Actually my won/lost balance at powerbet .io is close to zero, but I have deposited huge amount.
Powerbet:
"Your withdrawal ability has been temporarily disabled because your account has been flagged for investigation regarding multi-accounting suspicion
Regarding the investigation duration, unfortunatelly it's a rather lenghty one since your betting activity is almost identical with the activity of a large number of players, most of the bets being placed on minor leagues.
Since we have to annalyze each of this accounts in order to clearly establish any possible associations, at this point we cannot give you a rigourous estimation on the investigation end."
Last time, when they answered to my e-mail was 21st of March!
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I don't really understand your problem, you change the words. I have no problem, which words did I change? I'm looking for poker players who want to follow and support this project. This thread has meanwhile 2 pages and you were not able to tell us for what kind of help are you looking? I don't know why you think we are clueless in regards to legal things, why do you think that? If you are an expert for something, then you can easily see if someone else is not. You informed us that some team members are also poker pros, but poker pros are not legal pros or business economist pros. Yes i'm speaking about online poker - and i'm pretty sure the most of our team got more experience than you or your service, this is why we don't need your help. I did not offer my help and honestly, I have no interest at all to support your project. You are pretty sure that most of your poker pros got more experience about online gaming consumer protection service then I got? Not more. Pls, stop this discussion. Your statement is in contradiction to "Feel free to ask what you want about the software, system and concept". Feel free to ask what you want about the software, system and concept. This thread is about these points, Q&A. I asked several questions that are still unanswered, for example, for what kind of help are you looking from the community? |
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The $60 I have received do not compensate all the effort I have spent so far and all the harassment I have received, but he is the first who fulfilled his announcement to send some coins to those who helped him.  You have serious mental problem. I suggest you to search for medical help. Mr doctor, please also give me the name of my mental disease, so I can save the medical costs? Or do you think the $60 are sufficient to pay the medical treatment? In case you didn't notice, people here are trying to help without asking for money, and all I can hear from you is -give me the money for my help. In case you did not notice, 1) I publicised a Duckdice.io scam article on Game Protect website that is listed on the first page and within the first entries on google. To build up the Game Protect website and get scam articles listed on the first page and within the first entries took several 1000s hours of my time 2) I inform in my signature about the Duckdice.io scam and the value of my signature is worth at least $200 per month 3) If all the other people offer such a service cost free and pay the time and the price from their pocket, then I will immediately remove my service 1) + 2) Show me? 4) Out of curiosity, did the help of the other people lead to get his remaining 6.76 BTC processed? |
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Yes, it was both sides fault, but I believe this case has been resolved. Everyone is moving on, the player who clicked the cancel button already got back his deposit balance, the player did not complete the wagering requirement and thus the winning should not be counted, the result is fair for both parties. Maybe the so called game-protect just can't understand how the bonus should work?  Or maybe game-protect is trying to get some "donation" from Duckdice by spreading negativity?  Or maybe something else? By the way, we can always choose to ignore the nonsense comments from game-protect, nobody knows what are he trying to achieve here. I disagree that it is customer's fault to use features offered by a gambling site, but I fully agree that it is customer's fault to use the Duckdice scam service! |
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Thanks for your advise. But pls understand that this project is fouded by poker pros who are inside this buisness for at least 10 years. If the poker pros who will found this project are already inside the online gambling business for at least 10 years, why do you ask the community for help then? U maybe don't understand the concept. Feel free to explain it? We do not talk about an online casino So it will be a brick and mortar poker room? We do not compare poker with casinos. Thats the different. You compare poker with what? Thanks for your interest, but we don't need any help. We waant to build up this new brand with the help of the poker community (at least some team members are also poker pros with a lot of experience and knowlage). SniXPoker - Q&A Thread <--- Poker players support needed here! |
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it will be part of your balance once you claim the bonus.
for example: initial deposit 2 btc >> claim 120% bonus = he will play 4.4 btc as his actual balance (initial depo + bonus were merged). you can only withdraw the balance "IF" you finish bonus which is unfortunately cancelled by the player at 23% wagered. If the bonus became part of his balance when he claimed it, then this is in contradiction to their bonus rule and therefore juridically not valid or the add was a gift of the house! Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance. If the add was in contradiction to their bonus rule, then he played solely with his deposit and if the add was a gift, they are not entitled to steal winnings! if you can read it back , he "cancelled the bonus", most casino sites forfeit profits from bonus if the player didnt finish clearing the bonus on allotted time (1 month for duckdice bonus system) or bonus was cancelled. There is a misunderstood on your behalf, he clicked |Cancel Bonus| but duckdice canceled his whole balance! What most casinos do is absolutely irrelevant for his case, because his case has to be handled based on duckdice's bonus rules and based on the applicable laws. Did Duckdice inform you about the applicable laws, so we can take a look at it? |
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I welcome anyone trying to use game-protect service as long as the 10% is safely escrowed Use someone from the escrow list, or myself As the Bitcoin price rised, it is only 5% of the amount owed (read the article). I agree to escrow the 5% and after I filed the criminal complaints at the police in Switzerland and where the gaming server is, I will receive the escrowed amount. Follow up with the authorities is also included. |
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2) His profit was not made with bonus funds!
it is clearly stated that when you claim duckdice bonus, your initial deposit + bonus will be merged. the guy already got back his 2 btc initial deposit. Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance. The guy was misleaded to click the |Cancel Bonus| button and wants continue to play. im just stating that he actually profit with the help of the bonus (initial deposit + bonus merged) and the fact that he cancelled his bonus at 23%. duckdice already give him back his initial deposit. i think this is fair for both parties. How can you profit from a bonus that was never part of your balance? What happened with his 5 BTC winnings? |
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2) His profit was not made with bonus funds!
it is clearly stated that when you claim duckdice bonus, your initial deposit + bonus will be merged. the guy already got back his 2 btc initial deposit. Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance. The guy was misleaded to click the |Cancel Bonus| button and wants continue to play. |
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You are right. It's basically all about protecting customers and doing everything within the law (none of us wants to support terrorists or any other criminals). After receipt of identification documents, do you compare the name with an existing list of terrorists or do you have to send requests to Interpol each time? I meant this like that we follow standard steps against money laundry and other illegal activities whcih can in the end endanger other people. Exact procedures know only a limited number of people to achieve the greatest security and privacy of our users. AML laws require to check the identity for amounts above $10,000 and prior to a deposit. And this confirms that you do not follow AML laws or try to prevent illegal activities! Your behaviour strongly indicates that you act for your own financial benefit. |
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I believe it's both sides fault.
DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.
Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.
Duckdice bonus rules: Your balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel the bonus at any time. Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance. 1) He can cancel in the middle! 2) His profit was not made with bonus funds! |
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Be aware!!!! Powerbet.io is SCAM. Do not pay withdrawal for more than 4 month!!! Does someone tried to get funds in other way? To write complaint to some organisations???
You can sue the operator at the organisation police or court in Switzerland! |
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We are at a early point of this project, first public anncouncements are done. The whole devlopment will take it's time - we create a software from 0.
We waant to build up this new brand with the help of the poker community (at least some team members are also poker pros with a lot of experience and knowlage). For what kind of help are you looking specifically? I am for example a legal expert in regards to online gambling, are you looking for something like this? Deposit and withdrawal method only crypto coins? I'm sorry. But you have to understand, that we can't work with someone getting these kind of feedbacks. Thanks! Your statement shows that you are currently clueless in regards to legal things, as a legal advisor works in the background and publicly made defamations about him are irrelevant. As you look for a lot of money to invest while you are clueless about legal things, I wish everyone good luck! |
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Hi there Ozafejyw782,
Thanks for being generous, even though you really didn't need to do such a thing.
How many people sent you a PM with their address? I won't ask you to name them, but I will say shame on those who took advantage of your offer - I doubt many of them would have done the same thing you did.
The $60 I have received do not compensate all the effort I have spent so far and all the harassment I have received, but he is the first who fulfilled his announcement to send some coins to those who helped him. |
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You claim on your website to have a license, please show us your license?
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You claim on your website to have a license, please show us your license?
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What will you do if the trusted gambling site turns into untrusted, like it already happened countless of times?
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HE ALREADY GOT HIS 2 BTC – TOTAL AMOUNT OF A DEPOSIT – BACK!
AND WE ARE REWORKING BONUSES ALGORITHM TO FIT TO COMMUNITY REQUIREMENTS.
You forgot to mention what happened with his 5 BTC winnings? Where did you get those amount (8.xx BTC ,5 BTC and the 7 BTC in your siganature)?Fabricated?Guessed?Lol!!! What Duckdice did to solve the situation is fair enough for both parties.We dont know how Ozafe will play if ever he continues the wagering,might lose it or win it. Well if you will really insist that there were 8.xx BTC to be refunded (if he continues to play with the 1% house edge) let me show you some math and ill prove you that there is no 8.xx BTC. He deposit 2 BTC and claim the 120% first deposit bonus = 4.4BTC >>> current balance after claiming bonusHe need to wager 55x (only half of the bet amount are counted): 2.4 BTC x 55 x 2 = 264BTC >>> need to wager to unlock bonusHe cancelled the bonus at 23%: 264 BTC x 23% = 60.72BTC >>> amount of what he had wager 264 BTC - 60.72 BTC = 203.28BTC >>> need to wager if he continuesHe cancelled at 23% with 9.xx BTC consider it 9 BTCAssume that he continue and play with the house edge: 203.28 BTC x 1%(house edge) = 2.033BTC>>> will lose upon wageringSo 9 BTC - 2.033 BTC = 6.967 btc >>> Total balance after wagering(again,if he continues and play against the house edge),therfore no 8.xx btc and since he cancelled the Bonus it is FAIR that the site just gave him his inittial deposit. "(only half of the bet amount are counted)" would mean that the wagering requirement is 110x instead of the stated 55x! 110x is in contradiction to 55x and therefore not juridically valid! He has to wager 55x as I used in my calculation. Ozafejyw782’s account stated that 23% are already wagered. But as duckdice illegally counted only 50% of the wagered amount, in reality he already wagered 46% of the 2.4 BTC bonus! Here is the exact calculation: 2 BTC deposited + 2.4 BTC bonus + 5.08 BTC winnings = 9.48 BTC account balance. 55x wagering of 2.4 BTC bonus = 132 BTC minus 46% (60 BTC) already wagered = 72 BTC left. 1% house edge of 72 BTC to wager = 0.72 BTC loss. If he will wager the remaining 72 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.72 BTC and his account balance will be statistically 8.76 BTC. So please Stop asking for more and player Ozafe already accepted his 2BTC,meaning it is already solved. I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund. You can send me your bitcoin addresses in PM.
I have never been treated like that by the casino in my whole life. I strongly recommend to everyone here to avoid Duck Dice.
The case is half resolved. As you appear to be such a clever guy, please explain me based on which laws duckdice has the right to cancel his 5.08 BTC winnings? I do not know what is wrong with you but I think, duckdice never owe you anything right? Correct. But as Game Protect does not act based on own claims, I do not get the sense of your question? Why you are so persistent about this thing? I love to inform about scams where the victim is called a terrorist. Despite of this, what a bottomless insolence to donate deposits from innocent customers! First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus. According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case: I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.
The case is half resolved. The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then. However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation. Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC. |
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You are right. It's basically all about protecting customers and doing everything within the law (none of us wants to support terrorists or any other criminals). After receipt of identification documents, do you compare the name with an existing list of terrorists or do you have to send requests to Interpol each time? |
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Hi everyone,
I would like to explain my sad experience with Cloudbet casino. I've tried some BTC casinos and decided to make some bets in Cloudbet. I like to play with some higher limits. So I've deposited 2.5BTC. After some low bets I've made 2.5BTC bet and won. So I had 5BTC in my account in total. After a few time I've requested to withdraw all my coins. Then in two days I realized that my account was frozen. Also I've received an email from Cloudbet security team in which they wrote me that my activity is quite unusual and that's why I need to send them a scan of my passport; utility bill; my photo and so on. So now I can't withdraw my coins though Cloudbet is providing an anonymous service.
Why did you drive without security belt? Ask them to quote the applicable laws which entitle them to let you deposit and play without identity verification, but require to ask for identity verification when you want to withdraw? Ask them to show you their license? Good luck! |
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