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HE ALREADY GOT HIS 2 BTC – TOTAL AMOUNT OF A DEPOSIT – BACK!
AND WE ARE REWORKING BONUSES ALGORITHM TO FIT TO COMMUNITY REQUIREMENTS.

You forgot to mention what happened with his 5 BTC winnings?
Where did you get those amount (8.xxBTC ,5BTC and the 7BTC in your siganature)?Fabricated?Guessed?Lol!!! What Duckdice did to solve the situation is fair enough for both parties.We dont know how Ozafe will play if ever he continues the wagering,might lose it or win it.

Well if you will really insist that there were 8.xxBTC to be refunded (if he continues to play with the 1% house edge) let me show you some math and ill prove you that there is no 8.xxBTC.

He deposit 2BTC and claim the 120% first deposit bonus = 4.4BTC >>>current balance after claiming bonus

He need to wager 55x (only half of the bet amount are counted): 2.4BTC x 55 x 2 = 264BTC >>> need to wager to unlock bonus

He cancelled the bonus at 23%: 264BTC x 23% = 60.72BTC >>>amount of what he had wager
                                         264BTC - 60.72BTC = 203.28BTC >>>need to wager if he continues
He cancelled at 23% with 9.xxBTC consider it 9BTC
Assume that he continue and play with the house edge: 203.28BTC x 1%(house edge) = 2.033BTC>>>will lose upon wagering
So 9BTC - 2.033BTC = 6.967 btc >>>Total balance after wagering(again,if he continues and play against the house edge),therfore no 8.xx btc and since he cancelled the Bonus it is FAIR that the site just gave him his inittial deposit.
"(only half of the bet amount are counted)" would mean that the wagering requirement is 110x instead of the stated 55x!

110x is in contradiction to 55x and therefore not juridically valid! He has to wager 55x as I used in my calculation.

Ozafejyw782’s account stated that 23% are already wagered. But as duckdice illegally counted only 50% of the wagered amount, in reality he already wagered 46% of the 2.4 BTC bonus!

Here is the exact calculation:

2 BTC deposited + 2.4 BTC bonus + 5.08 BTC winnings = 9.48 BTC account balance.

55x wagering of 2.4 BTC bonus = 132 BTC minus 46% (60 BTC) already wagered = 72 BTC left.

1% house edge of 72 BTC to wager = 0.72 BTC loss.

If he will wager the remaining 72 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.72 BTC and his account balance will be statistically 8.76 BTC.


So please Stop asking for more and player Ozafe already accepted his 2BTC,meaning it is already solved.

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund. You can send me your bitcoin addresses in PM.

I have never been treated like that by the casino in my whole life. I strongly recommend to everyone here to avoid Duck Dice.

The case is half resolved.

As you appear to be such a clever guy, please explain me based on which laws duckdice has the right to cancel his 5.08 BTC winnings?

I do not know what is wrong with you but I think, duckdice never owe you anything right?
Correct. But as Game Protect does not act based on own claims, I do not get the sense of your question?


Why you are so persistent about this thing?
I love to inform about scams where the victim is called a terrorist. Despite of this, what a bottomless insolence to donate deposits from innocent customers!


First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.
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August 05, 2017, 05:55:14 PM
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Is there already news about what you guys do with bch?

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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

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August 06, 2017, 08:39:05 PM
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I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.
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Your balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel the bonus at any time. Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.

1) He can cancel in the middle!

2) His profit was not made with bonus funds!
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August 07, 2017, 02:15:01 AM
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2) His profit was not made with bonus funds!
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it is clearly stated that when you claim duckdice bonus, your initial deposit + bonus will be merged. the guy already got back his 2 btc initial deposit.

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2) His profit was not made with bonus funds!

it is clearly stated that when you claim duckdice bonus, your initial deposit + bonus will be merged. the guy already got back his 2 btc initial deposit.
Really?

Quote from: Duckdice bonus rule
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.

The guy was misleaded to click the |Cancel Bonus| button and wants continue to play.
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August 07, 2017, 03:08:20 AM
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2) His profit was not made with bonus funds!

it is clearly stated that when you claim duckdice bonus, your initial deposit + bonus will be merged. the guy already got back his 2 btc initial deposit.
Really?

Quote from: Duckdice bonus rule
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.


The guy was misleaded to click the |Cancel Bonus| button and wants continue to play.

im just stating that he actually profit with the help of the bonus (initial deposit + bonus merged)
and the fact that he cancelled his bonus at 23%.


duckdice already give him back his initial deposit. i think this is fair for both parties.


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August 07, 2017, 03:34:29 AM
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2) His profit was not made with bonus funds!

it is clearly stated that when you claim duckdice bonus, your initial deposit + bonus will be merged. the guy already got back his 2 btc initial deposit.
Really?

Quote from: Duckdice bonus rule
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.


The guy was misleaded to click the |Cancel Bonus| button and wants continue to play.

im just stating that he actually profit with the help of the bonus (initial deposit + bonus merged)
and the fact that he cancelled his bonus at 23%.

duckdice already give him back his initial deposit. i think this is fair for both parties.
How can you profit from a bonus that was never part of your balance?

What happened with his 5 BTC winnings?
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August 07, 2017, 04:39:36 AM
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[/quote]How can you profit from a bonus that was never part of your balance?


it will be part of your balance once you claim the bonus.

for example: initial deposit 2 btc >> claim 120% bonus = he will play 4.4 btc as his actual balance (initial depo + bonus were merged). you can only withdraw the balance "IF" you finish bonus which is unfortunately cancelled by the player at 23% wagered.

What happened with his 5 BTC winnings?
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if you can read it back , he "cancelled the bonus", most casino sites forfeit profits from bonus if the player didnt finish clearing the bonus on allotted time (1 month for duckdice bonus system) or bonus was cancelled.

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August 07, 2017, 05:19:29 AM
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it will be part of your balance once you claim the bonus.

for example: initial deposit 2 btc >> claim 120% bonus = he will play 4.4 btc as his actual balance (initial depo + bonus were merged). you can only withdraw the balance "IF" you finish bonus which is unfortunately cancelled by the player at 23% wagered.
If the bonus became part of his balance when he claimed it, then this is in contradiction to their bonus rule and therefore juridically not valid or the add was a gift of the house!

Quote from: Duckdice bonus rule
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.

If the add was in contradiction to their bonus rule, then he played solely with his deposit and if the add was a gift, they are not entitled to steal winnings!


if you can read it back , he "cancelled the bonus", most casino sites forfeit profits from bonus if the player didnt finish clearing the bonus on allotted time (1 month for duckdice bonus system) or bonus was cancelled.
There is a misunderstood on your behalf, he clicked |Cancel Bonus| but duckdice canceled his whole balance!

What most casinos do is absolutely irrelevant for his case, because his case has to be handled based on duckdice's bonus rules and based on the applicable laws.

Did Duckdice inform you about the applicable laws, so we can take a look at it?
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August 07, 2017, 06:07:20 AM
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

Yes, it was both sides fault, but I believe this case has been resolved. Everyone is moving on, the player who clicked the cancel button already got back his deposit balance, the player did not complete the wagering requirement and thus the winning should not be counted, the result is fair for both parties. Maybe the so called game-protect just can't understand how the bonus should work?   Huh Or maybe game-protect is trying to get some "donation" from Duckdice by spreading negativity?  Shocked Or maybe something else?
By the way, we can always choose to ignore the nonsense comments from game-protect, nobody knows what are he trying to achieve here.
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August 07, 2017, 06:24:47 AM
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

Yes, it was both sides fault, but I believe this case has been resolved. Everyone is moving on, the player who clicked the cancel button already got back his deposit balance, the player did not complete the wagering requirement and thus the winning should not be counted, the result is fair for both parties. Maybe the so called game-protect just can't understand how the bonus should work?   Huh Or maybe game-protect is trying to get some "donation" from Duckdice by spreading negativity?  Shocked Or maybe something else?
By the way, we can always choose to ignore the nonsense comments from game-protect, nobody knows what are he trying to achieve here.

sure ill take your advise, i should ignore this troll Cheesy

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August 07, 2017, 09:24:33 AM
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

As from our side we have cancelled bonuses for this period and reworking bonus rules and algorithm to make them crystal clear and avoid depo lost.

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August 07, 2017, 08:54:43 PM
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Yes, it was both sides fault, but I believe this case has been resolved. Everyone is moving on, the player who clicked the cancel button already got back his deposit balance, the player did not complete the wagering requirement and thus the winning should not be counted, the result is fair for both parties. Maybe the so called game-protect just can't understand how the bonus should work?   Huh Or maybe game-protect is trying to get some "donation" from Duckdice by spreading negativity?  Shocked Or maybe something else?
By the way, we can always choose to ignore the nonsense comments from game-protect, nobody knows what are he trying to achieve here.
I disagree that it is customer's fault to use features offered by a gambling site, but I fully agree that it is customer's fault to use the Duckdice scam service!
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August 08, 2017, 12:39:08 AM
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

As from our side we have cancelled bonuses for this period and reworking bonus rules and algorithm to make them crystal clear and avoid depo lost.

looking forward for the new bonus depo system. cant wait to try it out like the rest of regular players who are patiently waiting for it Smiley

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August 09, 2017, 08:55:02 AM
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.

Yeah both of them is wrong and OP already fix this by sending his initial balance back. So why does it does has anything to do woth game-protect? He just keep sending FUD here which is unreasonable. About this payment, I think it is fair enough so I do not think that game-protect need to keep on discussing it again and again. Or may be he just do not understand what I am saying here about the bonus thing
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August 09, 2017, 08:16:10 PM
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Yeah both of them is wrong...
Can you please explain why it is wrong to use a feature offered by a gambling site?

Or do you mean it was Ozafejw782's fault to use the Duckdice scam service? In this case I totally agree with you!


...and OP already fix this by sending his initial balance back.
According to your brainology, if you have a claim of 8.76 BTC and receive 75% less then the issue is fixed?

Show us that you are not lying and in future when you make a withdraw from your bank account or receive a payment, simply take only 25% for you and donate the other 75%.


So why does it does has anything to do woth game-protect?
Game Protect is the only one who assess the case based on publicly stated and applicable laws.


Or may be he just do not understand what I am saying here about the bonus thing
As soon as you show me screenshots of how you donate 75% of your claims or payments received, I will understand what you said here?
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August 09, 2017, 09:06:05 PM
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First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.
I want to mention also: If you want to claim bonus, you have to wager x55. Isn't this number a lot? Forget that, users even don't have right to cancel bonus. On normal websites user can to try his max and fight for bonus or stop this fight and get current money (without bonus) back, for example like FJ has as I know from my experience.

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