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3281  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1500Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 17, 2010, 10:20:32 AM
Why so few payouts and they don't add up to 50? Are there a lot of entrants that have a minimum amount to send set so their balance is accumulating?

Yes, there are lot of rewards under threshold (many people set treshold to even 10-50 btc), so this is normal. Also few people have bigger reward than is currently in the wallet - don't forget that reward is counting directly when block is found, but it takes many hours until bitcoins arrived. So this is natural behaviour. Don't be affraid, everything works perfectly.
3282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: No coins generated in 708 hours, normal? on: December 17, 2010, 10:17:34 AM
If I want to acquire 1g of gold, there are several ways I could go about this.

Excellent! I lived for few months with Bitcoin without single bitcoin mined. Agree that mining is just part of whole idea, exactly like in real-world gold. I don't know why people are angry when somebody invest large amount of $$$ and start mining itself. Everybody can do that!

And I'm doing that because I'm geek and it is fun for me, not because of whole financial reward (by the way, my investments will be back maybe after half an year, which is my personal risk and mining reward so-so cover it). But if you are not interested in programming and hacking, simply buy bitcoins on market. It is faster and cheaper (because you don't take any risk of investment).

3283  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1500Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 17, 2010, 09:17:46 AM
To all users using email as their login: Yesterday I found a bug, when using dots in login name, getwork() result in Unknown login error. I already fixed one issue on dev environment, but I need to restart server which I will do on afternoon (after 10 hours from now in my zone). Sorry for troubles.
3284  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1500Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 17, 2010, 09:14:10 AM
Just wondering, running the miners on 3 workers at 2 MHash/s each and after 24 hours I didn't get any shares? Sounds a bit odd.

Yes it is. Please send me commandlines in PM, I will help. Do you really use SEPARATE WORKER ACCOUNTS for each workers?
3285  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1500Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 17, 2010, 08:07:45 AM
I decided to try this pooling setup, I am getting the full potential of my GPU (330M) with a bit of a swing when it is verifying the block against the server. Not bad at all. As long as you can be trusted to distribute the coins fairly according to your established rules, you are aces with me.

Welcome! Once you have long term statistics with your miner, total reward should be the same _for longterm_, so you will be able to calculate by self after few days, if participating in cluster is profitable for you. I think īt will, because equity curve will be much cleaner and you will be able to miner more coins until next difficulty level!

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What exactly do I put in the shortcut target to connect to this server? That is how I do it right, I don't go to the site given with my browser, do I?

Yes, you have to go to server and register. There are instructions on the site...
3286  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1500Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 17, 2010, 07:57:06 AM
Looks like my miner calculated the last hash. No money yet, please, run the script!

Sorry, it was night here. Script performed, this is result:

Code:
2010-12-17 08:51:59.737616
Send 7.34 to 1JdEn5LeMREmAjcAi4KWf8EX6zkubqGn55
Send 2.56 to 1A6ru2AYP9gMBpMEw63fwLqXNJ75efaBiY
Send 1.61 to 13SecR7EGTXQ4LHGWvYhbAEUbMnFpyMWHG
Send 1.22 to 1Eo51LLvhkJhxGR6oga1QkNV9a1KJsbrF7
Send 0.48 to 16yH1S6eJpj8UyLFqMVM35pbf5vXrec2c8
Initial balance: 50.03, sent total 13.21 for 5 people, time 0.4 sec

Until few hours script will be periodically so rewards will go ASAp. But don't be affraid you miss any coin Smiley
3287  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New demonstration CPU miner available on: December 17, 2010, 03:23:01 AM
Hi jgarzik, as I promised somewhere on this forum, I'm sending you my first reward from cooperative mining, because your code helped me a lot to understand, how mining works inside. So 38 BTC is yours, enjoy :-).
3288  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Pooled/Remote Mining on: December 17, 2010, 03:09:10 AM
You may be interested that we started another mining pool yesterday. Works with all standard CPU/GPU miners and we already found three blocks in one day. First block was already paid (it works differently than yours pool, transactions to users aren't directly inside block). http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.0. You are welcome!
3289  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1500Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 17, 2010, 03:05:04 AM
Would somebody be so kind as to tell me how to connect with the regular bitcoind (linux)?

Connecting with bitcoind to mining pool is not possible (yet, but it would be cool). You have to use some standalone miner (links on http://mining.bitcoin.cz). If you have only CPU, I recommend you jgarzik's CPU miner, which is on some platforms little faster than official bitcoin client.
3290  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1300Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 17, 2010, 01:03:44 AM
Yay, we solve another block. After recalculating rewards and with balance from previous block, it was possible to send bitcoins directly. Please comment, if transactions were succesfull!

Code:
2010-12-17 02:00:48.544168
Testnet: False
Send 10.44 to 1CHwovmchLYrw9gAL7DUHnReDwyKySGjqg
Send 3.16 to 124TQXntz7akAYCrUxDjLuVg7fLGTJqcgt
Send 1.1 to 181WqB1xM6cpterLN6cVkrrdoxaMjb7EWD
Send 0.06 to 14EzoKKYmHJfHTpED3XRjzD1bBATVhPyqm
Initial balance: 14.79, sent total 14.76 for 4 people, time 4.5 sec
3291  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1300Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 17, 2010, 12:47:16 AM
I just sent first rewards! Please check your wallets and confirm if transfer was succesfull!

Code:
2010-12-17 01:38:22.037611
Testnet: False
Send 16.71 to 1CHwovmchLYrw9gAL7DUHnReDwyKySGjqg
Send 8.92 to 124TQXntz7akAYCrUxDjLuVg7fLGTJqcgt
Send 7.92 to 1JdEn5LeMREmAjcAi4KWf8EX6zkubqGn55
Send 1.66 to 13TSBH4wdchsMqFTwqyLjvPES99sZ96MaP
Initial balance: 50.0, sent total 35.21 for 4 people, time 0.3 sec

In system is 10 more people which send treshold is above their current reward. Sending script looks fine, so I will setup automatic transfering during Friday.
3292  Other / Off-topic / Re: distributed off-site data storage paid for in bitcoin? on: December 16, 2010, 11:38:13 PM

No no, I meant IT works also on Windows - Tahoe-LAFS. I'm running it on windows for many months without problems.
3293  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1300Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 16, 2010, 10:24:19 PM
Yes, it was because of restart. Please ask m0mchil if he will be so kind and fix this issue. I think some network issues will be common.
3294  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1300Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 16, 2010, 09:03:20 PM
feature request:
would be nice to have the system stats available on the profile-page too,
auto-refresh is not needed, but it would be nice to just open 1page, not 2, to check how big my share is.

I already have "reward prediction" in my TODO. I think it is better as it is per-account specific. And it will need some content caching as those stats are quite database demanding.

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It would be nice to have the stats on every page. Maybe in a header, or on the side?

It is feasible once stats will be in cache (say 10-20 sec). Currently the stats are on demand.

By the way, I need to restart server, because made few changes in application. It will be a second, but we will firstly check exception handling in miners Wink.
3295  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1300Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 16, 2010, 06:52:08 PM
so if i have reward:0.01675429 i only get 0.01 and the sub-cents stay where they are?
else i will lose the sub-cents as soon as i send those 0.01 to anyone (if that's the only cent i'v got).

This is good question. Currently sending rewards is in two steps:

a) Directly after block is found, server compute shares and add reward to user account.
b) Script is running every hour (not yet, I will make first payments 'manually'), checking wallet balance and when there is something, send to user's wallets as much as possible.

Originally I tried to send whole reward (third decimal places and more), but today I made small change. Reward is rounded to 0.01 BTC and only this is sending to user's wallet. The rest after rounding remain on user's profile, so no nano-cents are lost.
3296  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1300Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 16, 2010, 06:45:53 PM
Sorry, I was talking about that reward on the account page. I never tried to edit it, and of course, it is locked so I cannot. I thought that was a configurable field of some sort.

You are right, I should change it. It really looks like config variable...

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The statistics page, could you add current server time to that? It shows when the new generation started, but it does not show how long that period of time has been.
What about also adding a field, that the server has found a total of X blocks? Cool stats to know.

Server is UTC. Better stats (listing already found blocks) are in my TODO. Currently I'm working on performance improvements (proxy etc), because, guys, I did not imagine there will be so large demand few hours after going live :-).
3297  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1300Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 16, 2010, 06:27:35 PM
Will you explain the reward parameter?

Threshold makes sense, don't send coins until I have X many.

Reward parameter though has no explanation available on the site. I do see it mentioned in the thread a couple of times but with no direct correlation to the form on the site.

It is explained on homepage - by my extremely poor English  Grin.

Reward is calculated by 50BTC * (your shares) / (total cluster shares) in one mining round (all shares are cleared to zero when block is found).

So when you found 10 shares and cluster solved 1000 shares to find a valid block, your reward for this round will be 50 * 10 / 1000 = 0.5 BTC. Okay?

Currently we are waiting when network confirm first 50 BTC to send first few rewards.
3298  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1100Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 16, 2010, 05:58:37 PM
I'm just wondering how this is going to affect other users of my shared Internet connection. I suppose those RPC requests are very small?

Yes, very small, approx. 800 bytes per request.
3299  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1100Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 16, 2010, 05:39:22 PM
hi, is there a binary zip file for the cpu miner that doesn't require installation? Thanks

I don't know. Please ask on jgarzik's thread.
3300  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (>1100Mhash/s already, join us!) on: December 16, 2010, 05:04:06 PM
does anyone know how much bandwidth this consumes? The miner is connecting via RPC to the server several times per minute, isn't it?

Bandwidth is not main concern, but roundtrips/latencies are. I'm working right now on very simple proxy application, which will pre fetch work for few seconds (say 20 sec) to your computer.  Then you will point miner to this local application. It will limit roundtrips (as there will be one request per few second) and latencies (miner will not wait to fresh data).
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