DB- Why are you making up sht about Peeps? Those are affiliate links.
He needs to be untruthful to justify his rating. His poll and posts should pertain to DirectBet and not Peepsplace. At peepsplace we help new players that are just starting out with bitcoins to get into the bitcoin books. The ratings here have nothing to do with banners over at Peepsplace. When DirectBet takes down the poll it would help them to stay on topic here. Something should be done about their theoretical hold. It's the highest, worst for the player, in the business for live betting. |
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Directbet You told me 5 minutes ago that you don't post emails. You asked me for my personal information 5 minutes ago and I'm glad that I didn't give it to you. Don't trust these guys. They stuck it to me by keeping my bet 30 minutes. Now they will come up with an excuse for posting emails. I can assure you all your bets and e-mails will be kept confidential. You misquote me. I started the message by saying that we don't take any matter to the public unless the client does it first. We never delayed a bet for 30 minutes. I asked you for the bet ID so that we can look into your claim but you did not want to provide it so I can't help you. Talking bread- Do not trust these guys. I didn't bring anything to the forum before DirectBet posted my emails. To be fair, he only posted your email to prove you attempted to extort 1-2 bitcoins a month from him. There is no extortion. All good books were offered a price of 2 bitcoins/month to advertise at Peepsplace.com. bitcointalk has nothing to do with peepsplace.com The 2 bitcoins is to convert cash players to bitcoin players. We also go to other cash forums for advertisers. There is an untapped wealth of gamblers at the cash forums. We can definitely help to convert. We aren't here at bitcointalk to recruit players. We just post with this community. |
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Looks like DirectBet has derailed us all again.
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The website Peepsplace has nothing to do with bitcointalk. At Peepsplace we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players.
At bitcointalk we just want to be part of the posting community.
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Directbet You told me 5 minutes ago that you don't post emails. You asked me for my personal information 5 minutes ago and I'm glad that I didn't give it to you. Don't trust these guys. They stuck it to me by keeping my bet 30 minutes. Now they will come up with an excuse for posting emails. I can assure you all your bets and e-mails will be kept confidential. You misquote me. I started the message by saying that we don't take any matter to the public unless the client does it first. We never delayed a bet for 30 minutes. I asked you for the bet ID so that we can look into your claim but you did not want to provide it so I can't help you. Talking bread- Do not trust these guys. I didn't bring anything to the forum before DirectBet posted my emails. DirectBet became upset when we took down their affiliate banner and attacked us in our thread. |
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Whatsbitcoin This bet was prevented from being a winner because of Directbet's problems...now i remember why I stopped betting with Directbet yesterday. I sent the money within 30 seconds of this bet being offered and chosen... however...it wasn't accepted until 5 minutes later when the game had less then 1 min to go AND was at 1.02 odds for no goal. The bet would have won... http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1EwHLtr49ag914divciq2WQT48VzeYr3UC |
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Directbet You told me 5 minutes ago that you don't post emails. You asked me for my personal information 5 minutes ago and I'm glad that I didn't give it to you. Don't trust these guys. They stuck it to me by keeping my bet 30 minutes. Now they will come up with an excuse for posting emails. I can assure you all your bets and e-mails will be kept confidential. If someone was trying to blackmail you into giving them money or else they would hurt your business AND you have proof, I am positive you would also post that proof. Not all situations are equal. DirectBet is lying about the blackmail. The emails show that he lies. He also just posted information on my last two bets. You asked him for 2 bitcoins per month to advertise for him. He said no. You then lowered it to asking for 1 bitcoin per month. He said no. Now you are trying to hurt his business. At one time DirectBet was a good book. The hold was low and they had no problems. Things changed and they became a bad book. We took down their affiliate banner where we were getting paid 1%. Then DirectBet became upset because we took their banner down at Peepsplace and went on a smear campaign. |
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Directbet You told me 5 minutes ago that you don't post emails. You asked me for my personal information 5 minutes ago and I'm glad that I didn't give it to you. Don't trust these guys. They stuck it to me by keeping my bet 30 minutes. Now they will come up with an excuse for posting emails. I can assure you all your bets and e-mails will be kept confidential. If someone was trying to blackmail you into giving them money or else they would hurt your business AND you have proof, I am positive you would also post that proof. Not all situations are equal. DirectBet is lying about the blackmail. The emails show that he's lying about it. He also just posted information on my last two bets. |
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Lies again. It's nice to see you back to posting emails. All books ratings were decreased. Posters asked for books to have a top grade based upon time in business. Because of poster request, books in business less than a year were downgraded if they were rated "A" or "B".
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New Poll
Please take a moment to vote :
Do you think that Peeps Place has the right to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, given that those he rates the highest are paying him to advertise and promote them ?
Yes or No ?
Ratings aren't paid for. We put up banners for top books. Our reputation would be hurt if we put up an affiliate banner of a bad book. We could put up an affiliate banner for every book if we trusted the book. We don't trust DirectBet. Many posters have echoed our feelings of mistrust with DirectBet. |
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tins directed towards DirectBet I sent an email with my 3 bets that didn't pay out last night until after I went to sleep, causing me to miss funds for additional bets. I asked for the .01btc bet to be placed on bet ID: 18re5ZZMAeD5uy4hZas5umLjonsQM7t1fv (BJ Penn over Frankie Edgar).
My email was not answered and the 0.01 btc was not put on this bet for me.
I could PM my email address to you if need be. I sent the email at 10:47am central time and included the transaction details of the 3 bets that were not settled anywhere close to within an hour after the UFC fights last night. |
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Here are all the complaints the last couple of days with DirectBet. 7/4 ts11111 fortunately had a screenshot You are blatantly lying to justify not confirming my Fischer bet at 5.6.
You say it was never at 5.6, but I ordered it and it automatically populated the current odds of 5.6
Check my screenshot - I have never ordered a bet and typed in 5.6 as my desired odds.
7/4 This is my complaint. I understand DirectBet's point of view that the bet didn't enter the blockchain until 7 minutes after I sent it. That still is a problem since it can be hours instead of 7 minutes ....... I placed an order at 17:45. I received a bitcoin address and sent the money at 17:45. DirectBet acknowledged that I sent it at 17:45. Now he is saying that he didn't know. He accepted it 7 minutes later. There is no reason for us to wait 7 minutes before knowing if DirectBet is going to accept the bet. 7/4 ts11111 in response to DirectBet. ts11111 may have not been right but it's the posted lies by DirectBet that are worrisome. LIES!!!!
Per your email from last night:
"The odds never reached 5.6. 4.6 was the highest until you canceled the bet.
It's possible that you didn't refresh the page and saw outdated odds." 7/4 wow really? im never using DB again if they dont fix this for you ts111 thats bogus 7/5 Talkingbread I may be your biggest player but I'm not letting you hold my BTC7 for half an hour until you decide bet. My BTC now goes to books with instant confirmations. 7/5 Josepht 7/5 ts11111 and then reply by RyanK yeah same... wtf? DirectBet today. Their wallet was clogged so confirmations took 3 minutes. According to our records it took 3 minutes from the time that you ordered the bet on our website to the time it was confirmed.
Apparently part of the delay was because our Bitcoin wallet was clogged as at that particular moment we received an unusual number of bets on this game simultaneously.
I'm sorry for the short delay, we are working to improve this. Today cc5t Whats going on with the site? Seems to have went down during the UFC fight and now I havent been paid my winnings? Today cc5t just sent an email. It has been over 3 hrs since the ufc ended Today Grumpster If you had accounts and ways to deposit to the account (they could be optional and you could keep the current system as a secondary one) then people wouldn't face this problem anymore and nobody would need to complain about the change of odds during the time it takes for the transaction to register and the system to confirm the bet. |
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There isn't one rating guide that that I've seen that puts DirectBet ahead of Anonibet or Nitrogen.
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You have high limits and a player may make a 20 BTC without getting immediate confirmation if the bet is good or not. He may have to wait one hour, because of a software flaw that you have before getting a bet confirmed. The player isn't allowed to cancel the bet during this waiting period.
Bets are either confirmed or rejected instantly, as soon as they are received. If you are concerned that your bet transfer may be delayed by your wallet, and want an option to cancel your bet if it arrives later than planned, we do offer such an option. You can order a negotiated bet and set the odds to 1000 (unrealistic). Then wait for your bet to arrive. Once your bet arrives and is set to Negotiate state, if you are no longer interested in the bet, you can cancel it. If and when you are interested in the bet, change the odds to the current odds and your bet will confirm instantly. By doing it this way, you will have full control on when your bet is confirmed, just like you have with deposit books, and with an option to cancel your bet if it arrives late. We would have to beat you to the punch to cancel negotiated odds. If a player wants to do that they should bet at an exchange with much better odds than you offer. DirectBet should just cancel orders if not accepted within 30 seconds instead of leaving us at your mercy with what could be hours with firm odds because of delays with the wallet, blockchain or DirectBet. |
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If all goes well with the World Cup, Casinobitco.in will be getting an upgrade now that they have been in business over one year. No official upgrades were made during the World Cup and will not be made until after the World Cup.
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DirectBet- Those are all lies that we have been over numerous times. I have told you, and the books can confirm, that no one pays me to post at bitcointalk. Please stop with the misinformation. Posters in your thread are posting that you lie. You don't see this with other books. None of the other books are claiming, "foul" with the ratings other than you.
Book information is what is relevant and no one is getting stiffed by a book or slow paid at this time other than "D" rated books. If that happens, it will be reported and it doesn't matter which book it is. The biggest problem that I see right now, and posters deserve to be warned, is with DirectBet.
You have high limits and a player may make a 20 BTC without getting immediate confirmation if the bet is good or not. He may have to wait one hour, because of a software flaw that you have before getting a bet confirmed. The player isn't allowed to cancel the bet during this waiting period.
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Please post any books that aren't listed.
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Betcoinsports C (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC
NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
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DirectBet has had 3 cases in the last few days where player's money was held in limbo for up to 7 minutes. I understand DirectBet's point of view in that they cannot accept the bet until it hits the blockchain and that there can be delays that aren't the fault of DirectBet. That excuse still doesn't help the player since our money can be out of our control without us knowing if we have a bet until the conclusion of the game. There has now been another problem where DirectBet held the money not telling the player if he had a bet or not.
I've had my personal disagreements with DirectBet as well as unprofessional communications. I put all of that aside when grading books and posting information concerning a book. That said, it's not recommended to bet a substantial amount of money with DirectBet since they have delays that can be easily fixed. DirectBet should not allow bets to be open for extended periods of time. They have the ability to cancel bets after an order has been placed but for some reason their system currently allows for these bets to be open until the game is final and we don't have the ability to cancel it. Deposit books are a much better avenue for live bets than DirectBet.
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Upgrade notice from Nitrogen. Hey everyone,
We wanted to take a moment to talk about the downtimes we experienced in the month of June. A lot has happened over the last month, and we know that most hasn’t necessarily been “visible” to you, our users.
We experienced a large increase in our user base, and we’ve been working through some growing pains. On June 14th, some of you may have noticed the website start to slow down during peak hours, especially during the chat giveaways.
Since then, we’ve completely upgraded our server architecture and hardware - this was completed on June 20th.
This upgrade has virtually eliminated the slowness issues we were experiencing, and ensures that we’ll be able to more seamlessly handle growth in the future. The server upgrade was a big project (with a lot of moving parts) and was the cause of some of the additional downtime to a portion of our users this past weekend. We do our best to anticipate these types of issues and to let you know when we plan downtime. Unfortunately, on June 29th we missed updating the forums for that period. While some of our users may not have been affected, we would like to apologize to those that were.
In addition to the scaling / user growth side of things, as we’re getting more popular, we’re also having to deal with more frequent DDOS attacks. One of the largest was experienced by our host, and international routing channels were actually switched over due to the size of this attack. We were not the only book that felt this, as several very large FIAT books in Costa Rica were also affected during the same period.
Again, for everyone affected, we absolutely share your frustration. Nothing is worse for us than the website going down. We’re always working to bring it back up, as well as keeping you notified here and on Twitter as quickly as possible.
While we may not have seen the last of these growing pains, we do want to thank everyone that has stood by us during the issues last month. The larger we can grow the community and the more mainstream bitcoin becomes, the better it is not only for us, but for you as a bitcoin user as well.
We’d like to take this opportunity to announce a new feature on Nitrogen: “bet coupons”. Coupons are free bets that you can make on your Nitrogen account. They cost you nothing, and you get to keep whatever you win: no rollovers, no further betting requirements. We’ll be giving free bets away over the coming weeks on Twitter, the forum and in our chat room as we perfect them based on your feedback!
As a first trial of these coupons, we’ll be awarding some to the frequent users who bet with us during the month of June. If, during June 11 - July 1 you made at least 20 wagers on Nitrogen, then we’ve already credited your account with a free bet coupon. The value of the coupon is based on your average bet size during that period, up to a maximum of 0.1 BTC.
If you missed the 20 bet requirement, please check your account anyway. We’ve randomly selected and credited 500 additional accounts with a free coupon wager of 0.001. You don’t need a balance in your account to use the coupon, it’s just a free bet!
Thanks again for your patience; we’re incredibly lucky to have such loyal and fantastic bettors!
The Nitrogen Sports Team |
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DirectBet- Your rules allow for a 3 hour delay then you can tell us after the game if a bet is good or not. Your program and rules are flawed if you can't tell us within 1 minute if a bet is good. Deposit books tell us immediately.
No Peeps, we tell you immediately, within a few seconds, whether your bet is accepted or rejected. If your bet transfer is received after the event is already over, it will get rejected and refunded. The problem with your bet was that your wallet did not send the transfer right away. It held it for 7 minutes, during which we had no way to tell that you sent in your bet. I showed you multiple times that you received the bet at 17:45, not 17:52. Your post above says that DirectBet can wait until 1 minute before an event concludes to accept or reject even if the bet was placed an hour ago. You don't see the flaw? You are shot taking. |
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