Unfortunately the way things work in China is that *no-one really knows* (apart from those actually *in power*).

If you are at all worried then I would advise moving coins *offline* until after mid-April - it's very hard to say what will happen then but the "Chinese New Year" *deadline* did not see anything stop at all.

Let me just say that "Turing complete" is *just that*.

Nxt AT will be "Turing complete" so *anything that Ethereum can do* will also be able to be done using Nxt AT (subject to API restrictions which you could think of as *sandboxing*).

Where Ethereum has *got things wrong* is that they are going to make *every tx Turing complete* which is *costly*.

Nxt is actually *smarter* to leave *normal txs* just being done as quickly as possible.

10K just sent.

I am sending people TestNXT not *real NXT*.

bu ke qi.

10K sent your way too.

10K just sent.

I think that CfB's unanswered question is something we can use to our advantage (others *in the loop* already know this).

Fair enough - it wasn't intended as *bragging* but let's just see how it *plays out*.

I seriously doubt that - I have had *many more years* experience than he has as a "software engineer" (and was initially invited to *join* Ethereum by Charles).

True - although luckily as a foreigner I don't need one of those - they are a big nuisance for Chinese though and rather hard for foreigners (especially westerners) to even *understand*.

BTW the restriction of 50K USD applies to foreigners here also (experienced that personally).

Yup - also for foreigners living in China it is *possible* to get a residency card (as opposed to a "temporary residence permit" which you otherwise need to have to legally stay in China) although that is not easy at all (I have only met 1 foreigner who has one of those which he only got after several attempts and who has lived in China over 25 years and ran a multi-million dollar business here employing 30+ Chinese workers).

I also agree with most of what zhangweiwu is saying - so it will be interesting to see exactly *what happens in mid-April*.

I would also not be surprised if things just keep going on as they did after Chinese New Year (and that this just keeps coming up every quarter as a way of "keeping people from feeling comfortable" using Bitcoin exchanges here).

Indeed the *biggest* concern the Chinese government really has with Bitcoin (and others) is capital leaving the country.

Hmm... can't change that even if I wanted to now on Bitcointalk.

My turn to fix yours!

Ah yes - I forgot all about P2SH stuff but that makes perfect sense to me now. Thanks.

I learned to type on a "typewriter" but I never used *two spaces* so am not sure where that idea came from.

(I am 46 so I guess that makes me a good candidate to be BCNext also)

It seems that I hadn't paid proper attention about the idea of the random numbers that were being suggested (they are actually hashes of random numbers with the *actual* numbers being delivered later).

I am now starting to warm to the idea (provided that the range of these numbers is large enough - say 64 bit at least).

So let's to the heart of the matter - a forger can always decide *not to forge* and we simply cannot stop that (sure the account can be penalised but of course that forger will probably have other accounts so it doesn't really hurt them much if the have divided up their stake amongst many accounts).

We *can't* fix that - all I am trying to stop anyone from being able to "predict their lottery ticket value" but calculating the expected TF results.

By including some other information we can add a small amount of entropy which will make that future prediction impossible so at least no-one can "time the purchase of their ticket" to get an advantage.

Of course when it comes to the block when your ticket is going to "appear" that forger *can* affect the ticket values (for everyone who bought a ticket 1440 blocks ago) so a "nefarious forger" can always *stop you from getting a winning ticket* if they want to (unless you can see a way to prevent that) but at least that doesn't guarantee that they *will* have the winning ticket (the main reason to even try and game it).

Yup - (that's why I wrote X rather than 1 for starters) - I think an approach that would require being in control of forging multiple blocks in a row would be the best strategy for defense here.

For example if we included # of transactions until X - 3 then balance of txs until X - 2 then say number of even account numbers used until X - 1 (or some other such ideas spreading perhaps over 10 blocks or more) then might have something with just "too many variables" to be cheated unless you control that vast majority of forging power.

If that information applied to only 1440 - X blocks (where perhaps X is just 1) then the forger of block 1440 can't really do anything to affect the outcome apart from *not forge* (which TF as originally planned would result in penalty).

(sorry - I didn't get that right before)

Note that this extra entropy is just to make sure we can't predict the lottery ticket *even if we could predict the forging hash 1440 blocks in the future*.