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3301  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much is a LOT of BTC? on: February 04, 2015, 03:02:02 PM
Few years ago 10.000 coins was not much, remember the pizza guy?

At this time you can start youre own pizza house with that amounth.

If you dont got a fat fiat wallet and you can only affort 1 Bitcoin...that 1 coin can be a life changer within 10 years.

3302  Economy / Speculation / Re: Here we go, china dumping massively on: February 04, 2015, 02:55:45 PM
This is pathetic, Bitcoin drops with a whopping $8 and the troll(s) are comming from there cave screaming fire!
3303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2015, 01:16:33 PM
finex holding 240

There is still hope

Well, if you're trading on hope I have one advice.

SELL and don't trade anymore.

everything is waiting for the next bull blitzkrieg.

more than 1 year without one Sad
True but it might be more difficult this time with more people leveraged shorting the hell out of it.
True but it might be easier this time with more people leveraged longing the hell out of it  Wink
I'm gonna tell you a secret: The fact that price went into bubbles in the past doesn't mean that it will continue to do that.
Speculative pump&dumps and bubbles don't go on forever.

I know, it's shocking.


3304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are you ready for the ride of your life? on: February 02, 2015, 06:29:32 PM
There won't be another bubble. Last bubble to $1000 was due to Chinese. There is nobody else.

3305  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: February 02, 2015, 02:27:27 PM
Notlambchop got a IQ of a empty nutshell.

3306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Something really fishy about the media couverage on: January 28, 2015, 06:43:34 PM


3307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 01:19:13 PM
When is the official CoinBase announcement?

I'm hoping for another pump.

https://www.coinbase.com/lunar

says 46 minutes left... to da moon?

When the timer runs off i expect some firework Grin
3308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don't rely on Venture capital money - these guys don't know what they're doing on: January 23, 2015, 02:45:36 PM
"Nobody has any interest in using Bitcoin"
=> Network grows exponentially, 5 years in a row
Does that give an indication that the number of people owning bitcoin but especially USING IT AS A CURRENCY (and not just for speculative purposes as an end to itself) is anyway significant? No. The only indication of how many people owning bitcoin is this:
https://bitscan.com/bitnews/item/how-many-people-really-own-bitcoins-and-why-does-it-matter

Low numbers, and that was in january-february 2014, any new guys coming in that were not traders got screwed with it because of price.
Don't know how many more people actually got into the game and stick to it after that.

Aside from reasons related to drugs or child pr0nz or wild speculation (profitable and easy trading of a volatile asset), who is using BTC? Mostly people who already own bitcoin for these purposes.

Why should the average Joe buy bitcoin and use it as a currency, if he is not interested in the use cases I just mentioned?
I mean, why are you here? Why do you own bitcoin? For speculative purposes amirite?
Me too tbh, to trade it.
Now why should the average Joe give two shits about all that?

-as a store of value? bitcoin is a shitty store of value, you said it yourself in a post recently. And 2014 clearly shows it (a whole year of terror if you hodled like a fool).

-because no fees? Volatility can fuck that over real good, so no point in saving 1-3% when you can lose 10-30% in a few days. You might argue that over time (IF bitcoin succeeds) volatility will gradually decrease. While I have doubts about that, in the long run bitcoin transaction fees will be higher anyway. I guess you know that miners “need to be paid” in order for bitcoin and the blockchain to exist, whether thanks to ridiculous inflation, or transaction fees. The blockchain is not gratis.
Peter Todd said it himself: “regarding fee economics, we’re fucked”.


So why should the average Joe put up with bitcoin’s volatility and the possibility of having his funds easily stolen (if he has to move his money around, you can’t just keep it in cold storage forever you know) and no consumer protection?
Why?


For musical chairs-ponzi speculative purposes or drugs or child pr0nz, that’s why. But guess what, not enough people care about that to justify a high BTC price.


The masterplan for bitcoin’s world adoption and earth domination might not work out as expected I’m afraid…




==> "Okay, nobody other than a few nerds and libertards is ever going to use or accept Bitcoin"
===> Microsoft online, Overstock, Dell, Newegg
====> "They don't really accept Bitcoin, they convert most of it to USD immediately. Big money despises Bitcoin."
======> $75 million investment in Coinbase, by New York Stock exchange, among others
=======> "They don't actually think Bitcoin is useful or is going to stick around.
As you said, these companies "accepting bitcoin" is just self-promotion and marketing, since they actually DON'T really accept bitcoins.

Who said “big money dislikes bitcoin”? Some big money bought it and is now bagholding it, as I showed in my first post.
Not only that, but VC money can easily fail, these guys are humans and not perfect. Like Tim Draper, Bill Miller, Barry Silbert and others. But most importantly, NSYE invested in an exchange not in bitcoin itself, that simply doesn’t imply that bitcoin price will be higher and that it won’t crash.
Simple as that.

They invested in an exchange in the cryptocurrency space.

What is other big money/names saying about the cryptocurrency space for example?

What is the Federal reserve bank saying about it?
Let’s have a quick look:

http://newsbtc.com/2015/01/22/federal-reserve-bank-vp-acknowledges-ripple-bitcoins-original-ledger/

What about Bill Gates about saving the unbanked and giving them access to financial services?
Let’s check it out:

http://www.coindesk.com/bill-gates-bitcoin-alone-wont-solve-global-payments-challenges/

To return to my dotcom bubble analogy, yes, bitcoin = world.com, pet.com


Now, the ripple network better represents the “internet-dotcom” analogy because it’s simply a technology (sure there is XRP the currency, but it’s not necessary to give a fuck about that as opposed to bitcoin in the blockchain system, which is a flawed concept), like the internet.

Ripple is just an example that takes what is promising about distributed ledger technology but without all the fuck ups (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=927036.msg10177316#msg10177316) that make the bitcoin blockchain not viable long term and without the NECESSARY incorporated pets.com get-rich-quick-but-without-a-real-purpose ponzi investment (bitcoin).


The analogy of the internet works because bitcoiners represent the dudes that during early internet days wanted to buy “shares of the internet”, but since you can’t technically do that, they stick to pets.com because at least that investment could make them rich quick, in theory.
The analogy works perfectly.

It’s pretty understandable why bitcoiners don’t like ripple the network. Right?


Again, ripple is just an example. Others projects in the cryptocurrency space might come up with something similar and better, replacing the ripple network and become “the internet” of my analogy.
I’m not promoting the ripple network itself, just to be clear.

Again; bla bla bla bla bla bla pure 100% horseschit.

Go read this idiot; http://www.nasdaq.com/article/big-wall-street-players-investing-in-bitcoin-startup-cm435611#ixzz3PeetWZxz
3309  Economy / Speculation / Re: NYSE invests in bitcoin ecosystem on: January 23, 2015, 02:21:00 PM
Major news, getting very exited about it!

But impressive as it is, Wall Street's sudden desire to invest in Bitcoin is only one sign of bigger things to come for Bitcoin in 2015...

They must see tremendous potential in Bitcoin to dump millions of dollars into cryptocurrency startups. And now traditional investors are seeing that potential, too.

The number of merchants accepting Bitcoin exploded from 36,000 to 82,000. The number of Bitcoin wallets more than doubled from 3.19 million to 7.95 million. Bitcoin ATMs went from just four to 341.

"In the beginning, you get these wild speculative types, then slowly the numbers get bigger, then the suits move in," Glocer, the former Thomson Reuters CEO, told The Wall Street Journal . "And you wake up one day and it's a billion-dollar business."



Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/big-wall-street-players-investing-in-bitcoin-startup-cm435611#ixzz3PedXhpAG



2015 will be so awsome, buy youre extra (full) coins now before waking up somewhere in this year and its all gone with this uber cheap coins.
3310  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don't rely on Venture capital money - these guys don't know what they're doing on: January 21, 2015, 02:46:00 PM
I see  a lot of people in here getting excited about VC money being poured in the bitcoin space (like the NSYE news) and taking it as some guarantee that the bitcoin's price is gonna go to the moon because of that.

Wrong.

First of all, some of them are investing in bitcoin exchanges, not in bitcoin itself. BTC price could crash to $10 and exchanges would do fine. Bitcoin "investors"? not so much.

Secondly, some of the VC guys investing in this space don't know what they are doing or what they are really getting into.
Now permabulls will probably shout at me something like:
-"you troll! We are talking about Citi CEO and NSYE! Do you think you know more than them of what's going on? Hahaha"

K.


Let's take a few examples shall we?

Tim Draper. Big VC guy, billionaire. He bought BTC in the millions at $500-600. Then he posted on twitter stuff like: "if I was Russian I would buy bitcoin right now". Right before the ridiculous BTC crash.

Does it look like he knows what he's doing?
No.

What about Bill Miller? I have enormous respect for the guy, but he bought BTC at $500. Let's be honest, he screwed up big time.

What about Barry Silbert and his fund investors who can't liquidate their holdings from the fund and they are stuck with their bags?
Did he fuck up? You tell me.

Those guys are now public Bitcoin BAGHOLDERS. We are not talking about small percentages. They lost millions.

Oh, and they invested on bitcoin directly, unlike others who invested in exchanges, who are not technically dependent on the bitcoin price to rise...


You still think you should take VC money as a guarantee that nothing can go wrong (it can easily fail by definition FFS)?  Or even better, as a guarantee that any VC money in exchanges is gonna make bitcoin's price go to the moon even if the two are not directly related?


There was a lot of VC money during the dotcom bubble too. Just sayin'.

Bla bla bla bla, what a huge pile of bullschit. How much money do you earn by doing this?

You must have a schit life isn't it?

Op is right,
Coinbase is a payment service allow bitcoiners to cash out
They got funded they make a better way for you to cash more fiat out of bitcoin, cashing out more money invested in bitcoin means push bitcoin's price even lower
Coinbase is going to earn payment fee until bitcoin hits almost $0 (lower price, more volume = same fee)

Grabbed youre 2e troll acount to back up yourself?
3311  Economy / Economics / Re: World War 3 has already begun, but it's an economic war, not a conventional one. on: January 20, 2015, 06:19:04 PM
The U.S.A knows that there fiat system wil bust sooner ore later, bitcoin ore crypto in general can solve that problem Wink

3312  Economy / Speculation / Re: I told you Bitcoin would collapse and now I will tell you why on: January 14, 2015, 02:53:42 PM
Bitcoin went from $32 to $2 ore $266 to $70....

Now we went from $1200 to rockbottom ~$150, same stuff happening, i expect a new bull market sooner ore later.

Yes, but not in 1 day, in 1 year, a different type of speculation imho

From bull to bear market, each with other timelines but in the end the circle will being restarted again.
3313  Economy / Speculation / Re: I told you Bitcoin would collapse and now I will tell you why on: January 14, 2015, 01:03:35 PM
Bitcoin went from $32 to $2 ore $266 to $70....

Now we went from $1200 to rockbottom ~$150, same stuff happening, i expect a new bull market sooner ore later.
3314  Economy / Speculation / Re: "Bitcoin is dangerous, avoid it" - Gavin Andresen on: January 12, 2015, 05:19:31 PM
I want to read the ''Analysis page 16''
3315  Economy / Speculation / Re: The towel is in the ring. on: January 12, 2015, 01:02:32 PM
Because if you still didn't get it, the Cyprus bail-outs (for example) were just an hype excuse for a bitcoin pump&dump. Pretty much nobody from Cyprus actually started putting money in fucking bitcoin.

Noob, it's not about the Cyprus ppl but the fact ppl around the world dont trust this fiat scam + corrupt goverments.
3316  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does $280 makes you hope again? on: January 08, 2015, 01:13:13 PM
In a single digit range Bitcoin
...
store of value, a digital asset with sound money properties.
...

LOL Bitcoin was the worst investment of 2014, 85% lost, it will soon be 99% lost along with this downtrend

Your sums are wrong little troll.

Guys dont feed the troll, hes Faillling/Fewcoins. Same typing same BS.
3317  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worst investement 2014 on: January 08, 2015, 01:11:26 PM
He blames bitcoin for buying in a bubble. Congratulations!

Hes a noob, i dont care if he sells now and lost his money.
3318  Economy / Speculation / Re: If it goes to $275, are you going to keep faith or just give up save the little. on: January 06, 2015, 01:15:58 PM
Dumb holders will keep holding til 1$ despite professionals telling them how stupid they are being.

Oh well, dumb deserve the worst fate.

Family reunions will be fun, won't they?

Wich professionals? How old are you? you sound like a 12 years old kid whos crying for his lollypop, just Pathetic.

Ignored.
3319  Economy / Speculation / Re: $10,000 when? on: December 29, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
$10.000 within 5 years.
3320  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stop your BTC cheerleading and mass delusion and face the reality on: December 29, 2014, 06:11:07 PM
crypto currency is mainstream.

You are so wrong and needs a real reality check.


Oh no, another troll who whants to get in cheaper...
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