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3261  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 20, 2018, 07:37:54 AM
I sign up with my email, and BTC address is default from site, How do I prove it?  , I haven't made any withdrawals yet.

As I have already explained to you countless times via PM you cannot prove ownership therefore I cannot recover the account to you.

The default Bitcoin address is your deposit address and so therefore belongs to us. If you didn't change that to an address that you control the private key to, you didn't deposit or withdraw from an address that you control the private key to, you didn't turn on 2FA despite as constantly asking you to and then you had your email hacked there isn't anything I can do. How many more times do you need me to tell you that?
3262  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 20, 2018, 07:14:34 AM
I was hacked but I can't retrieve my account because the hacker changed the email address associated with my account.  Angry


Unfortunately for you, I also lost the email, but I have not lost my account, but now they still do not deal with bad, sadly

I tried to help but if you can't prove ownership with a Bitcoin signed message there is nothing I can do. We constantly nag you with a reminder to use 2FA. If you don't do that then your email account is the key to your freebitco.in account and if someone hacks your email they get that too.
3263  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: June 20, 2018, 07:11:45 AM
There is no way to earn merit under the current system.  Stop deluding yourselves.  The merit system here works EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE HIGH RANKING members.

That's simply untrue. https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary

1843 accounts have ranked up from Jr. Member to at least Member.

You put together a good argument but it based on your own experience. As pugman pointed out you exclusively post on boards that most people that have Merit to spend have put on ignore.
3264  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Big wins at FreeBitco.in on: June 20, 2018, 06:27:07 AM
I just won $20 at FreeBitco.in!

My user id is 5337576.

My winning seeds: https://s3.amazonaws.com/roll-verifier/verify.html?server_seed=8624c4ffbd960a5c55f289b997aaa2e5af66cc5e8b0702805708fd78078c2ba9&client_seed=
PUWEvc2vP26xSrV0&server_seed_hash=f338767764f71f611a3d0f60d4bd0e49d5ac0d7f68f76001c0040
e2b65423157&nonce=217393


12 days ago... And I still got no my 5$
Where's the money, Lebowski?

I compile a list about every 7 to 10 days and send to admin to process. The site admin has been away dealing with personal issues recently and these things have been taking longer than usual to get done. The screenshot you posted is valid so as long as the roll is from your account and hasn't been paid before it will get done soon.
3265  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 20, 2018, 05:59:54 AM
He might have initiated a Password change after they hacked his account and then regained control of his Freebitco.in account or the hacker left the password unchanged and just changed the Bitcoin address to re-direct the funds and then left.

But changing the withdrawal address needs an email confirmation as well. In short, it is not possible for what they said happened to occur unless the hacker had access to their email account or they clicked the confirmation links themselves.

I have to say it is a lot of trouble for 200k satoshi. <about $13>  Roll Eyes  Not saying that it did not happen, but I would not go through all that trouble to get my hands on $13.  Grin   The Mixer fees will absorb most of that money to mix and use those coins.  Grin

There are plenty of people that would go to that much trouble for less.
3266  Other / Meta / Re: Solve Captcha before posting in a topic? on: June 19, 2018, 02:23:15 PM
reCaptcha is the most expensive to buy solves for which is the reason so many sites chose to use it. At the moment the bots are winning the technology race against the anti-bot software developers. The new version of reCaptcha I mentioned above is an interesting development but it remains to be seen how well it will work.

Removing the incentives to use bots is the only thing that works against them at the moment.
3267  Other / Meta / Re: Solve Captcha before posting in a topic? on: June 19, 2018, 02:00:12 PM
I have suggested this some time ago but it did't had much impact here, mostly complains, but still..
you can find my suggestion here :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3781829.msg37193228#msg37193228

That's because captcha doesn't stop bots but it does inconvenience real users. Faucets use them as it imposes a cost that makes it less profitable to bot. For spambots here I don't think ~$0.001 per post would deter them.
3268  Other / Meta / Re: Solve Captcha before posting in a topic? on: June 19, 2018, 12:06:28 PM
If we calculate all the time spent by people filling the captcha all over the world, it is a useless waste of a  lot of precious time. I would also want less of it but this is not possible as webmasters and admins have to protect their web properties from spammers. May be we can have some better alternative in future.

Google is working on that with reCAPTCHA v3. It takes away the challenge part and just works on assigning a score to actions and then using that score to determine if it is a bot or not. I'm not totally convinced it will be successful as I imagine the bot writers will just work out action the site administrator has assigned as good and get the bot to do them. But it does seem at least the direction of travel is away from direct challenge captchas which don't stop bots anyway.
3269  Other / Meta / Re: Captcha on: June 19, 2018, 10:39:13 AM
The thing with reCaptcha is the more of them you do the more difficult Google makes them to solve.
Wrong.Where did you get that information from? (Being someone who constantly keeps digging deep in their new 'I'm not a Human' AI stuff, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way)

From experimentation. I've found if I keep to a low number I don't get challenged beyond the first tick. After that, if I do many in a short time they get progressively more difficult.

The rest of what you said is also true and I wasn't saying that was the only thing it uses but I'm pretty convinced from my own usage that it forms an important part of the risk analysis.
3270  Other / Meta / Re: Captcha on: June 19, 2018, 09:57:49 AM
I've just hit the captcha login. I'm using Ubuntu on a netbook, and the WiFi is at the supermarket, and it's slow and spotty. The captcha was no problem at all, just an extra couple of clicks

The thing with reCaptcha is the more of them you do the more difficult Google makes them to solve. The people complaining about the login to the forum captcha are probably running dozens of accounts and have to keep logging in and out all day.
3271  Other / Meta / Re: Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images on: June 19, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Does that mean as a copper member (auto whitelisted), we can send a maximum amount of 120 PM (be it accumulate or one shot) without any risk of getting banned?

The forum rules still apply and if you send unsolicited messages and they get reported you will still be banned.

What if you send more than that? Just curious?

You can't, it is a restriction that will stop you sending more.
3272  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 19, 2018, 07:25:26 AM
I think the basic principle of Signing a message is going over his head. Most users of this site has no idea how to sign a Bitcoin address and you can explain until you are blue in the face. A lot of them are using wallet and exchange services that do not allow for the signing of the addresses, so you will never get a signed address from them.

Hope that clears things up.  Wink

I understand that bit. The bit I'm having a problem with is how his account could be hacked.

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they changed the bitcoin address, and steal from me 200k sat.

How could he know that if he didn't still have access to the account? How did someone change the withdrawal address if he didn't acknowledge the confirmation email?
3273  Other / Meta / Re: Solve Captcha before posting in a topic? on: June 19, 2018, 07:16:31 AM
So how do the faucets make money. The advertising on their sites can't be worth anything.

It's worth the fractions of a penny they pay out.

The one I represent is a gambling site and the faucet attracts new users. So we are just paying people for the opportunity to market the gambling at them.
3274  Other / Meta / Re: Solve Captcha before posting in a topic? on: June 19, 2018, 07:01:20 AM
Thanks for posting that, I wondered how the faucets and such sites made money from captchas.

The faucet site isn't making money from the captcha the captcha solving site is. From the faucet sites point of view captcha doesn't stop bots but it increases their running costs.
3275  Other / Meta / Re: Solve Captcha before posting in a topic? on: June 19, 2018, 06:36:31 AM
Quite simple.Every captcha has an ID,the bot takes the ID of the captcha you get when you login (automatically detects it I guess) and upload it to 2captcha server (just an example of service).Next,those services also have an earning program (People solve captchas for money $0.4-$0.8 per 1000 I guess? Don't ask me why they do that for pennies -rip these poor souls) so in short,your captcha is solved by someone else using the captcha ID)
Regards
Edit: If you are interested in technical details: here

The ID is actually just the domain name of the site. When a captcha is solved they issue a token that is valid on that site for 2 minutes and then that can be passed out to a bot that is waiting for one to use.
Google could easily make some simple changes to the way reCapture works to make it far more difficult for bots. There is a remote IP field in the token but Google doesn't bother to check it.

As for the poor souls who do it, in some third world countries earning 25 to 50 cents an hour solving puzzles is an attractive alternative to being an agricultural labourer.
3276  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 19, 2018, 05:39:46 AM
I was hacked but I can't retrieve my account because the hacker changed the email address associated with my account.  Angry

They can't have done that unless you clicked the link in the confirmation email sent to the old email address.

If you PM me some proof I can try and recover your account.
3277  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 19, 2018, 05:37:37 AM
the letter does not come to the specified e-mail
if it's not you, it means good hacker took pity on me)))

Lol, why would a hacker do that. In my eyes, your account was never hacked. Anyway glad you have your account back; change your password and put on 2FA.

I've got no idea what this one is on about. None of it makes any sense. If 2FA is not on you need an email confirmation to change the password or withdrawal address, so none of the things he says are possible.
3278  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: June 18, 2018, 01:49:16 PM
wow!!! thank you I got my account back. only I can't turn on 2fa(((

I didn't do anything. Was your account even hacked? Why can't you turn on 2FA?
3279  Other / Meta / Re: Mod, please check new plagiarism: Reporting copy/pasting, please permban on: June 18, 2018, 01:04:58 PM
kabelpeggek

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bitcoin bank notes in physical form is most existing news in cryptocurrency market we can see more trust in coming days with this initiative add more positive price spike here on words

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bitcoin bank notes in physical form is most existing news in cryptocurrency market we can see more trust in coming days with this initiative add more positive price spike here on words


hennyjonh87

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While it is difficult to imagine how these banknotes will go as a means of payment, but how they can be used as bonds. The organization that issued them should guarantee their redemption at par value in the case of presentation for payment. At the same time, bitcoin, as everyone expects, should increase substantially in price. This makes it possible to use them in this capacity, than simply as a payment method for mutual settlements and we see that new forms of application of crypto-currency are being created

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Interesting in themselves and worthy of attention are Singapore banknotes with a par value of 0.01 and 0.05 bitcoins. While it is difficult to imagine how these banknotes will go as a means of payment, but how they can be used as bonds. The organization that issued them should guarantee their redemption at par value in the case of presentation for payment. At the same time, bitcoin, as everyone expects, should increase substantially in price. This makes it possible to use them in this capacity, than simply as a payment method for mutual settlements.
We see that new forms of application of crypto-currency are being created,
including their combination with conventional cash. This indicates that the crypto currency is still developing and the possibilities of its application are still enormous.


Tred6

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Referring to Bitcoin as a real competitor to the banking giant JP Morgan is not my opinion, by the way – it’s actually CEO Jamie Dimon’s.

Here is what he said in 2012: “They all want to eat our lunch… You all have read about Bitcoin, merchants building their own networks, PayPal and PayPal look-alikes. Payments are a critical business for us – and we are quite good at it.”

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https://www.investing.com/analysis/if-i-had-to-choose-one-stock-200215874
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There is no doubt that the quotes above have gone down as some of the worst in tech history. They're horrible predictions made by the print media about their new competitor, the Internet. And one's an outright lie by JP Morgan's CEO about its big competitor, Bitcoin and the blockchain.

Referring to Bitcoin as a real competitor to the banking giant JP Morgan is not my opinion, by the way—it's actually CEO Jamie Dimon's.

Here is what he said in 2012: "They all want to eat our lunch. . . You all have read about Bitcoin, merchants building their own networks, PayPal and PayPal look-alikes. Payments are a critical business for us—and we are quite good at it."



Tuyoqhh

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That's quite another revolution in the crypto world; i would just about love to have some BTC bills in my literal wallet, probably pay my tithes with it. Its a welcome innovation for me.

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That's quite another revolution in the crypto world; i would just about love to have some BTC bills in my literal wallet, probably pay my tithes with it. Its a welcome innovation for me.
3280  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Banknotes on: June 18, 2018, 12:47:44 PM
Well good luck with that! There are only 21 million bitcoins TOTAL and some of them already lost.
Printing money will not be that easy with bitcoin for you. You may happilly print US dollars, but not bitcoins.

It might be a good idea to read the thread before posting that way you would stand a chance of having a clue what you are talking about. These are disposable hardware wallets denominated in 0.01 and 0.05 BTC. As each one will be funded once and spent once it is quite possible that over time millions of them could be used.
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