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3301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining software for Android on: October 11, 2017, 09:20:25 AM
Are there any coins that are only mined on cell phones? 

there used to be projects like mangocoinz that portrayed themselfs as cellphone minable
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=902788.0

But if i understood the concept correctly (i never took the time to read the whitepaper tough), it was a (pre?)mined that was distributed to users when they ran the mangocoinz app on their cellphone while exercising. This makes them not cellphone minable, but you sstill needed a cellphone to receive mangocoinz.

As far as i know, there are no pow algo's that are designed to give an edge to cellphone cpu's or gpu's.
3302  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Which hardware wallet 2017? on: October 11, 2017, 08:25:14 AM

Which hardware wallet do you think is the best to get in 2017? (price not important, security and ease of use is)

How do you know the manufacturer hasn't installed something malicious in the hardware wallet?

I saw a unanswered question on youtube saying, what happens if the hardware wallet chip fails can you get you bitcoin back?

I'm happily using both a trezor and a ledger nano S. I gave my ledger HW.1 to my daughter.

Can you be sure the manufacturer did not tamper with the initilisation workflow so they only create pre-generated seed phrases during initialisation? No, there is no 100% guarantee if you use the device out-of-the box and do not check the sourcecode, compile and verify everything yourself . However, trezor's design and firmware is completely open, they both use bitcoin standards, so you can easiliy check wether or not the seed you entered corresponds with the deposit addresses generated by your device. You could even open up your hardware wallet and check if all components are correct, you can verify the firmware,...

Like i said, the only thing they could tamper with, is the initialisation of their wallet... But you could potentially check the sourcecode and compile everything yourself, or roll a dice to create your own seed phrase. So, if they tampered with the procedure, i guess sooner or later somebody would find out and destroy their business.

As a matter of fact, did you check your other wallet's sourcecode and compiled everything yourself on a clean, potentially airgapped system? Did you check all signatures of your wallet before running it? In case you create a paper wallet, did you check the RNG they used???

I don't know many people that use a dice and an airgapped PC to create their private keys, so sooner or later you're going to have to trust somebody (wether it's the community, the reviewers, the manufacturer,...)

If not, your other wallets are less safe than your hardware wallet.
3303  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer - mixing reinvented on: October 11, 2017, 08:10:02 AM
What happens if I open a "Session" and transfer BTC and then the site gets attacked and is not available for a couple of days?

BTC gone?

I guess it'll depend on wether or not you saved the session token. If you have the session token, you should be able to contact chipmixer and ask them to extend your session, and pick it back up when the DDos attack is finished.
Personally, i'd never deposit a single satoshi before saving the session token. In the pre-chipmixer days, when using bitmixer.io, the first thing i did before depositing anything was saving their letter of guarantee, which is the closes equivalent to saving the session token (AFAIK)
3304  Economy / Goods / Re: Lamborghini Huracan Spyder Bitcoin on: October 11, 2017, 07:38:41 AM
Good luck Smiley

I did have one piece of advise tough: bring your asking price in BTC down towards the asking price in FIAT.
On that website you posted, you're asking 250.000€, while on this forum you ask 75BTC (~= 303.500€). Basically, you're asking a 53.500 euro premium for paying in bitcoin... It would make a lot more sense for an interested buyer to exchange their BTC to FIAT and then make you an offer using this FIAT.

Or am i missing something here.
3305  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Difficulty explaination needed on: October 11, 2017, 07:21:17 AM
Hello, although i am in the crypto for 2year+-, i am not so sure about what block difficulty is

Hope i get it right, so block difficulty can be explain as
It start off 2 ppl carry 2 stone which is 2kg, it takes 10minute

Then, after some time, 3 ppl carry 2 stone which is 2kg, it takes around 6.x minute

So 2 weeks later, the amount of stones will become 3 in order to suit the 3 person who carry so the time will be back to 10minute?

Did i get it right?

Therefore, if lets say suddenly, 1 people broke his leg, which means it will now be 2 person carry 3 stone, so time taken to solve will be long?

Thanks

You got it right Smiley
that's actually a pretty good way of explaining difficulty to new members, i might have to point them towards this thread the next time i'm about to explain how difficulty works.

The only slight "mistake" is the fact that you cannot use the term "2 weeks later"... The difficulty doesn't adjust every 2 weeks, it adjusts every 2016 blocks. So in your story, the number of stones gets adjusted every 2016th trip the people make. If there are 2 people that carry 2 stones, it takes them ~10 minutes/trip (sometimes longer, sometimes faster, but the average trip time is ~10 minutes), so 2016 trips are ~2weeks.

If one breaks his leg, and the other person has to carry the two stones (time between blocks ~20minutes), it *might* take 4 weeks before the difficulty gets adjusted to one stone (depending if the other one breaks his legs at the very beginning of the period, or near the end of the 2016 trip period)
3306  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Can I run Elecrtum and Electrum-ltc on the same machine? on: October 10, 2017, 07:13:52 PM
Can I run Elecrtum and Electrum-ltc on the same machine? Note that I'm running Xubuntu. Thanks in advance.

Should be fine. You can even run the same coin side by side as long as you configure the ports differently. That is for normal use and things like mining and in depth coin work might not work right. But, if those work like other coins, and they do not argue about ports, then they should be fine and not argue at all. The Java might be an issue, as those are based on Java, but if it is important, you could even unzip the library and fix clashes based on things like variable names and such.

The OP was asking questions about electrum and electrum-ltc, not about core. Electrum is an SPV wallet, not a full node implementation, it doesn't listen to ports on your local machine, hence you do not have to configure ports differently.
Since electrum is not a full node implementation, it does not receive unconfirmed transactions, nor does it verify new blocks... This also results in the fact you cannot request a block template from an electrum wallet, so you can not use it to mine (sure, you can use an address generated by electrum to fund as coinbase transaction, but that's about it, it is not a mining node in any sense of the word).
Also, electrum is written in python, not in java
3307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is it possible mining coin by laptop on: October 10, 2017, 01:14:06 PM
it could be but there should be additional tools to be able to expedite the process of working such as cpu.the most in priority to do mining is there is network support and there is capital first.

Sorry, what?
I have no idear what you're trying to say...

expedise which process? mining? A common CPU has little or nothing to do with bitcoin mining nowadays. A profitable miner HAS to use an ASIC (a very recent one for that matter). The only cpu that is involved in mining is the cpu of the controller.

the most important factor in being a profitable miner is not network support, it's the power rate. If you pay more than 10 cent/Kwu, you don't even have to think about anything else. It'll be close to impossible to mine profitably. Altough the controller has to fetch the block header, the amount of network traffic for a mining operation is minimal. Sure, you need a network connection, sure a low latency, fast connection might give you fewer stale shares, but it's certainly not the most important factor.
3308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is it possible mining coin by laptop on: October 10, 2017, 01:06:44 PM
I know that there is a high possibility in mining  bitcoin with the use of laptops. But are you sure that you wanted to risk your laptop for mining? So if not, just get what it needs to mine btc without the use of your laptop.

why do u think it's dangerous to use my laptop for mining??

I don't know what this user means exactly, but anyway you put it: the risks outweigh the benefits.
Mining BTC with your laptop will make you less than $0.03 (in BTC) a year without incorporating the power and hardware costs (if you pay for power or hardware, you'll mine at a net loss). Altough the risks aren't that big, they still outweigh the potential income of 3 cents/years (with free power and free hardware)
3309  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: October 10, 2017, 11:23:54 AM
Today is 10.10.2107. I'm writing here on to stake my Bitcoin address 1JRMd6mMWc3da5ePqcZEuDRQVu4CSzgtiC
bitcointalk.org Name:   talktomybitcoin

Quoted!

Hi.  I'm smak9. It's 10/10/2017 today.
This is my Bitcoin address: 1MnZHXEM6acAmyfXF22sE3NRK1YEzSWfz2

quoted that for you Smiley
3310  Other / Meta / Re: Images in signatures on: October 10, 2017, 08:04:31 AM
**snip**
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2252211.0
If images in signatures are impossible, how this will be accomplished?
**snip**

very simple: it won't get accomplished.
If you read on, you'll see the OP is a potential hacked account, he made a hastly sig campaign with to-good-to-be-true rates, and he didn't even realise that putting an image in your sigspace isn't possible in this forum.
3311  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to store BTC during the upcomming forks? on: October 10, 2017, 07:53:15 AM
thanks for the answers.

Never think about storing your bitcoins on exchanges like bittrex, kraken during fork.
You will not get forked coin on any exchange as most of them don't support these coins.
It is better if you can move your bitcoins to online wallets such as blockchain.info or any other wallet that is able to separate your new coins later.

...I have mine stored on electrum wallet at the moment. Would it work that way?


yes,

Electrum allows you to export your private keys, so you can import them into the forked coin's wallet after the fork... Do be carefull about a replay attack!

great. Well I already heard about the replay attack. how can I prevent that ... also I would be interested how the attackers are doing that?

Create a new wallet on each chain, empty out your old wallets on each chain by spending all unspent outputs and funding a new address generated by your new wallet.
Once you're sure that you now have all your funds properly stored on a new wallet whose addresses were not generated before the fork, you can spend your unspent outputs safely on each chain

I actually created a graph to illustrate this the previous time i participated in a discussion about replay protection
3312  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to store BTC during the upcomming forks? on: October 10, 2017, 07:46:36 AM
thanks for the answers.

Never think about storing your bitcoins on exchanges like bittrex, kraken during fork.
You will not get forked coin on any exchange as most of them don't support these coins.
It is better if you can move your bitcoins to online wallets such as blockchain.info or any other wallet that is able to separate your new coins later.

...I have mine stored on electrum wallet at the moment. Would it work that way?


yes,

Electrum allows you to export your private keys, so you can import them into the forked coin's wallet after the fork... Do be carefull about a replay attack!
3313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is it possible mining coin by laptop on: October 10, 2017, 06:54:48 AM
Hello guys,

I have a laptop which Core i7 7th Gen and 8 Gh Ram.
Can i mine any coin with that laptop.
Thanks so much for your advise .

Cheers !

if you mine through your laptop your electricity bill exceeds than your earnings because nowadays Bitcoin blocks are now so complicated that a 100Gh/s ASIC will produce about 0.0426 BTC per day, so taking that into account a laptop would hardly be able to keep up.
And if you still continue to do with your laptop it will damage your laptop due to excess of heating.

We are in the bitcoin mining subforum!
100Gh/s =~ 0.00002237BTC/day, certainly not 0.0426BTC/day.

@OP: please don't mine bitcoin with a laptop.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Non-specialized_hardware_comparison

Best case scenario, you'll get 66.6 Mh/s out of your i7. The predicted income at current diff, block reward and btc price is 0.00000572BTC/year, (that's $0.03 for a full year of mining). After you pay the electric bill, you'll defenatly be mining at a loss.

3314  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to store BTC during the upcomming forks? on: October 10, 2017, 06:45:12 AM
Hi,

I just want to ask where it will be the best to store the BTC during the fork to get the same amount of the new currency.

Would it work with a simple wallet in electrum? Would you prefer to store it on Bittrex/Kraken to be able to get fast transactions?

I really don't want to miss that opportunity so I want to have everything setup the best way possible.

Thanks.

I'd always recommend to hold your BTC in a local wallet. You maximise your possibility's and minimise the risks by being the only one in controll of your private keys.

If you have a small amount of BTC, an encrypted desktop wallet like electrum or core on a clean pc is sufficient. If you hold a lot of BTC, i'd recommand a hardware wallet, an airgapped pc or a paper wallet.

Thanks, so I will get the free fork money even when I store it on an offline wallet? How does it work then?

A wallet does not physically hold any bitcoins. If you own 1 bitcoin, it means there is at least one unspent output with a value of 1 BTC from a transaction that funds an address whose private key you posses, that is included in the blockchain (the decentral ledger stored on all node's disks).
When a hard fork occurs, it just means that the old data in the decentral ledger will exist on both the original BTC's ledger (database) and the fork's ledger. This old data contains the transaction whose unspent output can be spent by the owner of the private key in your wallet. It does not matter if this private key is encryped and stored on a hardware wallet, in a wallet file on your local disk, or bip38 encrypted and printed on a piece of paper. All those private keys can be used to create a signature to spend the unspent outputs stored in both ledgers (the original ledger and the one of the fork).

If you put your funds on an online wallet, they have access to your private keys (and a lot of times, you don't have access to your private keys). This means it's up to the exchange to either do nothing, steal your funds or credit your funds. If you hold your own private keys, it's completely up to you what you'll do.
3315  Other / Meta / Re: Stake your Bitcoin address here on: October 10, 2017, 06:32:30 AM
I want to be secure too, thank you

Dh9h43ETEtFzTDykSazB2sjj4jLpM8J1eT

Quoted, but that doesn't look like a valid bitcoin address tough...
3316  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to store BTC during the upcomming forks? on: October 10, 2017, 06:29:42 AM
Hi,

I just want to ask where it will be the best to store the BTC during the fork to get the same amount of the new currency.

Would it work with a simple wallet in electrum? Would you prefer to store it on Bittrex/Kraken to be able to get fast transactions?

I really don't want to miss that opportunity so I want to have everything setup the best way possible.

Thanks.

I'd always recommend to hold your BTC in a local wallet. You maximise your possibility's and minimise the risks by being the only one in controll of your private keys.

If you have a small amount of BTC, an encrypted desktop wallet like electrum or core on a clean pc is sufficient. If you hold a lot of BTC, i'd recommand a hardware wallet, an airgapped pc or a paper wallet.
3317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining software for Android on: October 10, 2017, 06:02:32 AM
In Reality, There is an app for Bitcoin Mining in Android Phone. But, I never Heard That it is Actually Paying.

Before, I came Through Online Mining And I search For it Many Times,
and At Last, I Didn't found any Reliable,

I also Download Software apps In Playstore, Bitcoin Miners,
Also, Waste of Time.

And, The Worst case is It can Make your Phone Bootloop.


I feel the same old discussion coming up... Yes, there are apps out there that are able to do a sha256d hash of a block header while incrementing a nonce...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.justanothertry.bitcoinminer&hl=en
If you start reading the replys, the first reply actually indicating a hashrate was a guy who go ~6kh/s on a "Snapdragon 801". Other hashrates indicated were ~3kh/s, 2.7 kh/s,...

There are 7.600.000.000 people in the world. If they all had a relatively decent cellphone hashing at 6000 h/s (6kh/s), the total world population's hashrate would be 4.560.000.000.000 h/s

One single antminer S9 hashes at 14.000.000.000.000 hashes/second
4.560.000.000.000 / 14.000.000.000.000 = 0.32

This means that every person in the world should have 3 cellphones mining 24/7 with such an app to have the same hashrate as a single antminer S9

So, in conclusion, are there apps that can mine BTC... Theoretically, yes, there are apps that mine bitcoin. It's also possible to write an excel sheet that mines bitcoin, or you can mine bitcoin using pen and paper... However, in reality, the odds are so small i personally think it's better to say such a thing is impossible. If you tell people there are apps that mine bitcoin, it will only inspire them to run such an app, burn a lot of power, burn their phone, get nothing in return. By saying it's impossible, (hopefully) you don't give them crazy idears.
3318  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Please help on: October 09, 2017, 01:57:57 PM
lectrum frezz the stop

then not responding ?

How many private keys did you try to import at once?
Just don't try to import more than 50 private keys into an electrum wallet at a time... From experience i know that importing +50 private keys at once might cause the import process to lag.
3319  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Please help on: October 09, 2017, 01:42:18 PM
do i need to copy all privte key ? or just one ?
all, you don't know which address was funded... So just import all private keys.
You can use notepad++ in column mode to clean up the dump file, or you can execute a macro to create a clean list of private keys.

Just don't try to import more than 50 private keys into an electrum wallet at a time... From experience i know that importing +50 private keys at once might cause the import process to lag.
3320  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Can I run Elecrtum and Electrum-ltc on the same machine? on: October 09, 2017, 01:41:56 PM
Nice ok! Thank you for the quick response.

no problem Smiley
Just make sure you always write down the seed phrase. Even if everything goes wrong (which i doubt), as long as you have the seed phrase, you can restore your wallet)
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