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3301  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: August 09, 2018, 05:58:17 PM
The U.S. has plenty of gun control and these problems are at a tolerable level and most of them dropping.  Those which are not dropping will only get worse as citizens are dis-armed.

What is a tolerable level of gun crime, accidental gun deaths, gun suicides, and police shootings? That seems like a ridiculous statement. How much gun violence is okay in your mind? Is it tolerable until your kid accidentally shoots your wife? Is it tolerable until the cops start shooting at you? Where can you draw the line? I don't think any of those statistics should be tolerable. Everything should be done to get them as close to 0 as possible.


I personally know of no-one who has accidentally shot their wife or husband.  I do know of situations where a person has accidentally hit their wife on the head with a sledge hammer driving fence posts.  Fortunately it did not severely injure her.  I know of a situation where a person ran over his wife while trying to jump-start an automobile.  Unfortunately this did result in a fatality.

Being alive and actually doing things in the real world is a risky thing (but some weirdos actually enjoy it...go figure.)  Sitting on the couch an watching TV all day helps...until you reach about age 50 then it still helps, but mostly it helps the medical/industrial complex.

A skilled engineer will almost never try to get to 'zero.'  We know the trade-offs which occur most of the time, and we balance these in a coherent manner.  A starry-eyed utopian dreamer will always shoot for zero.  More commonly so will a brainwashed retard who listens to their bullshit.  Or more often they are listen to a cold and calculating engineer who is spinning yards of utopian bullshit for the masses but who has an entirely different agenda in mind.

3302  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: August 09, 2018, 05:43:03 PM

A conspirator is somebody who names people who disclose his conspiracy, conspiracy theorists.

A 'conspiracy' is just two or more people having a plan which doesn't benefit everyone and which they keep secret.  To deny that this happens is absurd.

A 'theory' is the post enlightenment method of discovering factual truth.  Nothing to be ashamed of at all.  Just the opposite in fact.

The gluing of these two words together into the string 'conspiracy theory' and demonizing it was demonstrably a psychological construct to help preserve and expand their existing power structure in the U.S..  The tactic targets the weak minded, and it works like a dream!  The trouble is that not everyone is weak minded.  What's a good social engineer to do?  Getting mercury, fluoride, aluminum, lead, etc into the central nervous system of most of the peeps?  Perhaps.

3303  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Alex Jones and Trump on: August 09, 2018, 03:23:55 AM

Alex Jones hides behind the 1st amendment. Thank god private companies are finally taking a stand.

All to often Alex Jones capitulates to the fiat money masters who now pretty much own the U.S. and pusses out when he could legitimately 'hide behind' the 1st amendment and use it for exactly what it was designed for.  Namely to call bullshit our 'leaders' who are not in any way interested in the United States except for how our resources and our people can be milked.  To accuse these people of having 'dual loyalties' is being far to generous.

Even as Jones hedges around Sandy Hook I'll come right out and say it:  The thing was a flat out hoax and the 'parents' are frauds.  They also put themselves in the public eye by taking jobs as lobbyists for the gun-grabbers so they are totally fair game.  This hypothesis makes a vast amount of very suspicious data fall completely into place in a very nice little package.

In fact Jones started out by saying Sandy Hook was NOT a psy-op.  I happened to be paying some attention to him at the time and I tuned in right away to see what he said.  Only after the psy-op became glaringly obvious did he change his tune for a bit.  Mostly just to try to hold on to his base I suspect.  Later he pussed out and tried to waffle about the issue.  Pathetic.  Maybe now that he is 'free' he'll do some real work on the subject..and certain others.  If he does I might even become a supporter again.

3304  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: August 09, 2018, 01:55:24 AM
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And there's many more when you look for them. Get rid of the crooks... like the Democrats that want to disarm us so they can break into our house and rob us without fear.

That's called 'transfer of wealth' from the haves to the have-nots.

When someone breaks into a woman's house just to rape her, it's OK because he was just having a 'sexual emergency.'

The more people die the fewer people will be hurting 'mother Gaia'.  So the orgy of killing which would happen when all non-criminals are disarmed would be a good thing to these creeps.

It's painful for me to admit that I used to prefer to vote Democrat.  I got smart and don't even vote at all in our so-called 'democracy.'  It's a sick joke.  (Ya, I did vote for Trump although I had a pretty strong suspicion that he was just another fraud.  Oh well.)

3305  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: August 09, 2018, 01:47:50 AM

So, you like your mercury, right? It figures.    Cool

Some of these people like mercury for your kids.  Not so much for their own.

Most of them are just brainwashed idiots though.  That's what I initially assume of such an individual absent further evidence.

3306  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: August 09, 2018, 12:21:15 AM

''(like adding mercury) that makes them dangerous.'' Oh really? Fish contains mercury, in fact the mercury found in fish is Methylmercury which is worse than ethylmercury which is what vaccines contain. Thimerosal does not stay in the body a long time so it does not build up and reach harmful levels.
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A person with a least a tiny amount of understanding will know that the gut of any animal has evolved over millions of years to deal successfully with any substance or element in it's natural surroundings.  The gut breaks down food into smaller molecules.  The ones which are valuable to the organism's metabolism are absorbed through the gut lining and the ones which are harmful and/or toxic are expelled without entering the blood stream.

Injections are a whole different an quite novel mechanism.  In this case whatever is in the vaccine is injected directly into the blood stream, or at least directly into the tissues, without any protection from the gut.  No defense mechanisms have evolved to deal with this threat.

Some of the vaccines are so dangerous that if a nurse drops one on the floor and it breaks before being injected directly into the blood stream of an infant, it constitutes by law a toxic spill and the contaminated carpet is supposed to be taken to a special landfill for hazardous wasted.  The multi-dose vials of influenza which they try to shoot pregnant women with continue to contain this thimerosal, and in these kinds of concentrations I believe.  Unless the laws were to embarrassing for the vaccine pushers and they got an exemption.

http://truthstreammedia.com/2013/09/12/govt-mercury-is-a-toxic-hazardous-waste-unless-its-in-your-vaccines/

Edit:  Just watching the associated video and it describes the AMA ethyl/methyl scam that you fell for.

3307  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Alex Jones and Trump on: August 08, 2018, 08:21:51 PM

Jones profits off of selling stereotypes and one-sided arguments. He's been spinning a thread for so long that he's nearly wrapped himself up in it fully. It's good that he's exposing info that mainstream media doesn't usually deal with, but his bias is so strong that he's losing clarity himself. ...


Jones had this 'crazy paranoid conspiracy theory' that the corporate tech giants were going team up and take his InfoWars site down.

What a nut-case and a kook!  It would never happen in America.  Right?  Ooops.

If you've paid attention to Jones' work over the last nearly two decades as I have, you'll find a LOT of the 'crazy conspiracy theories' that the guy has expounded upon have later proven to have been dead on.  If you get your information from The Daily Show you probably will not have noticed this so much.

I first heard of Alex Jones slightly post 9/11 when he was on a rant about how 'they' were going to stage a big terrorist incident and 'will probably blame it on someone like Osama bin-Laden.'  Supposedly the rant occurred prior to 9/11, but I've never been able to verify this 100%.

3308  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Request For Help From P&S Regulars on: August 08, 2018, 07:42:35 PM

Not really on topic, but kind of:

It is common for platforms to be taken over for purposes which are political in nature.  This occurs when the attacker has coordination and resources, and when the target is of high value.  This happened to Wikipedia over a decade ago, and it is now a joke to sophisticated internet users who know the history.

I would hope that the moderator (of specifically the P&S board) would be aware of instances where a particular point of view is of political value to be promoted.  When a spirited discussion is occurring (vs. a bunch of one-liner 'virtue quiz' style posts) and especially when it is starting to go against what the original author might have had in mind and the author seems to lock the thread, I would hope that the moderator would take it upon themselves to unlock it.  The goal would be to avoid having Bitcointalk fall into the same trap that Wikipedia fell victim to to the detriment of the world at large.

FWIW, my post here was 'triggered' by the 'Muslims kill Christians' thread.

3309  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Alex Jones and Trump on: August 08, 2018, 06:56:43 PM

Or don't.  There is a possibility that this 'censorship' is all for show.  I do know that when I visit 'infowars.com' the website bloats my browser with something to the point where I have to kill the whole thing in order to get function back.  Could that something be a scan of my HDD?  I could figure it out if I had the time/interest but so far have not had either.

I give high odds that this recent InfoWars/Jones stuff is just what it seems and that Jones was doing his Zionist gatekeeping just to try to stay in business (and yes, he may have had some contacts in the private (or quasi-private) intel agencies such as was exposed in the StratFor e-mail hack) but Jones is primarily on the side of 'red blooded Americans'.  That is, however, not the only possibility.  I would not bet the security of any device which had sensitive data on one possibility or the other.  Just sayin'

3310  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: August 08, 2018, 06:37:15 PM

I suspect that some vaccines would be safe and useful if they were made simple, and locally. But because the big pharmaceutical houses manufacture them in large quantities, they have to be made in ways that can preserve them. It's the preservation processes (like adding mercury) that makes them dangerous. In addition, many (probably most) of them don't have real testing behind them to see if they are really safe, and really work most of the time.

The big problem might not be the vaccine idea at all. The big problem is probably only the greed of the big pharmaceutical houses.

You barely need to scratch the surface to see how some of the people who have the largest 'controlling interest' in these huge multi-national pharmaceutical corporations are the same people who have the largest interest in 'the population problem.'  They also have the largest footprint in government operations like 'public health' through lobbying/bribery.

If you marry the concepts popular in  the eugenics movement with the problems attributed to vaccination programs reported around the world a lot of mysteries fall right into place.

Just this morning I found out about a recent 'little problem' that the Philippines has been struggling with related to Sanofi's 'Dengvaxia' product and yet another in a long list corrupt politicians that that country has been vexed with.  Seems that the Philippines has seen a string of such problems ever since the U.S. state department put the country on a list of nations who's population levels threatens 'our national security' back in '74.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Study_Memorandum_200

3311  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: August 08, 2018, 06:19:56 PM

Lack of gun control means:

More gun crime
More accidental gun deaths
More gun suicides
More police shootings
Increased likelihood of an armed intruder in your home.

The U.S. has plenty of gun control and these problems are at a tolerable level and most of them dropping.  Those which are not dropping will only get worse as citizens are dis-armed.

The main problems which remain tend to be in localities where there is an unhealthy amount of 'gun control' such as Chicago.  For some reason the gun-grabbers want to take the same laws which demonstrably don't work from these localities and apply them across the nation.  It makes no sense until you understand who is funding the gun-grabbers and the propaganda.  Then it all falls into place.


Proper gun control means:
People with mental health issues do not have access to guns. Criminals do not have easy access to guns. People should not need have to have guns for "protection". (It would imply that criminals have access to guns)

Again, we already have such controls in the U.S. and they are working fine.

Criminals will always have easy access to guns and it will be increasingly easy going forward.  This due to such technology as 3D printed guns.  The biggest problem is that governments flood certain areas with weapons for destabilization operations.  Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc are prime examples.  Mexico as well.  These weapons wash around and are picked up by whoever has need for them.  The problem is very serious in places like Mexico which have huge problems with drug cartels.  Mexico has very strict 'gun control' which makes it very difficult for normal people to defend themselves against criminals (who sometimes wear police uniforms and have a government issued badge.)  In the U.S. where normal people, who always outnumber criminals, have the ability to be somewhat equally matched the problem is nill in most areas.


A perfectly sane person should be able to have recreational use of a gun.  Tank ? Hell yeah - I want one of those.

We have that situation in the U.S..  If you are a responsible person (and rich) and you want to jump through the hoops, you can even have a tank.  There are weapons such as these in the hands of collectors.

3312  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Alex Jones and Trump on: August 07, 2018, 11:32:01 PM
So the tech giants finally did it.  Infowars banned, and this time it doesn't seem to be just Jones bitching about something which didn't seem to have happened.

A common strategy among the Zionist gatekeeper class who play the right-leaning goyim is to get 'banned' for their 'brave' speech.  This builds credibility in the (dull) eyes of the base, but ultimately they are mysteriously un-banned right away.  I'll wait and see what happens with Jones.

If the ban is 'for real' Jones got badly fucked (unless he just wants to retire.)  Firstly, by being such a blatant Zionist shill he lost a bunch of his audience.  I watch him a fair bit during the election because he (and only he) had reporters on the ground, and it's hard to fake such footage.  I also bought a lot of his overpriced potions (which remain unopened) out of appreciation.  Not to long afterwards I couldn't take his Zionist gatekeeping and stopped watching at all.

I figured Jones either went hard-core Zionist gatekeeper to try to preserve his graces in corp/gov, or he really is a Zionist douche with an unusually deep cover.  If he really got hosed, and he is not just the Zionist he pretended to be, he could really go ballistic and come up with some real hard-hitting analysis.  I'm sure that Jones has a LOT of goodies obtained over the years in his grab-bag.

Of course if Jones is 'for real' he'll most likely he will commit suicide tonight by hanging himself and shooting himself twice it the back of the head with a shotgun.  Of course any 'conspiracy theories' about his demise will be considered 'hate speech' and removed from Jewtube.

3313  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: August 07, 2018, 07:20:58 PM

The point I’d like to make about gun control is more concerned with the safety of people who own guns for recreational or self-defense purposes. Gun accidents occur daily. This is due to the ridiculously easy standards we have for purchasing a gun. I think that instead of simply running a background check, that people should be required to receive proper training and safety etiquette before buying a gun. I do not consider a 2 hour course enough, as it is now for a concealed weapon’s permit.

Lots of types of accidents 'occur daily'.  The biggest bang for the buck is probably clamping down on bicycles which are quite unnecessary and dangerous and put the whole family at risk.  At least if the is _really_ the goal of the people behind motivating the gun-grabbers.

As for CCW, whatever we are doing seem to be working pretty well.  CCW permit holders are responsible for the lowest rates of crime as I understand it.  Less than off-duty police officers who are vastly more 'well trained.'

3314  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: August 07, 2018, 06:51:34 PM
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Thanks for this very detailed post. It's annoying when people throw around statements without any facts. I like it when people do their research. I'm not really sure what to take of all this though. So, these three leaders were responsible for the death of millions. For at least some time, the all had very lax gun control laws. So, will more murders happen when there is less gun control? Or will there be less? Or perhaps it's not correlated at all?

Agree that false or incomplete facts are not helpful.  But Snopes is hardly the place to get 'facts' on any of a number of contentious subjects.  'Gun control' is certainly one of these.

Leadership though the ages has had a conundrum.  For one, they want their fighting age men to have proficiency with weapons (esp, long bows) so that their conquests are more successful.  On the other hand, most leadership (rightly) fears their own citizens more than any other threat more often than not.

Hitler knew he was going to be popular and knew he would need riflemen, so gun proficiency was encouraged at an early age among most of the population.  He did do gun confiscation against certain classes of people and, unsurprisingly, these people were later to be sorely wishing they had some self defense and were to suffer greatly for their loss.

The average Chinese could not afford a bowl of rice so no matter what Mao's policy (which doubtless shifted as the revolution progressed), there was never a danger of very many guns.  Indeed, the tactics in China's conflict with the U.S. was driven by an inadequate supply of weapons and consisted of supplying only the front ranks with rifles.  When the front ranks got mowed down, the later ranks picked up the rifles that were dropped by the recently dead.  This lack of weapons did not 'serve the people' very well...though it helped with China's burgeoning demographics problems.

The Soviet Union were communists, and commies do what commies do.  Namely, obtain complete control of everything possible and produce a massive death toll against anything and anyone, real or imagined, which might pose a future threat to their grip on power.

Any thinking analyst should be asking themselves why to hard-core push (world-wide) to propagandize against anything which could be used by populations for self defense.  Why is it so important to the United Nations in particular?  What are the conditions under which people might be so desperate as to pick up arms to defend themselves (which is unthinkable to most Americans at this point), and is the United Nations anticipating such a scenario?  Are they in fact even planning it?  If so, are they waiting patiently for the United States with it's very deep constitutional protections to dis-arm before their plans can proceed forward?

3315  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: August 06, 2018, 10:34:44 PM

Well, in this graph it does look like the diphtheria vaccine had a great positive influence. It in very interesting though to see how little some of the others have made a difference. I don't think the data implies that they are 100% snake oil at all. I'm happy to finally see you acknowledge that you don't think that either. I agree with you that it is unwise to think that "vaccine" must mean that it's great idea to just get it. I think some vaccines are more useful than others. There are some that I'm sure it would be pointless to get. If you work with wild animals often, for example, it would be a very good idea to have a rabies vaccine. Rabies can kill you in 7 days, if not treated.

I'm just fine with vaccines if they are justified based on unbiased information which is completely available to everyone for analysis.  Of course they have to be used only for exactly what they are marketed for and nothing else.

I'm obviously against forced vaccinations, and especially if such programs are forced by pitting one group against another.  I'm telling you, with even a little background in science, just dipping one's toe into the technology exposes that some pretty weird shit is going down.

To my knowledge rabies vaccine use for humans is never done unless one is know or suspected to have been bitten by a rabid animal.  As far as I know it is an expensive and painful procedure involving many shots directly into the abdomen over a period of days.  Maybe there is new technology in use for humans now.  Don't know because I've not researched it.

3316  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Islam kill Christians? on: August 05, 2018, 08:26:16 PM

Well, that's certainly an interesting point of view. A minor clarification, I'm an atheist and in the bitcoin camp. The religious rambling is archaic and of no interest to me.

The more I learn about it, the more I find it hilarious.  Lots of fun.  I have to say, though, that some of the observations and 'prophecies' are amazing.  I personally write it off to human nature not having changed almost at all in the tiny bit of time (10k years or so) that we've been 'civilized.'

If you can laugh at what you believe, there's some hope for you yet.

Although an atheist I am from a 'Christian nation' (like it or not) and my morals and ethics were shaped by some of the elements of that faith and some of the principles attributed to the teachings of Jesus Christ.  Even some of the more silly ones in fact, and I can easily laugh at these even when they apply to myself.  But I have a somewhat sardonic sense of humor, though, so I can laugh at almost anything.

As I learn about the Babylonian Talmud and Zohar I find things which are to me utterly perverse and totally foreign to my sense of right and wrong.  Many are also surprisingly new to me which speaks to their hidden nature of some of these systems of belief.  A can laugh at these as well even while being aware of the devastating consequences that fall out to afflict my fellow goyim.  They are fascinating to me since they have such remarkable powers of explanation when it comes to trying to understand our modern world.

3317  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Islam kill Christians? on: August 05, 2018, 06:26:52 PM

Well, that's certainly an interesting point of view. A minor clarification, I'm an atheist and in the bitcoin camp. The religious rambling is archaic and of no interest to me.

The more I learn about it, the more I find it hilarious.  Lots of fun.  I have to say, though, that some of the observations and 'prophecies' are amazing.  I personally write it off to human nature not having changed almost at all in the tiny bit of time (10k years or so) that we've been 'civilized.'

3318  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: August 05, 2018, 03:31:09 PM

I'm pretty sure that life expectancy had a huge effect on the world population. In 1950, the world population was under 3 billion. Before 1950 the average life expectancy in the world was never over 50. In 1900, it was only 31! This is thanks to modern medicine and the development of vaccines. That is why our population has grown so quickly over the past century. You also have to keep in mind that infant mortality has gone way down.

Nope. It is due to hygiene.  ...

Cool
Is there any chance you can find some proof of that?  ...

https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

Note when, in the decline of all of these diseases, vaccination was actually put into play.  That's pretty strong proof of their actual impact and effectiveness.  Indeed, looking at the data one could logically conclude that they are 100% snake oil.  I don't believe they are, but they are certainly not the miracle they are marketed to be by the medical/industrial complex.



3319  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Islam kill Christians? on: August 05, 2018, 03:12:55 PM
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I have you (Spendulus) pegged as being firmly in the Zionist camp. ....

Imposible, I'm in the bitcoin camp. You're wasting my time with archaic concepts there.

Duh...

I would expect Satan to employ shills to try to embed with us _real_ Bitcoin people.  God made a covenant with us that if we did righteous things (e.g., kept our private keys private) then we would be the apple of his eye so-to-speak and he would favor us with great fortune.  Bitcoin was obviously a gift sent by The Christ before his 2nd coming.  You still have a chance to repent, abandon your wicked Zionist ways, love your Muslim neighbors, etc.  You could jump on board with the team in time for big win!

"Ye [debt based money people] are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." - John 8:44


3320  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kill Syrians because Syrians are killing Syrians... on: August 04, 2018, 07:32:22 PM

Maybe he 'hates our freedoms.'

If the intention of the United States (and its allies) is to bring freedom to the middle-east, then they should first topple the monarchy in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are not only oppressing their own citizens, but they are also funding terrorism all over the world including Syria and other middle-eastern nations.


The suggestion that the United States give two fucks about 'freedom', 'peace', and 'democracy' in the Middle East, or in almost any other part of the world is a sick joke to anyone who is paying even a little bit of attention.  Unless, of course, they only pay attention to certified kosher U.S. media outlets.

This is not to say that any other major power is any better.  The Soviet Union made the U.S. look like angels back in the cold war days, and it's probably one of the main reasons we won the cold war.  Also, we probably were slightly better back in those days than we are now.  Not a lot however.

As an American it really is unfortunate to have to say this stuff, but I'm not going to close my eyes to the reality of the situation.  The U.S. foreign policy does seem to me to be about as close to pure evil as one can get.  Even in Vietnam where we sent psychos over to rape and murder, we also sent decent people who tried to limit the damage.  The My Lai massacre was a good case-in-point.  Now we just flood an area with pure psychos like ISIS.  Thanks Obama (Nobel peace prize winner) and Hillary Clinton.

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