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3301  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happened with btccharts.com ??? dead for the last 3 days on: July 28, 2013, 08:49:32 AM
Uff, bitcoincharts.com are no longer working, too. Expired domain? Ughh?
The domain has not expired, instead it appears the site has been hacked. Thread about it here.
3302  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Charts down ? on: July 28, 2013, 08:38:47 AM
And there's also the bottom address : @e-l-g.de
Nope. Look closer. It actually links to elg.de. I've just notified ELG Haniel Gruppe about it. If that email address is for real, obviously one of their employees is behind it. I'm not sure how dumb you have to be use your company-provided email to perpetrate a scam, though it wouldn't be the first time that's happened.
3303  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Charts down ? on: July 28, 2013, 07:47:42 AM
I just about to post this. Looks like they've been hacked. Oddly, ernährung-leicht-gemacht.de doesn't even exist and elg.de is a respectable steel recycling business that appears to be completely unrelated. Huh
3304  Other / Off-topic / Re: .5 BOUNTY on: July 28, 2013, 06:20:24 AM
Who does this information belong to and what do want done to this person that you can't do yourself?
3305  Other / Meta / Re: Something odd on: July 28, 2013, 04:34:47 AM
The forum does not use UTF-8, or any other flavour of Unicode. It uses ISO-8859-1, or at least, that's how it serves its pages.
Really? In 2013?
Why not? HTML itself only uses plain ASCII characters, and HTML entities allow any other character to be represented in ASCII text. You could encode a Chinese-Klingon dictionary in ASCII using HTML entities if you really wanted to, though it would take a whopping 8 bytes per character.
3306  Other / Meta / Re: Something odd on: July 28, 2013, 03:49:33 AM
Unicode should be UTF-8. Just a minor correction, as the forum does indeed use Unicode, but cannot encode most Unicode characters.
The forum does not use UTF-8, or any other flavour of Unicode. It uses ISO-8859-1, or at least, that's how it serves its pages. If it actually does store posts in UTF-8 (or any other encoding), it would have to perform the conversion every time a page is requested, which seems rather wasteful.
3307  Other / Meta / Re: Something odd on: July 28, 2013, 03:32:13 AM
Only stuff that conflicts with HTML such as "<" or sometimes JavaScript need to be translated. Normal characters should be no more than one byte each.
The forum doesn't use Unicode. All non-ASCII characters must be converted to the corresponding HTML entity (eg, "©" becomes "&copy;" or "&#169;") in order to be displayed correctly. Without conversion, "©" will actually be displayed as "©". You've probably seen this before on sites that don't perform this conversion correctly.
3308  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SEC busts "pirateat40" aka Trendon Shavers...another one bites the dust on: July 28, 2013, 02:56:05 AM
And my question still hasn't been answered; how many of you bitcoiners still think you are above the law? Do you still think you can circumvent authority with your Internet Monopoly money?
How many of them ever did? I don't recall there ever being that many.

I haven't been making fun of bitcoiners? Really?
Yes, really. You've actually been making fun of a straw man this whole time. We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you. I'm sorry if it took you so long to figure that out.
3309  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Puzzle] Orange glass door. (50 mBTC prize) on: July 27, 2013, 08:25:41 AM
The name was based on the classic "green glass door" riddle. I just used orange because that's the color of BTC. Excellent guess though.
Also, you cannot be seen through the door.
Ah, now I get it. Is it users who have an odd number of vowels in their name who can be seen through the orange glass door?
3310  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Puzzle] Orange glass door. (50 mBTC prize) on: July 27, 2013, 07:52:53 AM
Only users whose avatars are not predominantly blue can be seen through the orange glass door. (Orange glass blocks blue light, after all.)

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3311  Other / Politics & Society / Re: SEC busts "pirateat40" aka Trendon Shavers...another one bites the dust on: July 27, 2013, 07:24:16 AM
On behalf of the Bitcoin community, I hereby present you this award in recognition of your highly valuable and exceptionally speedy service:

3312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do most Bitcoiners seem intelligent? on: July 26, 2013, 02:32:59 PM
4chans /pol or reddit, facebook, twitter, pretty much any big community and/or social network people
These groups are not representative of humanity at large. At least, I hope to Eris they aren't. Undecided
3313  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Canadian Paypal Transactions Regulated by the U.S. Government on: July 26, 2013, 02:19:06 PM
Canadians normally interact with PayPal through the site paypal.ca

When they open the portal they are greeted with "Welcome to PayPal Canada’s most-loved way to pay and get paid".
And David Hasselhoff is Germany's most-loved actor. If Canadians can be bothered to click on "About Us" instead of just assuming that if Canadians love it, it must be Canadian, this is what they'd see:
Quote from: PayPal CA
Company's Founding Date
December 1998

Web Site Address
www.PayPal.ca

Corporate Headquarters
2211 North First Street
San Jose, California 95131

Worldwide Operations
12312 Port Grace Boulevard
La Vista, Nebraska 68128
The fact that a supposedly Canadian company is headquartered in the United States is what's known as a "clue".
3314  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Paypal Transactions Regulated by the U.S. Government: Raising the Issue on: July 26, 2013, 05:51:14 AM
Who knew? Well, I guess everyone who knew that PayPal is based in the United States and as such has to comply with United States law. They might have known. But nobody else could have. It's not like that information is easy to find out, or anything. Roll Eyes
3315  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Tangibilization on: July 26, 2013, 05:31:15 AM
Q1: in the pools you often see someone making 11 (well, litecoins) per day, I'd expect the government to be more than 336 times powerful than this person. Agreed that CPUs are not ideal for that stuff, but field programmable gate arrays specifically hard wired to solve this particular algorithm will do better, even if it was say 7000 coins per day, betweem the major governments -if they feel a threat - that can potentially be 35,000 BTCs per day, give it a year and they have the market. Sure they're contirbuting to the stability of it, but they're a major player then they hold the market.
The mining "difficulty" is automatically adjusted to compensate for increasing (or decreasing) mining power such that one "block" (currently worth BTC25) is mined every 10 minutes on average. If blocks are mined faster than that, the difficulty will increase to slow them down, and vice versa if block are mined slower.

Q6: this is someone stealing fiat not stealing bitcoins. The Police is here to protect the fiat, sure they will make an example that guy.
Wrong. Trendon Shavers did not steal a single cent of fiat. His scam was conducted entirely in bitcoins. He took people's bitcoins, promised to pay them even more bitcoins, and absconded with their bitcoins. Fiat never even entered the picture until he sold his stolen bitcoins.

Hazard: Someone stealing your wallet via screen capture viruses
Likelihood: High
Consequence: High
Initial Risk: high
Risk Reduction measure: generate keyss off the net. Use virtual keyboards in password fiels etc.
Resultant RisK: low

Hazard: Your latop is stolen and it is returned to you with a formatted hard drive.
Likelihood: Low
Consequence High
Initial Risk: Medium
Risk Reduction Measure: subsricve to the Federal Bitcoin Reserve Bank for daily storage of your wallet.
The solution to these problems are cold storage (storing keys offline) and backups, respectively. Anyone with a large amount of bitcoins would be crazy to not do both.
3316  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Tangibilization on: July 26, 2013, 03:09:18 AM
Q1: What prevents the gvmnt from flicking on one their Main Frame computers / data centres and mine the whole lot or the rest of it. There are a number of sites who can do more than 1 peta floating point operations per second.
They'll have to do better than that. The combined computational power of current Bitcoin miners is the equivalent of 3 exaFLOPS.

If this is a "threat" indeed to what they've been controlling us with, or say if at least it's one form of "good" investment for "them", they pay for fuel with fiat money, even with a credit number in an account, so obviously unlike us they don't care about the coin/watt ratio, so why don't they pocket all those coins out htere? and if it's not the US, then why isn't any other sizeable government flicking one or two or three main frames to farm the whole lot. I mean the story about prisoners in china mining coins is not that strong, you just leave the pc on running, you don't need a person physically doing the work?
Of course, both the U.S. government and other governments are free to mine bitcoins if they want (and can justify the expense to their taxpayers). Anyone who contributes their computing power to the network will be rewarded; Bitcoin doesn't discriminate.

Q2: If a currency is one day to become an alternative currency, then shouldn't there be at least so many coins out there as there are people? and at least say 100 coins per person so you can buy and buy, not buy and sell and always remain coinless? what is the point in investing in a currency that has 20 million or 100 million coins only? there will be people left out who will need to create their own currency? isn't it better to have a currency that has say 500-1000 billion coins and that'd become truly worldwide?
Each bitcoin is divisible to 8 decimal places, providing a total of 2 quadrillion currency units (called "satoshis", in honour of Satoshi Nakamoto), enough for everyone on Earth to own about a quarter of a million satoshis each.

Q3: Why would anyone exchane BTC/LTC/xC... for fiat currency on any exchnage. Isn't the true purpose behind the system to create an alternative currency? If somone is in it to pay so much for watts and then get more fiat then they put for the BTCs they generate, then isn't the fiat their ultimate goal in this case? wouldn't the day come where one day they will say oh my God what did we do, we had useful non fiat coins and we exchanged them for fiat that have become worthless? Having an exchange is a good way for the system to breath, allowing people to quit, but it seems to have become a goal, and people buying $$$$$ machines to make $$$$$, not to make a reserve wealth for an alternative currency?
The goal of exchanges is the same as the goal of money itself: to allow people to trade things they have for things they want. When someone sells their coins for fiat, who do think is buying them? Obviously, it's someone else who wants to buy coins for fiat. And that's good, because how else would someone who has only fiat (which, incidentally, is most of the population of the world) acquire their first bitcoins?

Q4: What prevents someone who knows how to write software from creating a mass online job on BOINC or other mass computing farm, label the job as "research to help the poor around the world" or something, and actually what they'll be doing is distributing work and getting the coins back themselves?
The same thing that stops people from writing software to do anything and tricking other people into running it: not much. That's why malware is such a major problem in the world today.

Q5: One  day when the fiat ends people will deliver goods and services in return for coins. This sounds good. What does not sound good is the following: i am running my pc thus burning energy and damaging the environment, and I am getting virtually rich doing it. I am not doing any physical work. Seems the ultimate nerdy way to do nothing and get rich? just leave a machine on? Why isn't earning bitcoins NOW happeneing in a "deserved" way?
Mining does do real work. Not just real work, but necessary work. It is the process of validating the record of all Bitcoin transactions, in such a way as to make fraudulent modification of this record next to impossible. If you were wondering what stops people from simply "copying" a bitcoin and spending it in more than one place (the so-called "double-spending problem"), this is it.

Q6: If someone forges a fiat currency, the government will lock them in jail for the rest of their lives. This is one way to proctect the sheep. Don't tell me there will NOT come the day when they discovered some 14 yo geek who has reverse hacked the thing or did this and that, or they created a quantum machine that can decrypt this SHA256 algorithm in a jiffy, what happens to all the energy you spent then?
SHA256 is used for more than just Bitcoin. It is used in many, many other cryptographic applications including electronic banking, military intelligence, digital forensics, etc. If it were ever "cracked", we're not the only people who'll be in a world of shit. In any case, it's most unlikely to happen overnight. What's far more likely to happen is "weaknesses" will be discovered in the algorithm, which might theoretically lead to it being eventually cracked, say, several years afterwards. In that case, there'll be plenty of time to switch to a new algorithm.

Put it in a totally different way, can you go to a Police and say "someone stole my bitcoins" and that will be an actual offence they can take action on?
Guess you haven't been reading the news lately.
3317  Other / Off-topic / Re: I met a man today seeking $5M in VC for an invention. on: July 24, 2013, 04:00:33 AM
The invention is a device to automatically open a/the garage door when the CO2 reaches a certain level. The door(s) can not be closed unless the CO2 level is safe/normal. Why the fuck didn't any of us think of that?
Because nobody wants to explain to their insurance company how the burglar managed to unlock the door from the inside with nothing more than a length of hose attached to the exhaust of their getaway vehicle? But don't worry, I have a solution. It's a device that allows gases to escape through a tube that is too narrow for a person to fit through. I call it a "ventilation duct". Please give me $5M to develop this idea.
3318  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The bitcoin origin on: July 23, 2013, 01:03:52 AM
Every block contains a special transaction called a "generation" transaction, which is created by the miner and credits the miners address with coins produced out of "thin air". This is the only case where a transaction can credit an address without debiting another by the same amount, and there is a limit to how many coins the miner can give himself this way. That limit is the "block reward" (originally BTC50, currently BTC25, and decreasing by half every 4 years) plus the transaction fees of any other transactions the miner included in his block.

It is perfectly allowable for a block to contain absolutely no transactions other than the generation transaction (even if there are many other transactions waiting to be included), however the miner will not be able to collect any transaction fees in that case. The transaction fees give miners a financial incentive to include as many transactions as they can (assuming those transactions have transaction fees - miners have no incentive to include "free" transactions, which is why free transactions often take a very long time to be included in a block).
3319  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: puzzle; receive btc and make it spend-able only from different address on: July 22, 2013, 11:40:52 AM
My aim is,

1. Use same address every time, a1
2. a1-primary-key can not be used to spend the funds from a1
3. I want to use new key every time to sign future trxns

Basically, a1 is just a dummy / constant address and fund from this address is controlled by another address..
Impossible by definition. As I explained earlier, an address specifies what key(s) can be used to spend coins sent to that address. By definition, if a key cannot be used to spend coins sent to a particular address, then that key is not (and never can be) related to the address in any way. If a particular key is one of the keys associated with an address, then it is (and always will be) able to spend coins sent to that address. That's how the key-address relationship works. It is also not possible for one address to "control" another (whatever that means).

If you want to require that a different key be used for every transaction (and you still haven't explained why you want to do this), you must create a new address for every time you get paid, and tell your payers to only send coins to your newest address and not re-use your old addresses. (This is the recommended method of using Bitcoin, as it allows you to label each address with the reason you expect to be paid there, so you can more easily tell who is paying you for what.)
3320  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: puzzle; receive btc and make it spend-able only from different address on: July 22, 2013, 09:38:18 AM
I just want to use single address forever, and spend using different keys every time.
You can do this with a 1-of-n multisig address, though I can't imagine why you would want to. What exactly do you hope to achieve?

I can specify next-key with the current transaction, every time.
This is how change works normally. Though obviously if you want to spend your change with a different key or set of keys, it has to be sent to a different address. If you send change to the original address, or more coins are subsequently sent to your original address, they can only be spent with the same key you used originally (or any one of the original keys, if it is a 1-of-n address). That's inherent to the very definition of an address: an address specifies which key or keys may be used to spend coins sent to that address. Different key(s) == different address.
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