves in the case we are wrong, after all bitcoin is completely unpredictable and if the price begins to go down again we must avoid selling our coins as that is precisely what the whales want.

Or maybe we can sell to stable coin and wait until the price to go down further and start accumulating.

We've seen this scenario many times in the past, and we are in this situation as well, so it's not new to us and we know what to do in this situation.
It's like gambling, it's very unpredictable but those who panic first will certainly lose in this game.

my thoughts, no bull run this year and the next year to come.
3259  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I rather stay hungry than sell my Bitcoin on: July 16, 2021, 02:00:45 PM
LMAO, there has been a saying that only invest what you can afford, so your principle is wrong to stay hungry because you might die and you will not benefit from your holdings, that's so stupid. Bitcoin is just money, you can live without it, what's important is your help but my point here is don't invest the money that you can't afford to lose, it's always a recipe for disaster.
3260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: July 16, 2021, 01:36:15 PM
Also, the under seemed lock for me. Thoughts on my bet?

It depends, game 1 and game 2 went over, so if Suns will win, we might see an over.  However, we can also consider that the Bucks might play harder and will try to steal a game on the road so they can finish the game in 6, fans would want that of course but Suns would not allow it so most likely it will be the suns who will dictate the tempo.
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