These sorts of posts that tend to be what the paid bumping services make. Just enough to make it look like a genuine question and not just fake spam but still a mostly hollow question that's sole purpose is to keep the thread at the top. Check their other posts and if they're all the same or similar report them and they'll be looked into. Often patterns can be spotted like same email address and sign up dates etc.

I don't think all of them are doing it maliciously though. Maybe that's just the way their keyboard is configured if that's their native language and originally it's genuine users making a post and some other bot is just coming along and copy and pasting that one. Could be wrong but I'm not sure whether people are doing purposely to avoid detection.

Did you send a signed message to cyrus and theymos? Post it here so someone can verify it at least.


The sad thing is this guy has already been busted for huge account and merit farming and he could have dozens to hundreds of other accounts and nothing will be done about it. Banning people is pretty much useless because people just evade their ban on their multitude of alts until the ban expires and losing a few accounts to bans is probably just an occupational hazard for account farmers and sig spammers these days.

The sad thing is this will just be the tip of the Iceberg. There are numerous people farming dozens if not hundred of accounts this way just by posting "nice project" or "waiting for bounty/airdrop" or whatever.

We're also currently being spammed by a new wave of bots that copy a random post and paste it in another random thread. They're pretty easy to spot as the posts are way off topic but there's seemingly hundreds of them. Must have nuked going on 50 already since yesterday.

Report them if they break the rules with the Report to moderator button at the bottom right of every post. Or just PM a moderator about it. Also, you could lock the thread and re-open it as self-moderated and you can remove any posts you like yourself without moderator input.

You can donate bitcoin to the forum at the top left near your profile button or purchase a Copper Membership instead from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

I don't even have a link to my report history on this account for some reason. I do on my main one but there's obviously nothing there since I haven't needed to report anything in years.


They take time to look into. It's best to include the link to the post they copied which makes things much easier. Otherwise staff have to spend time searching for it and they can't always be found easy.

Reserving Klingon translation.

Howeycoin is is my succesfull.

You were complaining before after we banned all the shitposters from spamming marinecoin here. I'd much rather read third world illiteracy as opposed to the generic spam bots that just copy and paste their marinecoin crap. At least they're actually putting some effort in.

But I wouldn't be against removing signatures either. Either that or make it so nobody can have a signature unless you achieve it by getting an insane amount of merit. That way if you don't contribute here you cannot earn. That would probably sort out shitposting here pretty quick.

I just noticed StephenCurry333 hasn't even logged on since February 15, 2018 so not sure when he'll see my message. The prize money goes to second place if he doesn't claim it, right?  . Jokes. I'll put it into the pot for next year if he doesn't but I'm sure he'll claim it at some point. Someone keep an eye out for a site we can use because we won't have long to get something sorted. I'd still like to do the FIFA one as well though.  It's worth doing either way as you can win some prizes from them.

Well it would be an easy scam if people ever got their accounts back. Those that didn't change their passwords since the forum breach is the main reason. Most people probably get them hacked by either downloading malware or logging onto phishing sites.

I'd be happy to continue with the format we've been doing with the Premier League but I'm not sure if there's any websites that'll do it. Only thing I've found so far is the FIFA site which I'd be interested in doing as well or running them both if we can find a site. The FIFA website one is interesting in that you have to make all your predictions before the tournament even starts:


Anyone interested in getting a pool going for that until we find a site for the one we've been doing?

I think he's just complaining that his chosen picks are wrong and subsequently didn't get any points  . I'll wait for a response from Cicciobtc before I send the payments out but can the users in the top five PM me their address for if you haven't done so already.

Anyone have any idea about what to do for the World Cup? It's less than a month away so won't have much time do get something going.

Exactly. Having merit requirements doesn't really work and I'm kinda against it, because people will just start buying merits, meriting their alts or just trading merit between themselves. What happens if you're making excellent posts but you just don't manage to receive any merits, whereas a generic shitposter has his friend merit one of his shitposts or he buys it or promises them he will merit them back and bingo he's getting paid. Campaign managers should just start doing their job properly and only accept quality posters in the first place.

Bots can and do do this and the people who know what they're doing will likely use them because it makes things so much easier, but most of them are not being thorough about the actual quality of posts. If they were  then there wouldn't be so many poor posters getting paid for drivel. As long as they see on the bot that the user made x amount of posts containing x amount of characters then hey, that's all that is required at the end of the day. There's no punishments or repercussions for running a poor campaign so why bother going above and beyond? They might not even check the character count either because there's nobody policing it at the end of the day and nobody is going to complain if they get paid for posts that they know didn't meet the exact criteria.

If someone is receiving merit then immediately giving half of it back to the same person then it's pretty obvious what's going on. Merit giving should ultimately be pretty random and there will be few instances where two completely random users manage to  award it to each other unplanned but when you spot patterns like this where half of it is returned or it's a one for one thing over multiple instances I'm reluctant to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Merit works in some aspects but it only works so far. People with a lot of multiple accounts or "friends/classmates/cousins" still easily abuse it as do those that just trade merit between themselves. Also, a lot of these shit campaigns will gladly pay Juniors and even Newbie members for whatever crap they manage to squeeze out so merit/rank is irrelevant to those that do. This shouldn't be acceptable but if there's no rules or repercussions against it people will continue to do it.

Running signature campaigns off site would be an inevitability, but we had already thought of that and that's why we were going to blacklist their signatures as well if a problem campaign had been warned and then subsequently banned. We even got theymos to agree to it but ultimately it just never happened. It would require direct input and action from theymos every time but for whatever reason he didn't respond to requests for certain campaigns to be blacklisted. There's only so much we can do without his blessing or ultimate action and things like the signature blacklist are useless if he isn't going to enforce it.

Where did hahay complain about it? Did you add up the total points it give you at the end of the round in the box or go through all the individual scores to make sure you'd been allocated the correct points to start with? I PMd Cicciobtc to see how many points he actually finished on but if you didn't get more than him then it won't matter anyway.

What makes you think a shitposter would take any notice of this? As Welsh already said we have a warning for much older threads but I regularly see threads bumped from years ago either with a shitpost or a copy and paste bot and then within days its got dozens of pages of the same sort of nonsense.

Sylon is complete trash as far as campaign managers go because he does nothing at all about the quality of his participants. You are a perfect example. If he was such a great campaign manager he wouldn't accept people like you onto his campaigns, but as long as you make one or two sentences of garbled garbage then that's good enough for him it seems. He was the campaign manager paying the 200 shitposting Russians to make the same post reworded slightly on every account so that tells you all you need to know about what sort of quality checks he does and the quality of posts he will happily pay for. As long as he and every other campaign manager can get away with doing absolutely nothing then like ICOs they will just sit back, do the bare minimum amount of work needed and collect the paycheck month after month.


I don't know either but theymos seems to take a hands off approach for most things and let the community take care of itself. Things like the feedback, trust and merit systems all really police themselves and anything else just requires more manpower thrown at it and that's something theymos probably doesn't have the time or energy to do. Freedom is great in some aspects, but inaction in other cases just leads to abuse en masse and once people realise they can get away with something the problem just gets exponentially worse the longer you leave it.
 

What did you mean you didn't know what to post? This is a discussion forum. People come here to talk about bitcoin. What did you come here for? Just to copy and paste to claim bounties?


It's not required. You posting IDs won't be proof of anything. Are you and your "cousins" both fans of James Bond by any chance? Why don't you start telling the truth instead of lying? Who told you about bitcointalk and to just copy and paste instead of posting original content? This type of abuse is endemic and something tells me people don't just figure it out without a little guidance. I mean, you or someone else must have told your "cousins" all to copy and paste as well (or are your cousins just in fact your alts?).


It's pointless even banning these people at this point. It's like shooting diseased rats swarming out of a drainpipe. You'll take out one or two but the rest evade capture and continue shitting all over the place spreading filth whilst they reproduce uncontrollably (telling their class mates/cousins/brother/mother about their unbelievably great way of making money just by copy and pasting who then sign up to do the same). I mean, these almost certainly won't be the only accounts they have. They could have dozens to hundreds for all we know and an admin is never going to look into them. The last time they did 200 were found. This won't be a one off case. In fact, it will have probably got worse due to copy and paste bots and the fact that admins never look into abuse cases now. Maybe we should just leave the copy and pasting up to DT members to police because it's a waste of time really. At this point I think we should just remove signatures for all ranks except Hero or Legendary and if you can't earn those ranks then you don't get to earn here. Nothing is going to change as long as you can earn money here just by copy and pasting and people just trade merits between their alts or "Cousins" accounts so that's only a minor hindrance to them.