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3281  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: February 12, 2021, 03:46:28 PM
Nisam mogao izdržati a da ovo ne podijelim 😁
Na rudarenju bitcoina se potroši više struje godišnje nego što je godišnja potrošnja struje u nekim zemljama kao npr.Argentine https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=vijesti&id=2253849
"Zgodna " usporedba.
Spominje se da bi zbog toga trebalo uvesti "ugljični " porez na bitcoin   Grin
3282  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: February 12, 2021, 02:24:19 PM
Čestitka svima na "promaknucima ".
Mora se priznati;  malo nas je al' nas ima  Grin
Bestchange mi je malo prezahtjevna kampanja pa se nisam prijavio ali drago mi je zbog svih koji su upali.
Čini mi se da na forumu više nema nijedne "ozbiljne " kampanje a da nema bar 1 člana s našeg lokala.
3283  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: February 11, 2021, 08:25:43 PM
Croatian online portal Index published an article from the French L`Equipe about the upcoming changes in the competition system of the Champions League.
The UEFA Executive Board will discuss this next month.
The proposed changes should be valid from the 2024/2025 season.
Some of the proposed changes:
- One unique group with 36 clubs instead of 8 groups as of now
- Matches will be played on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays
- A total of 180 matches will be played instead of 96, which will significantly increase the income of the competition
- Each club will play at least 10 games
- The first eight clubs after ten rounds go to the round of 16, and the clubs placed from 9th to 24th place will play the playoffs for the round of 16
- Four additional places in relation to the current system will most likely be filled by 1 club from France, the champion with the highest club odds from a country that does not have a direct placement in the Champions League (Croatia?) and two clubs with the highest club odds that did not qualify for the Champions League through the domestic championship (Liverpool?).

What do you think about the proposed changes?
UEFA seems to be afraid that rich clubs could leave the UEFA competition and organize their own super league, so UEFA wants to avoid such a scenario.
It all comes down to profit in the end and rich clubs want more money and a guaranteed place in the Champions League.
Are we looking at the beginning of the creation of the European NBA League?

Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/ukidaju-se-skupine-igrat-ce-se-liga-prvaka-s-36-klubova-velika-prilika-za-dinamo/2253601.aspx

Sorry, don't have link from the original article in French L`Equipe, don't understand French. Maybe french members can help?
3284  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 11, 2021, 06:54:52 PM
Interesting article today on the BBC:  ''The summer for a bargain? Some of Europe's best players are available for free''
The list of these free players is really impressive: Gianluigi Donnarumma (AC Milan), Jerome Boateng (Bayern Munich), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), David Alaba (Bayern Munich), Fernandinho (Manchester City), Georginio Wijnaldum (Liverpool), Sergio Aguero (Manchester City), Lionel Messi (Barcelona), Angel di Maria (Paris St-Germain) etc.
Who will be the lucky winners and get these players?
It's actually hard for me to understand how it's possible that so many top footballers can leave their clubs for free.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55907793
3285  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: February 11, 2021, 03:52:39 PM
Naravno, ne znam je li točno, ali ovo me baš nasmijalo. Našao sam negdje na Twitteru, ne sjećam se gdje:

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Tesla has made more money holding bitcoin for 1 month than it has selling cars for 10 years.

Ludo kad malo razmisliš Grin
A još je luđe kada uzmeš u obzir koliko ljudi na ovom svijetu voli vidjeti lovu bez da radi krvavo za nju. Onda ti je posve jasno kako cijena može otići u nebo i napuhati se preko svih granica. Ako tako nekakav tweet završi na nacionalnoj tleviziji tek onda krene prava ludnica i zovu te svi oni ljudi koji su nekada čuli da si pričao o tom nekom kriptu. A nakon toga sljedi korekcija (bear) da izbaci malo sve te last minute FOMO investitore i očisti kripto scenu od usranih projekata.

Mislim da trenutno mali ulagači nemaju baš neki veliki utjecaj na cijenu btc;  u svakom slučaju imaju puno manji utjecaj nego  2017.
 Iza ovog najnovijeg rasta stoje veliki "institucionalni " ulagači i zato vjerujem da je ovaj rast održiviji i da nećemo vidjeti tako velike korekcije kao prije par godina.

3286  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: February 11, 2021, 07:48:06 AM
Nakon Vise, PayPala i Tesle, dolazi nam i Mastercard.

Mastercard Will Let Merchants Accept Payments in Crypto This Year

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Mastercard is planning to give merchants the option to receive payments in cryptocurrency later this year.
izvor: coindesk.com


Čini mi se da je upravo Musk najbolje sažeo ovu priču kada je negdje rekao da je Bitcoin i crypto "neizbježan" jer je to upravo ono što ljudi žele,  decentralizacija; anonimnost i slično.
To znači da je crypto tu da ostane,  neće nestati i "veliki igrači " polako to  shvaćaju, prilagođavaju svoje poslovne strategije i uskaču u taj "crypto vlak " 😀
Na kraju krajeva,  crypto je već postao vrlo ozbiljan business u kojem se vrti velika lova i nitko ne želi propustiti priliku za dodatnom zaradom.
3287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: February 10, 2021, 08:10:16 PM
An interesting article in today's Marca, ''Barcelona's 2021: Seven names to dream about... and two to cross fingers for''.
Lots of nice wishes but it's really a question of what will come true and a lot will depend on who will be the new president of Barcelona.
What do you think?
Which of the mentioned key players will really stay in Barcelona after this season?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2021/02/10/6023fda5ca4741a7248b461c.html
3288  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: February 10, 2021, 04:03:06 PM
Lijepo sam joj se zahvalio ali sad nam odnosi baš nisu najbolji  Cheesy

Pa, to mi je poznata prica. Zbog tih referala postali su poput sekte.

A onda nas nazivaju fanaticima i zanesenjacima. Pih!

Ma debili misle da ih ista sto vrtis na mobu moze izvuc iz bijede. How yes no.
Samo su prodali svoje podatke za par centi i dobivat ce gro reklama na mobu.

Kupi kineski iphone i imas isto to

Mislim da je stvar u tome da ljudi nemaju vremena ili volje istraživati o crypto valutama a onda negdje pročitaju vijest da je cijena btc jako skočila i da mnogi ljudi zarađuju rudarenjem i učini im se to kao sjajna prilika za zaradu na brzinu.
Onda od nekog prijatelja čuju da on već rudari crypto valutu na mobitelu i zarađuje i da je to "prava stvar " i odmah ulete u to,   ne razmišljajući.
U biti "žele biti dio trenda " i hvaliti se kako i oni rudare crypto valute ali si nisu dali truda i vremena da zaista "prouče materiju " i odvoje "žito od kukolja " tj odvoje očiglednu glupost i prevaru od nečega što je legalno i funkcionira.
I još se ljute ako im to pokušaš reći  Grin
Nekim ljudima se jednostavno ne može pomoći.
3289  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Sada u BiH možete kupovati televizore, telefone… za Bitcoine on: February 10, 2021, 10:19:24 AM
Ne mora da znaci, neko bi mozda zeleo da spekulise i zadrzi kripto valutu. Sve zavisi od trgovca.
Znam barem jednog trgovca koji je stavio kripto na svoju veb prodavnicu, ali ne menja, vec je hodla, jer ima dovoljno svojih para da poravna poslovni racun.

Inace, mislim da ne postoji kurs narodne banke za kriptovalute.

Mislim da je to (barem u Hrvatskoj) nemoguće jer tvrtka kad proda neki proizvod mora imati kune. Ne može imati kriptovalute jer nisu priznate kao sredstvo plaćanja. Može vlasnik trgovine ostaviti kripto koji primi, ali ona u blagajnu mora staviti svoj novac u protuvrijednosti kriptovalute u trenutku prodaje. Jer kad financijska inspekcija dođe u kontrolu njih zanima samo koliko kuna ima u blagajni, a ne koliko uz to ima BTC, ETH ili neke druge kriptovalute.

Kod web prodavnica ( primjera koji je spomenuo Stalker) je vjerojatno malo drugačiji sistem,  posebno kod indirektnog plaćanja tipa kreditne kartice,  PayPal i slično i tu novac trgovcu ne sjeda odmah, u blagajnu ili na bankovni račun.
Financijska inspekcija može utvrđivati trenutno stanje blagajne samo za one koji rade "offline " a ostalo se kontrolira na drugi način.
Što se tiče plaćanja cryptom i aplikacijom PayCek imamo tu par ljudi iz firme Electrocoin koji mogu objasniti kako to točno funkcionira za trgovca.
3290  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: February 09, 2021, 07:31:51 PM
The BBC has published the official UEFA position on the possibility of postponing the match between Liverpool and Leipzig.
We must support this decision! We are not in a good situation because of the fast spread of Covid-19. To ensure the security of all players and club management, postponing the match may be the best solution for now. There are many things to be considered on pandemic days, we cannot force to hold the match if it will be too risky for all parties and those players of the two clubs (both players of Liverpool and Leipzig).
A very strange position from UEFA. I don't quite understand why they didn't accept it at the beginning of the season. In the fall, almost the entire main team Shakhtar Donetsk was infected with coronavirus and a lot of team staff too. But the matches were not postponed.
I would interpret the statement of UEFA a little differently, that the organization reserves the right to postpone the match, but not necessarily that this will happen in the case of a match between Liverpool and Leipzig. Just in case, UEFA leaves itself room for maneuver, but in this case, it seems that we are not talking about the COVID-19 players of the teams, but about the unwillingness of the German authorities to lift the ban for Liverpool and allow them to enter the country.

The point is that each country has its own Covid rules and UEFA cannot influence the decisions of the state authorities.
As last season in the Champions League showed, the most important thing for UEFA is that all their competitions somehow end, because of the big money that is at stake here.
The German government's decision to ban matches will not stop the Champions League and other competitions, but only transfer those matches to other countries.
Regardless of all the problems surrounding Covid and border closures, the most important thing for Uefa will always be to protect their financial interests.


Well to be fair, almost any organization or company is concerned about their financial interests. UEFA is not unique here. But some of their decisions remain unclear to me. In addition, we should not forget that it is one of the most corruption organizations in sports. So it's possible that their decision could somehow be influenced.

UEFA is moving further and further away from the true fans and they showing that they are only interested in the profit and interests of big clubs like Real, Barcelona, Juve etc.
The Champions League is increasingly becoming an exclusive society for big countries and clubs and small countries and clubs find it increasingly difficult to enter there.
According to some rumors, in a few years there will be new changes in the organization of the Champions League that will allow large countries like Spain and England to have as many as 6 clubs in this competition while small countries and clubs will find it almost impossible to enter this elite club.
The Champions League is slowly becoming the NBA and those who have no money and influence will slowly fall out of that exclusive society.



3291  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: February 09, 2021, 07:17:10 PM
Daj nemojte trovati ovu temu sa tom gluposti zvanom Pi. Vec imamo temu gdje je vec objasnjeno zasto je to najobicnije govno, sere mi se cim cujem buzzwords "majnanje sa mobitelom" , "team sa Stanforda" i ostale gluposti. Jebote radije bi ulozio u onaj Bitwings nego instalirao taj app na mobitel.
Pi mreža - novi coin koji se majnuje samo mobitelom

Slažem se! Ajmo dosta s time jer nema veze s topicom, a iako smo ovdje u lokalnoj sekciji dosta fleksibilni po tom pitanju, mislim da se svima sere kad čuju za Pi.

Agreed. Tko želi 'majnati' (ili što god to već bilo) s mobitelom, neka izvoli. Nitko ga ne sprječava o tome. Ali molim vas, prestanite 'šilati' Pi mrežu kao crypto kada je očito da ona to (još uvijek) nije.



Ah ovo me podsjeti na nešto  Grin
Jedna friendica, koju nije puno ''zainteresirala'' moja priča o bitcoinu, zato se zainteresirala za priču o tome kako jednostavno instaliraš aplikaciju na mobitel i majnaš taj pi i lijepo zarađuješ dok spavaš ili radiš nešto drugo  Cheesy
Bilo bi mi još ok da je ostalo na tome ali onda je počela moliti mene i druge da također preko njezinog linka instaliramo tu aplikaciju na mob,  da bi ona došla na ''višu razinu'' u tom programu i više zarađivala.
Lijepo sam joj se zahvalio ali sad nam odnosi baš nisu najbolji  Cheesy
3292  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: February 08, 2021, 02:09:46 PM
Evo još malo zanimljive analize što stoji iza ove odluke Muska i Tesle: https://www.coindesk.com/video/deciphering-elon-decentralized-everything-is-inevitable
Zanimljivo je zaista vidjeti koliko odluka jedne ovakve svjetski poznate osobe, s puno sljedbenika online, u kratkom vremenu može jako utjecati na porast cijene btc, 13 % i više, WOW  Cheesy
3293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Australian Open 2021 Discussion thread on: February 08, 2021, 12:08:43 PM
The first big surprise happened at the tournament, Bernarda Pera, American born in Croatia, beat one of the tournament's biggest favorites Kerber 6:0, 6:4.
Due to the Covid and prolonged isolation, it is obvious that many players are not fully prepared and that we can expect many surprises in this tournament.
3294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: February 08, 2021, 11:13:40 AM




''UEFA can confirm that the Champions League round of 16 first leg between Leipzig and Liverpool will now take place at Puskás Aréna in Budapest on 16 February.''
Does this also mean that their return leg could be on neutral ground as well?

Of course not, the return match will be played normally in England, according to the schedule.
Therefore, the question of the regularity of this competition arises, because obviously not all clubs will have equal conditions.

EDIT: Prominent Italian journalist Tancredi Palmeri just posted the exclusive news that the matches between Benfica and Arsenal will be played in Rome, Real Sociedad-Manchester United probably in Turin, Italy, and Atletico-Chelsea in Warsaw, Poland.

Sources: https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1358803592010956800
https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1358806558130503680

3295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: February 08, 2021, 07:59:36 AM
UEFA has just officially announced:
''UEFA can confirm that the Champions League round of 16 first leg between Leipzig and Liverpool will now take place at Puskás Aréna in Budapest on 16 February.''

RB Leipzig 20:00 Liverpool
Right now I doubt LFC will win even if that game will be played in the moon. Their actual record is very bad while Leipzig is more consistent in its league...

I agree that Liverpool are in a very big crisis at the moment but I wouldn't write them off so easily.
Champions League is a completely different competition in which players always give their maximum and are especially motivated.
After losing to Manchester City the Liverpool players know this competition is their last chance and I'm sure they will be particularly motivated and show their best.
It wouldn't be the first time that a club that stands badly in the national championship wins the Champions League.
3296  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Serbian nationalist to be sued Over $70 Million Bitcoin Scam on: February 08, 2021, 07:46:41 AM
Fraud is a fraud, whether we're talking about fiat money, crypto, sugar, flour or anything else.
If someone cheats on me with a crypto, I also expect the person to be held criminally responsible for such a scam.
Why anything would be different?
Of course, in the case of crypto it is much more difficult to find the culprits but we see that it is not impossible.
There is no decentralisation for crime.
3297  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New to crypto on: February 08, 2021, 07:33:34 AM
New to crypto here ... so fascinated by the technology itself..

But one cant help feel with the amount of altcoins and other projects now that new commers into crypto simply feel its pointless to start becoming interested in the technology and bitcoin itself and the Satoshi story.

Definitely feel like a "late to the party person haha"

Bitcoin is only a little over ten years old, which is not much of an age lol  Grin
I think we're just at the beginning of the road and a lot of great things are still to come, so don't worry, you aren't ''late to the party''.
I also advise you to learn everything you can about this new technology and make an effort to collect some bitcoin because it will be digital gold in the future.
Welcome to the forum!
3298  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: February 08, 2021, 07:25:29 AM
~

Odlično, volim tvoje nagradne igre!

Ovo je samo moj mali doprinos da prije dođemo do 100-te stranice. Grin


EDIT:
Evo i prijave jednog posta kad sam već ovdje: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5315352.msg56293163#msg56293163


Hvala na prijavi, još nismo na 100-oj stranici pa primam i ''regularne prijave'' Smiley
Tko je slijedeći?
Što se prije prijavite, prije ćemo doći do stote stranice i nagradne igre Smiley
3299  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: February 07, 2021, 05:57:45 PM
Nakon gotovo 3 godine postojanja ova, jedna od ''dugovječnijih'' tema na našem lokalu, doći će do ''jubilarne'' stote stranice  Grin
Baš gledam prvu stranicu ove teme i pitam se gdje su nestali BTCHadzija, Ferki, tuvok007, denis-z12, Dzeronimo, katanic97 i brojni drugi.
Uglavnom, oni koji me već duže prate, znaju što sada slijedi....  Grin
Mislim da je pravo vrijeme za novu nagradnu igru da proslavimo ovaj jubilej  Cheesy
Ukratko, nagradna igra počinje kada se otvori stota stranica na ovom topicu a završava kada se otvori 101-a.
Sudjelovati mogu samo oni koji su u ove 99 stranice teme barem jednom prijavili i dobili merit od mene za neki svoj post.
Prijavite onaj svoj prijedlog za kojeg smatrate da je bio najbolji, i podijelite link od posta u kojem ste taj prijedlog prijavili.
Kada se otvori 101-a stranica prijave za nagradnu igru staju ali naravno i dalje možete prijavljivati svoje kvalitetne postove za merite (akcija koja neće nikada stati)  Cheesy
Najbolju prijavu, nagradit ću s 5 merita, a dodijelit ću i nagradu za drugo mjesto- 3 merita i treće mjesto- 2 merita.
S obzirom na neke primjedbe ranije na moju objektivnost, odlučio sam napraviti sve potpuno transparentnim, tako da će 101-a stranica biti za vaše glasanje o najboljim prijedlozima.
Glasat ćete za prvo mjesto- 3 boda, drugo- 2 boda i treće mjesto- 1 bod.
Na početku 102-e stranice, na temelju vaših ocjena i ukupnog broja bodova, proglasit ćemo pobjednike!
Neka najbolji pobjedi i neka igre počnu!

Tko se za nagradnu igru prijavi prerano ili prekasno neće biti uzet u obzir.
Molim da stotu stranicu ostavite samo za prijave za nagradnu igru i ne spamate.


3300  Other / Meta / Re: Request for Nigeria local board on: February 07, 2021, 05:33:02 PM
In addition to what Charles_Tim had aired out, Nigerians are one of the most active users in the bitcointailk forum that had contributed positively for her development, in the recent time, we have about 500+ active members if I'm not mistaken and we keep having new members that comes in on a regular basis and more to be coming.

I came across similar thread long time ago by a user requesting same for Nigerian local board, I came to realize that Nigerians infact African as a whole weren't active enough to form a community at that time, now we have accumulated up to 520 replies and 11722 views with up to 27 pages in our community hangout discussing crypto related topics in our understood pidgin language at the moment.

My explanations above might not be convincing enough but it shows some slight improvement more than before, It's high time we get what we are requesting for.

Edit:
Here are some active Nigerian members in the forum,[members upward]

S/NActive usersRank
_____________________________________________________________________________
1.CryptopreneurBrainbossLegendary
2.Becky666Full member
3.MpamaegbuSr member
4.YourhomeboyMember
5.Sharon121212Full member
6.Upgrade00Hero member
7.Leonardo7Member
8.nelson4lovHero Member
9.SoldierswitlittlefaithMember
10.Gozie51Sr Member
11.posiHero Member
12.Charles-TimSr Member
13.JosefjixMember
14.Alobo RealerMember
15.Maestro75Full member
16.BIT-BENDERSr Member
17.OshosondyFull member
18.gabbie2010Sr Member
19.LordhermesSr Member
20.GeorgeJohnFull member
21.SmartvirusFull member
22.TraderbtccFull member
23.abdulodoiMember
24.awawoMember
25.Fivestar4everMVPSr Member
26.MiaallenMember
27.BlackpussyMember
28.BIN-BINMember
29.ololajuloSr Member
30.CryptocurencyKingFull member
31.CrptomagmaMember
32.OnuohakkMember
33.Pokapoka124Member
34.thereaderMember
35.igehhhFull Member
36.LmaoooMember

Judging by this list and the personal reputation of the members, the request for a local board is really justified.
I'm an active member of the Croatian local board and throughout this time I realized how important this local section is for our local members.
First of all, not all members speak good English and some of them are avoiding the English part of the forum.
Local community members have a better understanding of the local situation and can give better advice on local options for selling or buying crypto, or finding stores that allow you to buy products or pay for services with bitcoin etc.
Local members can even arrange social gatherings or meetings as we already had in our local part of the forum.
Based on all this, I believe that if some basic conditions are met, all local communities, including the Nigerian one, should get their local board and I support that.

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