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3241  Economy / Speculation / Re: BitcoinCrystalballTrader - Bitcoin Trading Predictive Analytics on: November 22, 2013, 08:32:38 PM
This has SCAM written all over it  Roll Eyes

Agreed. High upfront cost and no trial offer of any kind. Combined with all the `hurry up, this offer is limited to 25 users` BS, it looks very shady.

guess they're doing better than expected.... says *250* users now Cheesy

Not sure if it's a scam though. From the looks of it they deliver reports. The quality of those reports could be another matter of course.

lol maybe it was 250 to begin with, I gave the site a cursory glance a couple days ago. Just features like that and `Yes! You can make a million dollars with this service!` statements kind of stand out as red flags to me.

But I thought I also read 25 when I looked it up a few days ago.

OP isn't updating in here, but if you look up his posts on the economics board you'll see (some of) the actual reports they do... they're not completely incompetent from a quick glance (mentioning for example Fibonacci Retracements), but I'm not sure at all those reports are worth  ~300USD. Looks too vague to be really useful IMO.
3242  Economy / Speculation / Re: BitcoinCrystalballTrader - Bitcoin Trading Predictive Analytics on: November 22, 2013, 08:18:06 PM
This has SCAM written all over it  Roll Eyes

Agreed. High upfront cost and no trial offer of any kind. Combined with all the `hurry up, this offer is limited to 25 users` BS, it looks very shady.

guess they're doing better than expected.... says *250* users now Cheesy

Not sure if it's a scam though. From the looks of it they deliver reports. The quality of those reports could be another matter of course.
3243  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2013, 07:33:26 PM


fucking saved :D
3244  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Various security-related questions (a lot to read, but small tip offered) on: November 22, 2013, 07:24:28 PM
First, my apologies if this is the wrong subforum. I hope the 'Technical Support' forum is the right place to ask the following questions.

A quick preliminary clarification:

I'm not completely new to Bitcoin (but not a veteran either), and I've already read a number of security suggestions/tutorials/etc. With that in mind, I want to say that I am *not* looking for 'best practice' solutions, which presumably would mean offline usage of a full Bitcoin client, creating a paper wallet, etc. This would be the most secure, I understand, but it would not be practical for me, since I actively trade. I am just mentioning it because I want to avoid being scolded for e.g. using an online computer for transfering btc. This means I am interested in *understanding* what I do right now better, and if necessary, *improving* my practices, but please note that I am not aiming for an absolute maximum of security, but a careful balance between security and usability.

Here are my questions, grouped by topic:

(1) OS security

As mentioned above, I perform transfers on an online (more about that aspect later) computer. The OS I use is whatever is the latest stable version of Ubuntu.

Question (1.1) How safe am I from attacks during runtime, that are based on OS vulnerabilites, or programs that run on my computer. Assume that an attacker has *no physical* access to my machine, but knows my IP address and attempts to target me. My knowledge of Linux isn't particularly deep, so I don't know if I'm correct in my belief that a properly patched Linux distribution like the one I'm using is more or less 'safe' from, for example, trojans/software keyloggers, etc. How safe am I really, and what can I do to be safer? :D


(2) Bitcoin client security questions

I'm using Electrum. The electrum wallet is protected by a strong password.

Question (2.1) How safe am I using Electrum as my client? I understand that Electrum is not completely trustless because I don't have a full copy of the blockchain and rely on servers that I need to trust. So how likely are attacks on me via my choice of client? For example, is there any chance I could be connected to a "dishonest" Electrum server, who will be able to re-direct my btc transaction, or double spend?


(3) Network security

There are two scenarios in which I would possible use Electrum, or trade on a Bitcoin exchange webpage: at home, and at a public place.

Question (3.1) How safe am I when I am connected to my own WiFi network at home, which is WPA2 secured? Is there a plausible chance someone in the vicinity could intercept and decrypt my communication (i.e. break WPA2), and get for example access to the account data at my exchange? (please assume again a sufficiently strong password was set at both the exchange, and for my WiFi network)

Question (3.2) How safe is a *public* WiFi connection? Assume the WiFi connection itself is *unsecured*, but the webpage I'm using is reached via https. I'm sorry to be so clueless, but I don't really know if in that case my communication with the exchange webpage is in clear text or not? Can someone (the network admin of the unsecured network, or someone else eavesdropping) intercept my communication with the exchange website in clear text and interfere with it?


That's all.

Sorry for the wall of text :D To offer a small incentive to read through all of my dumb questions and even *answer* them, I offer a 0.025 btc = 25mBTC ~= 19 USD tip to the first poster who answers all of my questions in satisfactory detail (alternatively, I'll split the tip up between answers if no single poster answers all of them). Not much, I know, but just a small token of gratitude. If you prefer not to be tipped, please say so.
3245  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2013, 06:44:38 PM
I've been trying to answer the question, "what would the S-curve representing a hyper-monetization event look like on a log scale?"

I'm starting to think it would retain its S shape in both the linear and logarithmic scales.

Typically the bottom of the S resembles an exponential function so on a log scale, it would be a straight line at the beginning, rounding to horizontal over time

Thanks.

I don't know how this idea got started, but the graph posted by justusranvier is decidedly not a sigmoid function, it appears to be an exponential function when mapped on a log chart, which would make it a super-exponential function.
3246  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2013, 05:54:25 PM


Hey there partner. We don't like your superexponential kind 'round here, y'know. Too many bad memories. *twitch*
3247  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts on: November 22, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
request 1: occasionally, the API with one of the exchanges breaks down, I guess. (quite often bitstamp unfortunately). I know you can do nothing about that. The problem is, it happened that I didn't even *know* that your site didn't pull new trade data, because the little "updated" counter kept saying "update in the last 1 second" and so on. I guess the API connection stood, but no new data came in. On my mobile device, I don't see the 'recent trades' column, so I had no way of knowing that the price btcwisdom displayed wasn't the current one. Any idea how to solve this? some change to the second counter that points out if no trades came in in the last minutes or so, and that most likely the price isn't accurate at the moment?

request 2: just increase the (candle) history size a bit... just a tiny tiny bit Tongue (sorry for nagging. I know you already answered that feature request, saying that it's too ressource intensive for now... but one can hope Cheesy)
3248  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are there any real hardcore bears? on: November 22, 2013, 04:08:32 PM
I'm overall bearish at the moment and I don't think the current market price levels are supported by anything but hot air.

The way I see it, there are 12 million BTC in existence and only a tiny fraction of that has changed hands at anything close to the current levels. Probably those with several thousand BTC have already cashed out and paid off their mortgages (and are in no hurry to sell the rest of their bitcoin holdings) but there are a lot of people with anything from 100 to 1000 BTC who are just waiting for the signal.

Also, the difficulties at MtGox, and to a lesser degree all other exchanges, has made people reluctant to cash out their coins. Mostly just miners and hardcore speculators are selling at the moment. If Gox ever gets their bank problems solved, the price is going to plummet instantly.

I really think you overestimate the importance of mtgox at this moment. Sure, they're still relevant, but they are now one of three mostly equally important exchanges.
3249  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2013, 03:36:27 PM
This loan thing is depending what is the situation. It's dumb to say that investing loaned money is absolutely wrong or that it's right. Many people spend rest of their lives in debt hell and investing some of that to bitcoin might be the way to get rid of that debt. There's risk but you have to calculate those risks based on your situation.

When you're in a hole, dig faster?

Better analogy: when you're in a hole, get some explosives. They might blow you to pieces, but maybe real world physics = FPS engine physis and you can rocket jump out of that hole Cheesy

seriously though, I don't see a difference in principle between not investing more than you can afford and not taking a loan higher than you can afford. If he knows he can repay the loan within tolerable living conditions in case his investment fails, it's not necessarily an irrational choice.
3250  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2013, 03:29:49 PM
That was my stop-loss for my small sells at avg at 635. I bought 1/2 back of that sell. Stamp.

Dude, I like your posts. Between admitting buying back in at a loss and saying (a few pages earlier) that absolute rules re: investing by taking a loan are useless, you make a lot of sense to me. /nohomo!ballsdidn'ttouch
3251  Economy / Exchanges / Re: www.BITSTAMP.net Bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC on: November 22, 2013, 03:21:56 PM
Not exactly happy long-term customer here as well.

According to my bank, my non-trivial transfer went out from their side about a week ago. Still no deposit on bitstamp :/
3252  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are there any real hardcore bears? on: November 22, 2013, 03:10:29 PM
I sold around $400. Still got my buys spread between $100 - $200 and they're staying there for a while at least.

I suspect bearishness correlates with how far out people zoom on their chart of choice (e.g. the more bearish, the more the person zoomed out)

I'm going to assume that's what you really did, so then I'm wondering: that strategy only makes sense if you assume that we're going to correct down to between 1/8 to 1/4 of the current price. Which didn't even happen in the April 10 crash in any substantial volume (don't know how much you're expecting to buy, but let's say it's more than neglible amounts). That's pretty hardcore bearish, not just "we're overbought right now and will correct back to July levels" but "we're going back more than half a year, well below the previous ATH". Would actually be really interested to hear why you think that's the case?
3253  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many btc do you have? on: November 22, 2013, 01:58:06 PM

As of late last night, 2.

I would literally suck dick to revive my Bitcoin wallet of late 2011, early 2012, where there was at times a couple of hundred coins in that wallet, which cost me less in total than the 2 I bought last night.

Hell, I would even be pleased to get the 20 back that I sold at $370 just 10 days ago.

(I hate myself)


Oh,  hi there (^_-)


8=============D
 <----this many---->
3254  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next Three Major Hurdles for Bitcoin (11-21) on: November 22, 2013, 12:34:05 PM
Your local quantum physicist may oppose calling time discrete.

lol, the chunks are discrete in order to aid our feeble brains in comprehending the perception of time, not the time itself. The chunks only exists in your linear human brain. No one was stating that the laws of quantum and/or temporal physics are in or can be represented by discrete units of chunks! RELATIVE TO HUMAN LINEAR UNDERSTANDING/PERCEPTION OF SPACE-TIME, IT IS POSSIBLE TO DIVIDE OR PERCEPTION OF TIME INTO DISCRETE CHUNKS! JESUS TAP DANCING CHRIST THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC AND WE SHOULD HAVE A 40 PAGE ARGUMENT ABOUT IT!

Besides, where will I find this so-called local quantum physicist?

If the smallest possible unit of distance is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_length
and the fastest possible speed is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light
than there is a smallest discernible time unit implying time is discrete.  However getting a quantum physicist to accept the two axioms proposed would be the challenging part.

Not completely sure it's that simple. Not a physicist myself, but from a half laymanic/half formal class on the current physical understanding of time I got the message that at least in many subfields of physics the question discrete or not would be avoided, since time is not taken to be one of the fundamental properties of their models. I am highly correctable on this one though Smiley
3255  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many btc do you have? on: November 22, 2013, 09:22:27 AM
8=============D
 <----this many---->

Not bad, huh?
3256  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next Three Major Hurdles for Bitcoin (11-21) on: November 21, 2013, 09:26:52 PM
Why use candlestick charts if Bitcoin exchanges never close???

Because both the human mind and formal algorithms need a way to divide continuous time into discrete chunks?
3257  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2013, 05:36:56 PM
[..]

Not only that but reports such big huge numbers they probably had to alter their layout just to fit them in Smiley

k, funny Smiley But seriously, do you know if btc price coverage is part of their "routine" financial program, or just a irregular feature if we hit another ATH?
3258  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
to the bears i say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ch000 ch00000 motherf0ck0rz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nice contrast:



Well, at least copper's up  Wink

Huh? NBC reports on Bitcoin price, really?
3259  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 08:44:12 PM
I love the smell of failed whale schemes in the morning.

Wait. I will call big brother.

I didn't say which whale failed. One of them will, though Smiley
3260  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 20, 2013, 08:40:47 PM
Currency of the future. My payment of xx:18 still has 0 confirmations at xx:51. Sorry I could not dump you sooner, my coins
This is why bitcoin might die soon. Because there are to many people who don't understand, that the value of bitcoin is based on the promise of fast and cheap transactions. They dream of some kind of electric gold and this will make bitcoin drop to zero.
If you can't pay your 3$ coffee without an 3$ fee, bitcoin is worth shit.

every damn time. what happened to good old "lurk moar"? here's your answer: the (highly secure) blockchain is most likely not the ideal medium for micro transfers, and probably not even for small-ish transactions like paying for your coffee. That doesn't mean Bitcoin will fail, it only means there will be ways to perform smaller transaction off the chain.
The highly secure blockchain is the right medium for small transfers. You will have to have the possibility to buy every day stuff with your smartphone with bitcoin, or it will die. Period. Off-the-chain is the most stupid shit I heard the last weeks.
Everybody is talking about regulations, senate hearings, peeing their pants whether the Chinese will accept bitcoins or whatever. But the real thread are the users/speculators who think you have to have the whole blockchain in your pocket.
Bitcoin has the ultimate chance to replace visa etc..
7 Billion people with 1-5 transactions a day, that should be the goal of bitcoin.
If this is not going to be implemented the next months I will sell out and watch one of the greatest projects in our time die.



8 year olds, dude. 8 year olds.
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